Why do most TS admirer/chasers wouldnt tell they had sex with a guy before?

That's rich, prostitutes lecturing their clients about morality and truth vs lies.
You chose to sell your ass for money, get over it, dont blame your clients, they probably paid for your transition.
Stop trying to masquerade what you do for something else. We pay good money for an hour or two of sex that's it, we re not hcoming for the conversation or to explore the inner depth of our sexuality with you. If you were so perceptive you d be doing another job. Do your job and shut up or dont, but stop being so damn annoying.

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Originally Posted by allurstouse

I just spit coffee out my nose I was laughing so hard I missed this yesterday. 8 words to completely and totally eviscerate. You have a gift. He wont get an erection for a month

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Yes , merely saying "right back at you" instead of coming up with an intelligent reply is a "gift". I m sure you re dreaming right now tha she s going to notice you, you re probably going to have some wet dreams...kiss-ass...

Maybe all Alyssas clients are gays since they think she looks a bit manly so reminds them of their boyfriends, who knows.

^I personally think that Alyssa is one the the sweetest and prettiest girls on here.

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Originally Posted by Nikka

they r all faggots and married with children

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Niikka, why don't you do any videos of you getting fucked by a guy or tgirl? I know you take really big cock off of camera.

I find that a lot of guys I been with have been with guys...I would never twist their balls about it. it can be very personal to some people in that situation, maybe they prefer to present themselves in whatever they think is appropriate considering the situation. I happen to think that bi- and carefree guys are the best lover. if it feels good it feels good

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Originally Posted by MDM23

Maybe all Alyssas clients are gays since they think she looks a bit manly so reminds them of their boyfriends, who knows.

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My point exactly! The irony seems to be lost on her, and nikka and others. If they re gay, they like sleeping with men, if they sleep with you, that probably means you're a guy!

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

Yes , merely saying "right back at you" instead of coming up with an intelligent reply is a "gift". I m sure you re dreaming right now tha she s going to notice you, you re probably going to have some wet dreams...kiss-ass...

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i dont waste intelligent replies on unintelligent comments.
its seems like alot of the guys on this forum love to make rude,abrasive comments and when the girls reply in turn they become infuriated,calling foul and other such nonsense.

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

That's rich, prostitutes lecturing their clients about morality and truth vs lies.
You chose to sell your ass for money, get over it, dont blame your clients, they probably paid for your transition.
Stop trying to masquerade what you do for something else. We pay good money for an hour or two of sex that's it, we re not hcoming for the conversation or to explore the inner depth of our sexuality with you. If you were so perceptive you d be doing another job. Do your job and shut up or dont, but stop being so damn annoying.

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You're directing this at me? What does lying and prostitution have to do with one another? Because I escorted, I'm somehow dishonest? LOL How so? If anthing, escorts are more up front and we don't judge you, so you don't have to lie. I understand why men lie. I never said judged them for it . Don't be so resentful. If you have a guilty conscience about lying, you don't have any reason to point your finger at me, you bitter weirdo.

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

That's rich, prostitutes lecturing their clients about morality and truth vs lies.
You chose to sell your ass for money, get over it, dont blame your clients, they probably paid for your transition.
Stop trying to masquerade what you do for something else. We pay good money for an hour or two of sex that's it, we re not hcoming for the conversation or to explore the inner depth of our sexuality with you. If you were so perceptive you d be doing another job. Do your job and shut up or dont, but stop being so damn annoying.

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the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

woah it's yasmin
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Originally Posted by Prospero

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

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while im not saying being into me makes anyone gay but knowing im a ts (espically that im post-op) makes any man mildly bi-sexual.the more cock oriented the guy is the more bi-sexual he is.i have a penis theres no way around that.i have to be honest enough with myself and know that while i am a woman im not a female.i was born a man have male sex organs that i use for sexual pleasure.
if a guy was truly straight he would want nothing to do with me because of my lack of a vagina.
my boyfriend identifies with being bi-sexual even tho he's not attracted to males...its interesting that he's the first truly completely open and accepting relationship i've ever had.i wonder if that has something to do with his acceptance of who he is and his sexuality..hmmm.ive dated two completely straight identifying men before him and both kept me a secret in different ways and had other various hang ups.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

