My ultimate fantasy is to become a vampire, and live forever. The most romantic thing sometimes is tragedy in love, If i distance myself from my emotions then I would not have the urge to want to be with someone, Just live life to eat them.
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My ultimate fantasy is to become a vampire, and live forever. The most romantic thing sometimes is tragedy in love, If i distance myself from my emotions then I would not have the urge to want to be with someone, Just live life to eat them.
Good oneQuote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Good thread Kel
You're still a goof ball.
Kelly is dead on, for me it doesn't matter whether your tg or gg (whether you want keep your penis or not), but I find with tg's its way more difficult. Sometimes its so much of hassle, because they want a pure guy. I still don't know why so many hook up with the bad boys anyway. For me, when I find someone who is willing to be a relationship for the right reasons then it will be worth the wait.
Your question is interesting. I would say that both tgirls and man have to be seen here as an individual. Not all men are the same and not all tgirls or GGs are the same. We are all individuals and in everyones nature is to seek and find his/her soulmate, the special one to complete are souls into one unity. Of course sex is important part of life, but it is not the whole life and in partnership it is important to be compatible also in other parts of life, not only in bed.
I understand, that for tgirls is founding her soulmate more difficult than for GG, because of lot of reasons, but I still think everyone could find that individual, who will be the right mate.
For me, I could say I steal search for my soulmate and hope to find her, doesn't matter if she is GG or Tgirl, but that she is the right individual to complete our halfs into one unity.
it's an occupational hazard of hooking. also, it seems a majority of transsexuals are more concerned with being and treated as women and forget about just being people.Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeisfiction
This is exactly what I am talking about! I am so glad you shared this and came out respectfully!Quote:
Originally Posted by KelticForce1349
I like when we all can have intellectual conversations on here and not bash one another!
I so can feel you on this and have seen this time and time again with my ts girlfriends. Which is why most of my girlfriends are female. Transsexuals to me are just to superficial and have so many inside hatred it's hard to be friends with them. I've only met a handful that are sane and cool. I wont mention names so it doesn't cast anyone out.
But I have always felt transsexuals are the major cause of a lot of their issues! As well as deaths..that may seem unfeeling of me...but it's the truth.
I like the chase but not the reward :(
Thank you for coming forward sweetheart! I agree transsexual women favor the prince charming and damsel in distress act way too much..Quote:
Originally Posted by NrthAveBeach09
It's like a delusion upon a delusion upon a delusion...
They are so unhappy, because they are honestly not happy with themselves.
I think too many just use men as a catalyst to bring their inner-rage on.
I loved that last statement...."forget about just being people"Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
SO TRUE!
It's not about how many ts women he's been with but how he regards themQuote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I highly doubt that Amber with the majority..maybe for you..but most girls if the guy has been with Susan, Kathy, and Meghan before her..he is out of the runningQuote:
Originally Posted by amberskyi
And most ts girls will hate on a guy and try to make themselves look good...and ts girls will believe another ts girl even if it's not true..
You don't know what went on and why maybe she was left behind..
Some girls are just crazy and other girls are well just sluts..and like I said many guys do the if she'll sleep with me on the first night..she's a slut..
And moves on..it's like a character test..
i actually mean it . who wants to have sex all of the time ? snuggling, hugging, carrassing etc is so much better, enjoyable, fulfilling and satisfying,,, atleast to me :) :dancing:Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
I have always said that if a guy doesn't want to date a girl for no other reason than the fact that she is a ts than he is a chaser.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I don't care about a guys past, what I do care about is if he sees me as a person or as an experience/fantasy
I know right who wants to have sex with me if we can just watch a marathon of walking dead? With hot cocoa? duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Rhodes
In a nutshell, the question was: Why are so many people so damned neurotic?Quote:
Originally Posted by rockabilly
If I knew the answer to that, I'd have already written the definitive book, & be way too rich to be slummin in here with y'all. Butt alas... The sheer volume of things nobody knows is too much to fathom. So... On the narrowed topic:
I don't pay attention to the whiney crap. When I hear it spewed out of somebody's mouth, I stop paying attention to them. If it comes from my sexual partner of the moment, I just want them to leave as soon as I'm done. Now I may be different from most, but I'm perfectly content with my own company. I don't get lonely or bored, & life's too short to waste time pursuing friendships with anyone I'm not impressed by or or wouldn't feel comfortable sharing silence with. Our sexual relationship has nothing to do with it. I find the mating rituals to be interesting but personally uncomfortable. I'm not a big fan of discomfort. I don't need companionship, so I find it easier at my age to avoid the furtive feeling out process.
