How dangerous is escorting?

Jamie - you changed your avatar - It looks cool.

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

I've suffered grease burns and theft in fast food, layoffs in survey taking, fights with other employees as a CSR, cuts and bruises on construction sites... hell, my brother just lost an arm on his way to a job site as an electrician. All lines of work carry there own inherent risks...

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Taxi Drivers and Night Shift 7-11 cashiers get robbed all the time, and they are earning more like $ 12 an hour.

The worlds oldest profession doesn't get listed as hazardous occupations: but fishermen, loggers, and construction workers are. Their average salary is less than $50K a year.

A surf did not find any decent data, some sites listed hazards up around fishermen, but a lot of the stats in other areas looked far off. I would guess it is similar to construction workers.

As with any profession, one must look at a lot of factors before deciding if it is for you. Also, as Amber noted - take and be cautious. A number of gg escorts I know do not do appointments after 8 PM to avoid the drunken asshole that calls at midnight.

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Originally Posted by dante

stupid thread

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Thank you kindly for adding to it with substance and class.

Tried it for a short while... Didn't feel the payoff was worth dealing with the stigma. Safety really never seemed to be a concern, as I only did hotels (no incall) and stuck mostly to suburban, business areas.

I also didn't feel I was good at that type of experience...

I don't have to meet you're requirements to post any damn thought I might have whether you think I'm right or not. This whole, "As long as..." garbage is for chumps and you're multisyllabic response reeks of trying too hard. Keep it simple and say more with less. Elegance is so much more impressive than needless complication. More Louis Armstrong, less King Crimson.

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Originally Posted by Kire89

As long as you acknowledge their being your individual experiences that cannot be extrapolated as empirical evidence detailing on intrinstic risks pertinent to the alleged oldest profession in the history of history, it's fine. I like and respect your approach and wish you continued success.

On an unrelated note, there's the occasional occurrence where I wish I was an American, and when visiting this site it's usually when I see your signature picture. It's an ambivalent thought process, because it also reminds me of how simple I am. Asexuality might be a blessing. :)

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

I don't have to meet you're requirements to post any damn thought I might have whether you think I'm right or not. This whole, "As long as..." garbage is for chumps and you're multisyllabic response reeks of trying too hard. Keep it simple and say more with less. Elegance is so much more impressive than needless complication. More Louis Armstrong, less King Crimson.

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You're absolutely right. We should all embrace our simple natures. Anybody who chooses to be educated and let that show through is obviously trying too hard. Why can't he just act ignorant like everyone else? OMG! What a douchebag, that guy! The nerve!

#themorejamieknows

~BB~

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

due to these rules ive set for myself i havent had any real negative experiences.i recently saw one guy who was a bit weird and a little to gruff.my friend was also a bit creeped out by the neighborhood (apparently allot of moving shadows and people creeping about).so while he was respectful he's now on my list of calls i dont accept

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....those sound like some good rules. Stick to them without compromise.

Thought I had this thing on my ignore list. Fixed.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

You're absolutely right. We should all embrace our simple natures. Anybody who chooses to be educated and let that show through is obviously trying too hard. Why can't he just act ignorant like everyone else? OMG! What a douchebag, that guy! The nerve!

#themorejamieknows

~BB~

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Amberskyi, I'm an old and respectable man that wants to see you. I will have to wait until next month when the social security check arrives. Seeing you will mean going without food for a couple of weeks and not paying the electric and telephone bill for a month, but I think the sacrifice is worth it.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

while of course there are risks involved there are things that you can do to minimize the chances of them happening.my last scare was about a year ago (before that it had been quite awhile in which i had any incidents).i had a "client" (in parenthesis cause he had no intentions of paying) pull a knife out on me.i was always a very careful girl who can read people pretty well.i never really had a high incident count but clearly a few tweaks on how i operate could still be made.here are some of the additional changes that i put into affect a year ago:
-i now try to avoid doing incalls out of hotels that have exterior rooms (rooms in which you go straight from the parking lot to the room without having to pass through a lobby). i now feel overly exposed and to accessible in such buildings.
-i dont see clients after midnight
-i only see young clients during the daylight hours
-i dont accept appointments from guys who use an excessive amount of slang.infact i hang up on quite allot of guys because of this.when they start off the conversation with "whats good ma?" the dial tone immediately follows lol
-i no longer do half hour appointments.if you cant afford an hour than chances are your not the type of clientele i want.
-i try to have a friend around while working.so when im doing outcalls my friend waits in the lobby or in their car in the parking lot.or when im doing outcalls my friend waits outside from a discreet but close enough distance.
-i also keep a 'dont pick up' list in my phone.if a client flakes or is weird i put them on said list and no longer accept their phone calls.


due to these rules ive set for myself i havent had any real negative experiences.i recently saw one guy who was a bit weird and a little to gruff.my friend was also a bit creeped out by the neighborhood (apparently allot of moving shadows and people creeping about).so while he was respectful he's now on my list of calls i dont accept

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People should trust their instincts. Your instincts may be overreactive, but they NEVER lead you into trouble.

