17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

This is very sad but im sure there is more too the story be prob was gonna rob someone..

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

I don't care what the racial makeup was, it could have been a self-appointed fake cop Black man walking the streets of his 'hood who blows away a Korean teenager claiming self-defense and that the kid looked shady.

It would still be a major news story.

The difference is, only a White guy in America isn't charged and arrested for murder in less than an hour.

Leaving a convenience store and walking down the sidewalk in a suburb usually doesn't earn you the death penalty on sight from some asshole with a gun.

Everything about this assault was premeditated. Mr. Zimmerman called the police that he observed the victim looking suspicious, followed and approached him when he was expressly told not to do so by police, and executed him with a point blank shot in the chest because he felt 'threatened'.

No, only men of a certain complexion in this country could even dream of getting off totally spotless without a minute of jail time for murdering a kid because he felt like it.

EDIT: Zimmerman according to his father is of hispanic descent, and he suggests the victim is the one who followed and confronted Mr. Zimmerman.

Mr. Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for assaulting and arresting a police officer, the charges were later dropped. He's received multiple complaints from residents in his housing development for his over-aggressive tactics and even followed one resident to their home to confront them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1340358.html

Having a gun carry permit does not allow you to play Dirty Harry IRL.
BTW the Retreat at Twin Lakes development didn't even have a neighborhood watch program. This asshole just decided to appoint HIMSELF the neighborhood watch captain.

If not prison, this nutcase needs to be kept in a secure psychiatric facility for evaluation and treatment. The definition of a delusional homicidal narcissist.

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Great post although I think a black man trying to intelligently explain anything related to race to white Americans is a lost cause. Slavery may have officially ended in America a little more than 150 years ago but the master/slave dynamic of white and black still exists. Both sides are guilty of perpetrating that dynamic - too many black people still act like slaves and too many white still people feel they are entitled to dictate to non-whites. It doesn't fucking matter what that clown's justification is: he shot an unarmed teenager at point-blank range in an open environment during daylight. He hasn't been arrested simply because he's white - end of story. No matter what the fucking apologists say.

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Originally Posted by SunshyneMonroe

This is very sad but im sure there is more too the story be prob was gonna rob someone..

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Of course that's your conclusion....you're a hooker so you automatically think the worse of everyone and in particular of black men. Haven't you stated time and again in your pre-celebrity days - before you found it prudent to tone done your bullshit so that you can attract prospects to your website - what you actually think about black men? Who robs more: black men or white transsexual prostitutes? See how easily your 'logic' can be turned against you?

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

\Having a gun carry permit does not allow you to play Dirty Harry IRL.

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I agree, concealed carry is a very big responsibility. Most of the people who carry, do not use their permit as a blanket warrent to dispense justice as they see fit.

Fuck me. It's not just the orange jumpsuit but I know which looks more like the crim.

http://www.blackyouthproject.com/wp-...an-289x400.jpg

"Still Zimmerman claims he shot the teenager in self-defense and the Sanford Police Department contends that it does not have enough probable cause to prove otherwise."

Surely, the police should contend that they don't have enough probably cause to prove that it was self-defence? Gun vs skittles?

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Originally Posted by SunshyneMonroe

This is very sad but im sure there is more too the story be prob was gonna rob someone..

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Why do you think he was going to rob someone?

Zimmerman was well-documented as a menace. Read the articles.

And he murdered this poor baby in cold blood imo. All you need to do is look at the photos on Huff Post. They speak volumes about Trayvon Martin.

Funny how a thread based on a story like this gets all the idiots and racists to come crawling out of the woodwork.

I can find literally hundreds of articles concerning the police shooting of Mark Dugan last year in Tottenham, ( with views listing him as anything from an angel to a gang banger) the one thing I cant find is a petition circulated by the OP demanding justice for him and trial for his killers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516

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Originally Posted by SFTB

I can find literally hundreds of articles concerning the police shooting of Mark Dugan last year in Tottenham, ( with views listing him as anything from an angel to a gang banger) the one thing I cant find is a petition circulated by the OP demanding justice for him and trial for his killers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516

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It's funny (pathetically so) how you're more concerned that an British guy, who has lived in the USA for over 35% of his life and is on the mailing list for change.org, has posted something that he thinks is a problem and people should sign the petition, rather than the actual situation itself?
The Mark Dugan case is irrelevant to this one.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

It's funny (pathetically so) how you're more concerned that an British guy, who has lived in the USA for over 35% of his life and is on the mailing list for change.org, has posted something that he thinks is a problem and people should sign the petition, rather than the actual situation itself?
The Mark Dugan case is irrelevant to this one.

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It's pathetic that you think a young black male shot dead by British police while riding in a cab over a year ago, with no one brought to trial and a neverending investigation is irrelevant.