I also agree on this, just to let you know I always get calls and emails from guys who wants to date and make friends with me. They said they dont like me as an escort for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Ok I say "yes" to them but they didnt even date me. They dont even bring me to movie house or walk on the park. Or dinner or lunch. Or introduce to their friends and family like what bf/ friends would do. Sometimes they would even call me late at night if they can visit me in my room. They just want free sex thats what I feel. I feel an escort to them not a friend or a date lol
I even encounter guys telling they would marry me and give me US visa or UK visa. But I must date them and be with them to check if theres a connection. But I dont really feel they are serious about marriage with me. I just feel they just want free sex and looking for a free escort they could take advantage of. The reason I become an escort is because of this
i think the main point of some of the more "serious" replies here was that it's difficult to meet and get to know transsexuals without the problematic tight rope of being labelled and/or the expectancy of sex (or past history of).Quote:
Originally Posted by amberskyi
btw: there is a thread on this forum about why transsexuals girls are much better than genetic girls. and, although flattering, nobody suggested that such a mindset could be more negative than positive- as you've now clearly stated.
Yeah, I hear you... People forget the reality of ours and think we bash on men too much, as a matter fact I think it's the more chance a guy can prove himself worthy of my companion since too many bad men out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
Same goes for me and work, guys say they want to hang out but they don't put the time of day, as if it's a challenge to them. since I charge they want to see challenge themselves to have sex with me for free, and I'm not going to lie when I was younger i fell for that, now that I'm older I am very carful now, it's not a good feeling at all! I would never give most guys the time of day.
it is also the underlying reason for your problem. you cannot expect to be treated like girlfriend material if you're an escort. also you said you get a number of calls from people that want to date you. have you ever wondered who looks for a girlfriend from escort ads?Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
When I consider someone my BF, I spend lots of time with him. It can be a bit smothering but that's how I like it, as long as neither of us is doing it out of sexual convenience. The emotional stuff has to be there. In fact I don't even consider it to be a real relationship unless I've cried in front of him or we've had an argument or 2. But that's me. When guys want long distance romances, I have to laugh. If they don't want to spend most of their free time with me, why are we even bothering to date more than once? My BF's have been my companions. Having sex was only part of it. There's no way a guy can be a chaser, if you live with him, and you don't know he's a chaser. I agree with the OP to a degree, but there really are lots of tranny chasers out there. GGs have their version of a tranny chaser, except they call them DOGS. I don't go to clubs to weed through the dogs. I go to clubs to have fun, if I go at all. The guys I've connected with have had little or no experience with transsexuals. They dated me in spite of my being a TS instead of because I was a TS. But guys like that are rare and hard to find. Being a sex worker makes it even harder. But I genuinely love men. I don't need my ass kissed,. And I like guys who are somewhat bad boys, but with good hearts
But I'm not kidding myself. Most guys who are obsessive about porn are not dating or husband material. I don't hold it against a guy for checking it out now and then, just not every day. Cock thirsty gay guys and gay male couples watch a lot of porn together. Hetero couples don't do it as much.
That's the whole topic on tranny chasing!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
You basically made my point.