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Look I completely agree with this. The topic started with a provider showing us her inquisitive and mildly annoying side. I might have been a bit direct in my comments but I think most people would agree. If this topic had been on guy confusing paid sex for romance trust me I would have said the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

You're directing this at me? What does lying and prostitution have to do with one another? Because I escorted, I'm somehow dishonest? LOL How so? If anthing, escorts are more up front and we don't judge you, so you don't have to lie. I understand why men lie. I never said judged them for it . Don't be so resentful. If you have a guilty conscience about lying, you don't have any reason to point your finger at me, you bitter weirdo.

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I wasnt talking to you..nevermind

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

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Yup....it's self perpetuating: it starts with parents , then peers ...with every lie we dig a deeper hole, making it that much harder to ever tell the truth. Fortunately, at some point, sometimes we reach an age where we don't give a fuck anymore...the obvious down side being: being old.

The only thing I might change in your statement is the word "men". "People" lie about sex. Women are pressured to lie also...just that the lies are geared slightly different.

As far as the OP is concerned: I'm not sure that there really is a correlation between liking TS and bisexuality...or simply liking men. I'm sure that there are plenty of men who may be secretly bisexual (or some "gray scale" version of it)..who have no real interest in TS. A GG escort might ask the same question but receive fewer honest answers, because male clients would view a TS as being more understanding about it than a GG.




:D...what's really funny is: how many serious replies Alyssa still gets on these threads (that she has a history of posting)...myself included...lol.

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

Look I completely agree with this. The topic started with a provider showing us her inquisitive and mildly annoying side. I might have been a bit direct in my comments but I think most people would agree. If this topic had been on guy confusing paid sex for romance trust me I would have said the same thing.

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see...your the type of client i prefer...respect and discretion both ways

Maybe some of the guys are lying just because they think they'll have a better experience with you. That you will be more 'thrilled' to be his first. Although you say you find it sexier if the reverse were true.

If he knew what turned you on more, even if it was his first time, he might lie about that and say he's been in all male gangbangs and loves being on the receiving end of a bukkake party. Just to get you turned on.

Maybe it's part of his 'fantasy' to have the escort be 'his first one'. And your client is the one that's paying for the fantasy.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

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Such truthfull analyses of men.

On this board Ive talked to a few guys that more or less expect I would be somehow like them. Hiding, feeling embassed... being secretive....like i did not get over that.
The only way to survive I think is complete acceptence of yourself and the only way to live a happy life is to accept and persue what you really want..

There is no time for bullshit like that, I dont have hetersosexual lifestyle for an aliby.
I am completely naked. And that is my strength. Because most people are very fearfull and afraid of what others might think and say.

I cant live my life if that was the first thing that was on my mind each morning.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

see...your the type of client i prefer...respect and discretion both ways

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Well hit me up when you're in london darling, might break my "no more escorts" vow for you

I know that I may be in the minority here with a few the girls on this topic, especially after hearing what Amber, Kelly, and even Ashley believe. And I do understand what they're saying but I think they're wrong. I don't think having cocks in your ass or mouth necessarily makes you gay. It's whose cock is in your mouth or ass that makes you gay or bi. A man can kiss a man or a woman on the lips. Both have lips. But if he wants to kiss a woman, that's a heterosexual urge. If he wants to kiss a man, that's a gay urge. If you want to discuss this stuff, you need to be accurate. Anal and oral pleasure is not sexual attraction. If a man wants to fuck both men and women, that's bi. Wanting to fuck a M2F TS is not bi and it is not gay. Gay men don't want to fuck trannies. Straight men do, but they also want something in their ass or mouth to go along with the experience.

Listen. If I was gay, and having sex with me was gay, I wouldn't give a fuck at all. I'd say so. I'd say that I'm a queer for being a M2F TS and you're a queer for letting me fuck you. I'd have no issue with spelling that out if it was a fact. But it's not.