If something doesn't feel right there's no point in doing it IMO.

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Originally Posted by littletwink

Cam is easier, cheaper, and a lot safer. I would start there before I even thought about escorting.

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r u comparing cams with escorting? u cannot be serious

How much can a beginning escort make? $50/hr?

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

Thought I had this thing on my ignore list. Fixed.

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Man, what an ugly thing to say! If you're actually a nice person you do an amazing job of concealing it with a cretinous veil of hateful bile...

You might as well add me to your list too because I'm not going to buy your pornography or donate money when you beg for it.

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Originally Posted by Protoman2050@gmail.com

How much can a beginning escort make? $50/hr?

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in Argentina they suck cocks on the street for $5 dollars

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Originally Posted by Nikka

in Argentina they suck cocks on the street for $5 dollars

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I'm in California, and I'd like to be a bit more high-class. A proper escort, not a streetwalker.

oh, if you wanna be high class that's even easier. just advertise on craigslist and backpage and charge $50 or more for anything

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Originally Posted by bluesoul

oh, if you wanna be high class that's even easier. just advertise on craigslist and backpage and charge $50 or more for anything

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Or, how 'bout I just advertise on Eros...I have the money to afford an ad.

And be very careful about what clients I select, and ask them to provide references, so I don't pick up a gangster or axe murderer.

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Originally Posted by Protoman2050@gmail.com

ask them to provide references

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References? They're paying you for sex; you're not hiring them.

I think you'd put off a lot of potential first timers if you ask them to include other people in their secret sex habits with hookers...

If your going to be a high end escort in the US used only Eros along with TER and your own website where it describes your services, rates, rules and promote that site also. None of this BP bullshit, sticky smelling mofos with onion breath. Never post on BP or cheap sites to advertise because high end clients will google you number to see info and you don't want BP ads to pop up that just makes you look cheap and low.

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

I don't have to meet you're requirements to post any damn thought I might have whether you think I'm right or not. This whole, "As long as..." garbage is for chumps and you're multisyllabic response reeks of trying too hard. Keep it simple and say more with less. Elegance is so much more impressive than needless complication. More Louis Armstrong, less King Crimson.

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I'm not asking you to meet any requirements, and there is absolutely zero need to feel like I'm attacking you. I was trying to contribute with Norwegian experiences and thoughts, and my vocabulary might be archaic, my lack of appropriate idioms quite possibly glaring along with a transparent non-native English background, but I'm trying to improve through posting here. Thanks so much for your invaluable and much too kind feedback.

Here's one possible improvement for future postings of yours, since we are discussing language: your is the possessive case of you, while you're is the contraction of you are.

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Originally Posted by Kire89

I was trying to contribute with Norwegian experiences and thoughts, and my vocabulary might be archaic, my lack of appropriate idioms quite possibly glaring along with a transparent non-native English background, but I'm trying to improve through posting here. Thanks so much for your invaluable and much too kind feedback.

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I wouldn't listen to anything people say on here! There is nothing wrong with your English. Just because some semi-illiterate hoodlum hookers and 'thug life' porn enthusiasts have a problem with the way you communicate does not mean you need to change anything.

They need to change. Why do people think it's cool to sound stupid? Present yourself how you feel comfortable, and just ignore everyone else if they take issue with it!

James T tried it once and now look at him ... sorry ... her!

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Originally Posted by jamiethewild

If your going to be a high end escort in the US used only Eros along with TER and your own website where it describes your services, rates, rules and promote that site also. None of this BP bullshit, sticky smelling mofos with onion breath. Never post on BP or cheap sites to advertise because high end clients will google you number to see info and you don't want BP ads to pop up that just makes you look cheap and low.

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Yeah, I'm never using backpage or craigslist. I'm not an idiot!

I suppose seeing 1-2 clients after work for 1-2 hours each for $100/hr, plus one GFE overnight client on the weekend for $3000, doing that every week I could likely make $260,000/year extra.

I bet I'm over-estimating figures a bit!

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Originally Posted by loveboof

References? They're paying you for sex; you're not hiring them.

I think you'd put off a lot of potential first timers if you ask them to include other people in their secret sex habits with hookers...

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I meant: references as in tell me where you work so I can actually confirm you're a legit person. "Hi, does Bob work here? He does? Ok, bye."

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Originally Posted by Protoman2050@gmail.com

I meant: references as in tell me where you work so I can actually confirm you're a legit person. "Hi, does Bob work here? He does? Ok, bye."

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Well it seems to me that discretion is the most important factor in this line of work!