Those type of guys are the tranny chasers we ts don't like. And the reason I believe it's only right for women like us to have our guards up. But we get a lot of heat with this mentality, But it protects me because at the end of the day I only have me to protect form losers and selfish people like this.
technically, you don't have any time to give since you're expecting money for it in the first place. this was kelly's point, unfortunately you've been too busy with negative hyperbole to seriously consider anything she said.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
i understand what you meanQuote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
they are the one who said they wouldnt view me as an escort but a friend or simply a date. so why not give it a try. because i believe they are not lying because for myself i dont lie if i want to date or just want sex with you. but once you date them you feel they are not real about dating or being friends. i feel they just want free sex. so the question now is whats the need for you guys to lie about it?
I also post an ad on a dating site. I didnt tell im an escort and tried dating guys but still the same. I feel they just want free sex and making excuse to date just to have freebies lol
That's very ignorant to say. Just because I work it doesn't mean I don't go out and try to live a normal life.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
It's not that I'm disregarding Kelly, However there is another side that you guys refuse to want to see.
We are not expecting moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
I dont need their money
What i need is their truthfullness that they would date me or make friends with me
I taught they want to date me but why not take me to dinner? not take me to movies? not take me to park and hang out and talk. have a drinks together. they dont do that. they just want to go to my room instantly and i could feel just want sex
AGREE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
If we are escort it doesnt mean in our normal life we are also escort
In my normal life im not an escort just that simple
Escorting is just a job
Allysa, it doesn't matter wether your an escort or not do not think for once it's just the guys that call you, Its a dumb thing to say that it was partly your mistake. These kind of men lurk not just on our ad, but on all form of online sites, dating, clubs, bars etc... He has not lived our lifestyle so he goes of on what he perceives and it's wrong in many levels..
When your young and people are everywhere trying to take advantage of you sometimes you fall for it.
These men don't know what it's like starting at 16 in this industry with a shy and meek personality, not to mention gullible and naive. These type of men prey on that weakness, No one is to blame but the men, when they contact you trough your ad knowing your an escort they have a braincell to realize you charge, and shouldn't expect anything. So it's their fault for taking advantage of that.
you've got my number . i love hot chocolate and thought mentioning it in the post but did not . my friend has the walking dead series recorded and zombie chicks love me ,,,,, not for sex, but for my brains :geek: :geek:Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Lets just say that outhere are quality men but the most percentage is the quantity ones ,thats why is hard to beleve most of them.
Thanks girl yes now im more stronger and more careful in meeting this type of guys. If you want to date or make friends with me Ill make sure its a date or make friends type of meet up. No touching allowed unless i find them hot and yummy lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Agree so hard to believe most of them. I dont know the need to lie, just for the purpose of meet up! Grrrr!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsadriana
Then there is the where do you meet people? Club life at some point starts to look unattractive. Once I hit 40 things like theatre and dining out and museums had much more appeal than clubbing. Where do you meet people at that point? I had a couple escort experiences and decided i don't think it's for me. I'd rather have a real emotional connection than the illusion of one any day and in the abscence of real would prefer to remain in reality. I also think it's silly to think any guy attracted to the physical form of someone pre op doesnt have some measure of blended sexuality. So what? Who cares imo society has so many sexual hang ups it's the real root of all the nuerosis talked about in the thread. Sex acts don't create identity
beyond the most superficial levels. Charactor, compassion, empathy, acceptance have nothing to do with the physical. i've been mostly out of commited relationships since I got divorced. I did quite a bit of sexual exploration afterwards as well. I really just feel sorry for those of you hung up on labels with sexuality or conflicted about what people would say if they "fill in the neurosis". Wanting things black and white when they aren't is just an invitation for internal conflict. I'd rather have my skin fit and be judged than to pretend that my attraction to transgendered woman is entirely rooted in my predominant heterosexuality. Anyway maybe I'll bump into someone at the corner deli tommorow...who knows?