As for men being dishonest, I pity them to some degree. But there comes a time in everyone's life that you at least have to be honest with yourself. Once you do that, you can be honest with anyone on your own terms and feel ok about it. If you choose not to, you may have a good reason, like survival in world full of predatory bigots. So ok. Then maybe you need to be discreet and maintain your privacy. But beyond a certain point, what kind of life are you living? And to be so fucked up that you feel ashamed to tell an escort what you're into? lol C'mon. You're already paying to suck our dicks and let us fuck you. Do you think learning about you having sex with a straight up dude is going to blow our minds? Get fucking real. lol

I put nothing past anyone. I've had all types of clients. Some were truly fucked up people who have done extremely fucked up things. There are lots of skeletons in those closets. Nothing shocks me.

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

I wasnt talking to you..nevermind

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Then my apologies.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Then my apologies.

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Accepted.

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Originally Posted by fred41

Yup....it's self perpetuating: it starts with parents , then peers ...with every lie we dig a deeper hole, making it that much harder to ever tell the truth. Fortunately, at some point, sometimes we reach an age where we don't give a fuck anymore...the obvious down side being: being old.

The only thing I might change in your statement is the word "men". "People" lie about sex. Women are pressured to lie also...just that the lies are geared slightly different.

As far as the OP is concerned: I'm not sure that there really is a correlation between liking TS and bisexuality...or simply liking men. I'm sure that there are plenty of men who may be secretly bisexual (or some "gray scale" version of it)..who have no real interest in TS. A GG escort might ask the same question but receive fewer honest answers, because male clients would view a TS as being more understanding about it than a GG.




:D...what's really funny is: how many serious replies Alyssa still gets on these threads (that she has a history of posting)...myself included...lol.

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I know. I see people going through a mid-life crisis and it's often pretty sad. I think to myself, "Wow. You had all those years to be a complete fuck up. Why did you waste them?" lol

I really have no regrets. I didn't think I'd make it past 21 when I was a kid. I always seemed different compared to other boys, and I was horrible at hiding it. They let me know about it too. That's why I started running away when I was 13. Instead of adapting to being a straight boy, I just abandoned the whole concept. My dad asked me if I was gay when I was in the 7th grade. I told him that I wasn't sure and that I'd get back to him on it. That shocked and pissed him off all at the same time. lol By my mid teens my parents told me that it was "ok if I was a gay". lol I told them that I thought it was more complicated than that. ;-) lol I put my parents through it. lol

And I agree that women can be dishonest, but not like men. Woemen can get away with being discreet about sex. It's expected of them in fact. But a man's sexuality and manhood are always potentially in question. Thank god I rarely had to bear that cross beyond my mid teens. Everyone just assumed I had no manhood. lol

Nicole I'm happy to see your crazy shit talking ass is on here again. i stopped coming here for awhile when you took a haitis.

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

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Sometimes escort get fixated on client too.

Delocated: Russian Wedding - YouTube

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Originally Posted by baller1987

Nicole I'm happy to see your crazy shit talking ass is on here again. i stopped coming here for awhile when you took a haitis.

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"You like me!" - YouTube

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Originally Posted by amberskyi

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

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Amber I am hoping you did not write this sober. Not only was it rude, but it was ignorant on so many levels.

I do like your new pic that show your curves and other impressive assets...much better than your last one.

Perhaps you should take some classes in sales or marketing. Just an FYI. Post sales evaulation/monitoring is an valuble tool for future sales an marketing and also keeping you buyer interested in the merchandise. Also it can help in so many ways to improve your current product, making it better, brighter, bolder and mackier.

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Originally Posted by buckjohnson

Amber I am hoping you did not write this sober. Not only was it rude, but it was ignorant on so many levels.

I do like your new pic that show your curves and other impressive assets...much better than your last one.

Perhaps you should take some classes in sales or marketing. Just an FYI. Post sales evaulation/monitoring is an valuble tool for future sales an marketing and also keeping you buyer interested in the merchandise. Also it can help in so many ways to improve your current product, making it better, brighter, bolder and mackier.