What if Bob doesn't want you to call up his work and potentially tell all his colleagues that he pays for sex? Remember that he doesn't know you either...

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Originally Posted by loveboof

Well it seems to me that discretion is the most important factor in this line of work!

What if Bob doesn't want you to call up his work and potentially tell all his colleagues that he pays for sex? Remember that he doesn't know you either...

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No need to tell the company my name, why I'm calling, or anything...

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Originally Posted by Protoman2050@gmail.com

No need to tell the company my name, why I'm calling, or anything...

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I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a potential client. Do other high class escorts ask for references?

As far as Bob is concerned, once he gives you his details you can do whatever you want with them! All he knows about you is that you're an escort. You could blackmail him, or sell on his details.. any number of things!

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Originally Posted by loveboof

I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a potential client. Do other high class escorts ask for references?

As far as Bob is concerned, once he gives you his details you can do whatever you want with them! All he knows about you is that you're an escort. You could blackmail him, or sell on his details.. any number of things!

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I've seen it on some ads, like this one: http://www.eros-la.com/sections/los_...s_for_tvts.htm

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Originally Posted by loveboof

References? They're paying you for sex; you're not hiring them.

I think you'd put off a lot of potential first timers if you ask them to include other people in their secret sex habits with hookers...

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Quite a few high end ggs do this.by references they usually mean other girls or agencies you have used

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

Quite a few high end ggs do this.by references they usually mean other girls or agencies you have used

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It makes more sense if you mean agencies or other escorts, but that could still alienate real first timers...

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

Quite a few high end ggs do this.by references they usually mean other girls or agencies you have used

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That's actually what I meant...just confused myself when I was writing because I was doing something else.

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Originally Posted by loveboof

It makes more sense if you mean agencies or other escorts, but that could still alienate real first timers...

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That's kinda the whole point.the objective of a filtration process is that the girl isn't as accessible.its cuts down on the risks of seeing a heavy traffic of random guys.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

That's kinda the whole point.the objective of a filtration process is that the girl isn't as accessible.its cuts down on the risks of seeing a heavy traffic of random guys.

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If you want to purposefully reduce your target market for the appearance of exclusivity then cool, but I would question the validity of a business model which attempted this strategy in any other capacity - and so feel the need to question it here too. Usually you would just filter out the heavy traffic by pricing yourself out of their range...

Also it is far from fool proof. What is the benefit to other escorts in giving out references on clients to their rivals? You're not unionised are you? lol

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Originally Posted by loveboof

If you want to purposefully reduce your target market for the appearance of exclusivity then cool, but I would question the validity of a business model which attempted this strategy in any other capacity - and so feel the need to question it here too. Usually you would just filter out the heavy traffic by pricing yourself out of their range...

Also it is far from fool proof. What is the benefit to other escorts in giving out references on clients to their rivals? You're not unionised are you? lol

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Nothing in life is fool proof, its about minimizing as much risk as possible.also your not really reducing your target market, you're refining it.
For example my larger market as a ts escort is obviously going to be men who are into or curious about ts woman.more specifically tho i want to target business professionals who have a nice bit of disposable income.even more specifically i prefer a business professional of a certain "mind set".so i go about that by not only what i charge but also by my screening process.

I don't want to derail this thread any more. It's your business - do what you want.

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Originally Posted by loveboof

Man, what an ugly thing to say! If you're actually a nice person you do an amazing job of concealing it with a cretinous veil of hateful bile...

You might as well add me to your list too because I'm not going to buy your pornography or donate money when you beg for it.

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Hey Loveboof,
Anyone would think she nicked your Rolex!
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Originally Posted by loveboof

I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a potential client. Do other high class escorts ask for references?

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In the usa yes they do.
Coz it's illegal and escorts need verification that a client is not a cop on a sting / setup.
Verification is the norm over there. From what I've read.

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Originally Posted by Tyler___Durden

In the usa yes they do.
Coz it's illegal and escorts need verification that a client is not a cop on a sting / setup.
Verification is the norm over there. From what I've read.

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But, if you take pics, it's not considered prostitution, it's considered pornography, and then you just need them to sign USC 2257 forms. Or something like that.

Er ok.
I'm a UK Provider who hasn't toured to the usa.
So my usa escort laws knowledge is second-hand.

I see you Amberskyi!

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

Nothing in life is fool proof, its about minimizing as much risk as possible.also your not really reducing your target market, you're refining it.
For example my larger market as a ts escort is obviously going to be men who are into or curious about ts woman.more specifically tho i want to target business professionals who have a nice bit of disposable income.even more specifically i prefer a business professional of a certain "mind set".so i go about that by not only what i charge but also by my screening process.

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Originally Posted by Tyler___Durden

Hey Loveboof,
Anyone would think she nicked your Rolex!
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Lol. Jamie Thief!!!!!!

How's it all going Tyler? :)