I think it's a shame anyone would have issue with saying he finds you women attractive or taking you out. I'd tell anyone who asked me " On my continueing journey of self discovery i found I had a deep attraction to transgendered women." i mean so what be Popeye and enjoy life or be afraid and cheat yourself. The attraction isn't the fetish thing either that's being attacted to an object not a type of person being one I am open to....I did meet someone pretty damn mean who was transgendered she reminded me of my wife. The unattractiveness was her behavior she was stunning to look at. I just don't do mean. I treat people right and have no use for anyone who doesn't.
I really appreciate guys who are honest to say to me that they really want to meet and fuck me but they dont have money. Its good for me as long as i find them hot and yummy ill fuck them lol
But the guys who will tell they want date or make friends just to get a freebie sex and I dont feel they are serious for a date or friendship! Ewwww total waste!
Uh...It should not be "wrong" that a man knows that he likes transsexuals or prefers transsexuals over genetic women or men as men. It is extremely important to understand that so many people fall somewhere between the rigid orientation markers of:Quote:
Originally Posted by amberskyi
Gay 100% 90% 80% 70% 60% 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0%
0 % 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Straight
There are loads of guys that can't mentally do the math on their sexuality for years and years of their lives; look at the number of guys that come to this forum and ask " I like transsexuals, does that make me (100%) gay?
The answer? No. Liking or being attracted to transsexuals alone does not make you gay.
Our society often preaches these absolute ideas that don't hold up during intellectual dissection and rational discussion. It is mostly a very puritanical idea that people are born ( God created) 100% and ANYTHING else is the trickery of Satan or the wrath of God ( how ironic?) for not truly loving God in ones own heart. I don't want to go very deep into this particular part but the horrifying number of gay people that have killed themselves after exhausting every method to de-gay themselves says it all.
In closing on this subject it shouldn't be freaky, creepy, concerning, disturbing, gross, perverse etc for someone to like you Amber ( or you Evon) for being the transexual ladies that you are. The man or men that admit this to themselves and to you might actually be more deeply attuned to what they need most in a romantic partnership. This might actually be the first step towards a quality relationship from a man to you, this information should not be a deal-breaker.
maybe you didn't realize it, but you did. your first response to this thread was that as follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
the point you missed is that a lot of men do indeed expect sex on the first date- has nothing to do with you being transsexual.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
maybe you don't understand occupational hazard, but most people don't just turn off being what they are simply because "they're no longer on the clock".Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor
i could say the same thing for myself and list my background- but that's not how conversations work. i won't bother addressing the latter half of your replyQuote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
No I never said to Kelly that i disagree with her, at some point she is right, many ts are jaded and chipped shoulders. however my insight is of a woman who is just careful and that point was missed.
But we are talking in terms of the regards of tranny chasers, not about men who expect sex not he first date, its about the regard to transexuals. or how they go about it that classify them to me a tranny chaser. I don't miss points.
Being an escort does make one incapable of emotion, or a love life. So the totality of what your saying is false.
This is experiences I have gathered and majority of ts women about tranny chasers, I have not said all men, or even mentioned straight men so I really don't know where your coming from...
kelly was talking about tranny chasers, so what topic are we speaking off on. I am on subject, where did you go? Your assumption of a lifestyle you don't live is destined for a mistake, you just can't state something that is false.
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Originally Posted by bluesoul
is this for real? in Asia most dates doesnt have sex on first date. even on the 2nd or 3rd. usually can only have sex here if your bf-gf already
the process of dating and courting a girl here is kinda tedious
Great post Kelly, thank you! I happen to be a trans-attracted man. I've been in a couple of reelationships (3yrs and 8yrs). I've heard the "Oh, you date trans-women. I want a man that hasn't or doesnt date trans-women". WTF! So you would rather be with a man who has no idea on what issues he may have nor what his family and friends would say. These same misguided fools then wonder why thoes guy's have issues and can't handle it. SMH!
This is something culturally very western, Allysa. Men here are stuck on those ways and forget life outside other countries, what do expect from a culture who's divorce rate is 50 percent...Quote:
Originally Posted by alyssaluxor