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yea i did write it sober...it was a bit angrier than i would normally put it because it was in response to someone i thought was an asshole (he seems alright now ;) ). however the general sentiment remains the same.
clients need to be a lot more aware of the boundaries of an escort/client relationship.i understand for a lot of guys this is their sole way of meeting a ts but i have a personal private life too that needs to be respected.im not available for dating on a social/romantic level,unless of course he is paying for that fantasy.this is for my mental,emotional and physical health.
im not interested in shooting the breeze randomly unless your going to make an appointment.im a busy girl,between working and my life i dont really have a lot of time to talk about anything or nothing.also im not available to my clients on a personal/social level for my mental,emotional and physical health also.i dont mind texts messages here and there tho just to say hey,see if im in town or etc.
lastly i get questioned alot as to whether i really enjoyed the session or was it all just a fantasy.it would be a bit naive for you to think that im constantly horny and attracted to the men i see.i never answer this question truthfully because its my job as an provider to make you feel like the fantasy was real.im a very good provider (i know this by my high number of repeats and regulars).im always physically aroused (hard) with each client because that is part of the fantasy with seeing a ts.this isnt because im actually attracted or sexually excited all the time but because ive learned how to get my self sexually aroused by playing out my own fantasies in my head while im with a client (the same way a lot of guys fantasize about a different girl than the one their actually fucking).
just appreciate the experience for what it is and nothing more.that way both parties are on the same page and no one walks away with hurt feelings or misunderstandings.

p.s thanks for the avatar pic compliment

I knew you were on a different vibe when you posted. I have drunk posted many times and it just reminded me of some of my postings.

Boundaries is difficult set in a realtionship based on fantasies. Hell, I have problems with boundaries in my real world, as everyone from family to male and female friends, co workers, New York Knicks fans, Dino and other cats on this board, etc... More power to you if you can be successful in maintaining boundaries in a world based on fantasies.

Also amazing that you can get an erection no matter what the situation you are in. I can't get an erection all the time with woman I am interested in. Also I cannot get an erection w/o being turned on by my partner. So again, more power to you, no wonder you are so successful.

One day, your booty will be my duty as I am impressed with it so much. Hope I did not cross any boundries, and if I did, i apologize.

Finally, you seem so intuitive and smart. You will be successful in any field you choose

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I knew you were on a different vibe when you posted. I have drunk posted many times and it just reminded me of some of my postings.

Boundaries is difficult set in a realtionship based on fantasies. Hell, I have problems with boundaries in my real world, as everyone from family to male and female friends, co workers, New York Knicks fans, Dino and other cats on this board, etc... More power to you if you can be successful in maintaining boundaries in a world based on fantasies.

Also amazing that you can get an erection no matter what the situation you are in. I can't get an erection all the time with woman I am interested in. Also I cannot get an erection w/o being turned on by my partner. So again, more power to you, no wonder you are so successful.

One day, your booty will be my duty as I am impressed with it so much. Hope I did not cross any boundries, and if I did, i apologize.

Finally, you seem so intuitive and smart. You will be successful in any field you choose

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Yeah, Amber's cool.

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Originally Posted by YasminLee

I find that a lot of guys I been with have been with guys...I would never twist their balls about it. it can be very personal to some people in that situation, maybe they prefer to present themselves in whatever they think is appropriate considering the situation. I happen to think that bi- and carefree guys are the best lover. if it feels good it feels good

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Really???
So you have been with no straight men that are better???:confused:

OMG! sorry i almost forgot about this thread been busy fucking guys lol

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

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Ok this is the best answer so far :cheers:

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Originally Posted by londonpirate

My point exactly! The irony seems to be lost on her, and nikka and others. If they re gay, they like sleeping with men, if they sleep with you, that probably means you're a guy!

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You really didnt like the question. it's clear from the not so subtle attacks. I think it's because you don't like the answer. Oh and I could give a fuck ir anyone "notices" me. I noticed you and think you sleep with men and lie about it. otherwise why would the question have so much energy?

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Originally Posted by allurstouse

You really didnt like the question. it's clear from the not so subtle attacks. I think it's because you don't like the answer. Oh and I could give a fuck ir anyone "notices" me. I noticed you and think you sleep with men and lie about it. otherwise why would the question have so much energy?

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hihihi!

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