It sounds at the very least like a similar situation, and much more like a government institution covering up a crime. But you see, I'm just curious if you had circulated any petitions or had any opinions on the incident, I guess we have your opinion on it now.

What I'm not going to do is assume I know anything about what goes on across the pond, or how the police conduct an investigation over there. It has been almost a year right? And just a month in the Sanford, FL case.

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Originally Posted by SFTB

It's pathetic that you think a young black male shot dead by British police while riding in a cab over a year ago, with no one brought to trial and a neverending investigation is irrelevant.

It sounds at the very least like a similar situation, and much more like a government institution covering up a crime. But you see, I'm just curious if you had circulated any petitions or had any opinions on the incident, I guess we have your opinion on it now.

What I'm not going to do is assume I know anything about what goes on across the pond, or how the police conduct an investigation over there. It has been almost a year right? And just a month in the Sanford, FL case.

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It's just not RELEVANT to this issue.
As I've stated I've lived longer in the USA than many Americans but even if I hadn't, this case is very disturbing (much more than the Mark Dugan one). I don't need to go playing "tit for tat" on murders of "young black men" just because I'm "across the pond".
News is international.

I fail to see how a young man walking back to his families house, carrying no weapons and is killed by a civilian to:

"Officers of the Metropolitan Police stopped a cab which was carrying Duggan as a passenger at about 18:15 BST on 4 August 2011 to attempt to arrest him.In the course of the ensuing incident, the police fired twice, killing Duggan with a single gunshot to the chest.
The IPCC had commissioned tests on the pistol by the Forensic Science Service and had received advice that it was an illegal firearm.
The gun was wrapped in a sock, a practice allegedly used to avoid leaving evidence if it was used."

If you've a problem with the Mark Dugan case then open it in a new thread. Don't be a douche thinking there is anything more underlying here, because I'm not an American, to a very disturbing incident that I added my name a poll and would like others to.

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Originally Posted by SunshyneMonroe

This is very sad but im sure there is more too the story be prob was gonna rob someone..

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What?! Why? What is that statement based on? Unbelievable. You just admit that you need more info then assume he was going to rob someone. I hope that wa sarcasm, because if it wasn't, it's just sad.

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Originally Posted by SunshyneMonroe

This is very sad but im sure there is more too the story be prob was gonna rob someone..

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That's the LAST thing I thought YOU'D say lol.

It kills me when "White" men, who have NEVER experienced racism have an opinion about a situation that was clearly racially motivated. Until you're harrased by copsn asking you where you're going in a perdominately white neighborhood when YOU LIVE THERE - until you're a white collar professional, in charge of a million dollar business; I could care less what you think. This kid was killed because he was black.

Lets just say that it would be a lot harder for a white kid to be shot under those circumstances.

On this forum, has anyone yet pointed out that Zimmerman is Latino?

Zimmerman was a self appointed neighborhood watch captain. Sounds to me like he was just dying to play vigilante/enforcer before this even happened. When he called the police before he shot Trayvon Martin, he was recorded as saying that "these assholes always get away".

He also had a bad reputation in the very community he elected himself to "protect". And he's had his own problems with the law. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1340358.html

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Originally Posted by dabaldone

I could care less what you think. This kid was killed because he was black.

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And this kid was attacked because he was white, ( though for some reason, it wasnt classified a hate crime)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

and they were attacked because they were white; ( no hate crime classification)

http://www.ohio.com/news/akron-polic...amily-1.142665

And much as you are convinced the Sanford teen was shot because of the color of his skin, even though no racial motive, no racial slurs, etc I also feel that the incident in Knoxville was racially motivated. Everyone entitled to an opinion.

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Violent piece of shit assholes everywhere, and I dont think any race has a monoply on it.

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

When it's 80 plus degrees and someone is wearing a sweatshirt/hoodie in a gated community, they start out looking suspicious. NO ONE knows what kind of crap that kid gave the guard. Black teenagers are the most disrespectful group of kids in the world.

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It happened on a rainy night.

Like Sunshyne Monroe concluded, he had to be on his way to rob someone. This is the belief system about young blacks, because they are synonymous with crime. It's sad because a person who's committed no crime will suffer for it.Maybe this Zimmerman guy killed out of fear more than hate.Was the desegregation of schools and neighborhoods done in vain?

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Originally Posted by Falrune

On this forum, has anyone yet pointed out that Zimmerman is Latino?

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Has anyone pointed out to you that Latino is not a race?

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Originally Posted by SFTB

And this kid was attacked because he was white, ( though for some reason, it wasnt classified a hate crime)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eating31m.html

and they were attacked because they were white; ( no hate crime classification)

http://www.ohio.com/news/akron-polic...amily-1.142665

And much as you are convinced the Sanford teen was shot because of the color of his skin, even though no racial motive, no racial slurs, etc I also feel that the incident in Knoxville was racially motivated. Everyone entitled to an opinion.

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Violent piece of shit assholes everywhere, and I dont think any race has a monoply on it.

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Question: Did that fact that your unrelated cases weren't classified as hate crimes have anything to do with the overall investigation? Did the perpetrators come forward and say they did it? And then were they not arrested?

If you're going to give examples, try to give some thought to whether or not they actually apply to the discussion. Literally, every single example you've given is easily distinguishable from the facts in this particular case.

You sound like you're mad because those cases weren't classified as hate crimes. Get your priorities straight. Were the criminals ultimately arrested? If so then who cares about the classification. Assuming this is/was classified a hate crime it sure didn't keep the shooter behind bars. It didn't even get him arrested.

If I ever got shot, I hope they don't say it's a hate crime. Sounds to me like I might get some justice. But anyway, let me go grab my gun. It's my shift for my community watch program...

Zimmerman is an Hispanic Jew. Looks like he's got some Moor in him too since the hair is bordering on North African. Obama is probably more "white" than this guy.

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

Zimmerman is an Hispanic Jew. Looks like he's got some Moor in him too since the hair is bordering on North African. Obama is probably more "white" than this guy.

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Moor?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Moor?

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A North African Berber muslim is a Moor. They took over Southern Spain about the same time the Jews like Zimmereman's ancestors were getting kicked out. Actually, the United Nations needs to get pulled into this investigation by Al Sharpton.

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The term Moors has referred to several historic and modern populations, used principally in reference to the

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Yeah anyone could have made that search ... I know what a Moor is - I just want to know how you came to that conclusion? Especially when the same articles stated:
"The term 'Moors' has no real ethnological value."
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"Some people to whom it is applied consider the term pejorative and racist."

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Moor?

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Moops

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Yeah anyone could have made that search ... I know what a Moor is - I just want to know how you came to that conclusion? Especially when the same articles stated:
"The term 'Moors' has no real ethnological value."
and
"Some people to whom it is applied consider the term pejorative and racist."

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The guy on your avatar with the shit-eating grin looks kinda like a Moor too.

moor chicks please,i love them tgirls

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

The guy on your avatar with the shit-eating grin looks kinda like a Moor too.

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Really? How?

He looks like an Iraqi or Syrian wanted poster. Shifty, and beady-eyed. The left side of his face looks like an I.E.D. may have gone off near him.

Who is that Moorish looking character?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wj9Y...0&feature=plcp

Cute picture of him when he was 12. What's he look like as a 17 year old with a hoodie?

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

Cute picture of him when he was 12. What's he look like as a 17 year old with a hoodie?

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If you actually watched the video you would know....arrtard,lol

He still looks like a tiny teenager,and you would have to be a real bitch,to see him as a threat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01oZP...watch_response

Normal people see a small 17yr old kid racist fucks like yourdaddy & SFTB see

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...scary_9036.jpg

What are the odds that there are two racist yourdaddys from FL on HungAngels? ;-) "Yourdaddy" was banned about 6 years ago for making racist comments towards Allanah, if I remember correctly. It happened maybe about 6-8 after Solitary Brother was banned as "Geekmeat", back in the Chefmike days.

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Normal people see a small 17yr old kid racist fucks like yourdaddy & SFTB see

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...scary_9036.jpg

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Here's a racist for you:
That would be the same MSNBC host Reverend Al Sharpton — hired by MSNBC president Phil Griffin — caught on this video clip from Evocateur, a documentary film of the late television host Morton Downey, Jr. Sharpton, seen here on the set of Downey’s television show, is heatedly shouting to an audience member:

You ain’t nothing, you a punk faggot. Now come on, do something!

That video, provided on YouTube courtesy of Tucker Carlson’s The Daily Caller, is in fact an excerpt of a trailer for the film on Downey produced by Ironbound Films. The entire trailer can be found here at the Ironbound site.
The clip of the MSNBC host hired by Mr. Griffin has now surfaced along with a series of Sharpton audio tapes. Beginning with this reference by Sharpton to the black then-mayor of New York, David Dinkins.

David Dinkins.… You wanna be the only n….on television, the only n….in the newspaper, the only n…to talk.…Don’t cover them, don’t talk to them, cause you got the only n…problem. Cause you know if a black man stood up next to ya they would see you for the whore that you really are.

Other tapes are littered with derogatory references to “Greek homos,” “Chinamen,” “Koreans sell us watermelons,” and so on.

Different dude. He was white.

I live near there and heard that that dude is a piece of shit, agressive against people and thinks he's some cop or something. BUT it's good ol boy territory here and we'll see how it goes down.

The guy has vacated the area BTW