Shocking new video from Sarina Valentina!!

I saw this video last night, and it made me so sad. I remember when she reappeared as Sarina after a break of a few years from first bursting on the scene, and her hips and butt were noticeably rounder. I worried that she may have done silicone injections to get that new look, and it turns out that was the case. Hopefully she can get that stuff removed and get back to good health.

Maybe some of the ladies can answer this, but I've been reading about fat transfer, where they use your own fat from one place in the body to inject in places where you want a rounder look. Is that the safer alternative to sil? I know that some of the fat may be absorbed so it might require multiple procedures to get the desired look. So is it simply a matter of money, where fat transfer is more expensive, or is it that fat transfer just doesn't work compared to direct silicone injections?

Wish her the best, never met her but she sounds like a nice girl.
Thats why I better stay the way I am and stay away from these kind of problems.

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Originally Posted by Shelf

A topical issue as we have the problem in the UK with the French PPI implants. It now looks like the advice will be to have them removed but should the UK's National Health Service pay for all of those removals?

I say no. Woman who had implants done privately for cosmetic reasons should, IHMO, get them removed at their own expense. On the other hand, women who had reconstructive surgery on the NHS following, for example, a mastectomy, should certainly have the removal paid for. Were she in the UK, Sarina could probably argue her surgery was part of her transition and hence not simply cosmetic.

I think the problem is that very few if any PPI implants were used by the NHS and the issue is with private plastic surgeons, famously, poorly regulated in the UK.

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I see where you are coming from. I don't know how the UK works, but in the US, we have something called the FDA which regulates and lets us know if certain products should be OK to use. If the breast implants were approved to be OK to use and sold to the public with an FDA approval on them, then if we had socialized health care, I think it would be the governments responsibility to take care of the people who trusted in the FDA to tell them its safe to use when they turn out to be harmful. If the UK has anything like the FDA and approved the implants to be OK to use, they should be taking care of those people who trusted in the government to give a seal of approval on a product.

However, in a case like this where the person chose to put things in their body that everyone knows is harmful....I dunno.

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Originally Posted by Ben

What Sarina says at the 9:24 minute mark, "I don't have health insurance." This is why we need universal public health care. Everyone, especially Sarina now, needs care. We need it. Americans want it. Why don't we have it? I think it may have something to do with concentrated private capital -- ha ha!
Anyway, public health care is about kindness and compassion. It's also more efficient and brings about better results....
I mean, even President Obama's own mom was fighting with insurance companies when she was literally dying of cancer.
And Obama said in 2003 he was in favor of single payer:

Barack Obama and single payer health care - YouTube

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I think you're forgetting ask another question. Sarina doesn't have health insurance!? So she is not making any money doing porn? Her site isn't creating any income? I think we need to question the TS industry for underpaying girls.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

I think you're forgetting ask another question. Sarina doesn't have health insurance!? So she is not making any money doing porn? Her site isn't creating any income? I think we need to question the TS industry for underpaying girls.

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Its not about underpaying people. We make hundreds of dollars an hour for the work that we do. Its just that there isn't enough work out there to afford things like health insurance unless you escort or venture into working behind the camera to generate more work for yourself. Especially for the girls who think they are worth more than other girls and end up getting even less work because they ask for too much. Not only that, but as you can see most of these girls rather spend money on vanity.

I wish Sarina the best of luck and I also wish she would come in here too.

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Originally Posted by AmyDaly

Its not about underpaying people. We make hundreds of dollars an hour for the work that we do. Its just that there isn't enough work out there to afford things like health insurance unless you escort or venture into working behind the camera to generate more work for yourself. Especially for the girls who think they are worth more than other girls and end up getting even less work because they ask for too much. Not only that, but as you can see most of these girls rather spend money on vanity.

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Sarina escorts part time, so its not that she does not make money... I don't do porn and i feel that I'm well off with 800 a sessions, plus my main income with my benefactors... it's not about the money because health insurance just makes it harder for ts because on regular basis of hormones we are considered risks, I had to find a loophole to get my insurance, I have benefactors in the us and in europe and I found a way to get insurance in europe plus i find service there way better!

I just feel that ts women should think about the future as soon as they start making income, because the future really does matter and they forget to live in the future as oppose to living now...

I wish Sarina all the best for a successful recovery.

shame this sucks she is a very attractive very nice sounding girl.
Sadly she is right the only way to take it out is to pull it out...not very good and not very easy and not pretty.
We are talking about some very serious scarring :-( It's a shame because she has a beautiful body which is her means of income.
Poor girl :-( I hope she feels better ASAP!

So who do you trust?

If not everybody has good health-care and sometimes your friends are stupid or you get bad advice on the Internet or a silicon injection pusher. who should you trust for advice?


Let's face it there are alot of conflicting voices in these forums and the trans community. I never had doubts that you should not pump aquarium glue into my hips, but what if all my friends are doing it? I might think it is ok and safe.


Like EvonRose said 'think about the future'. How do you know when you have the right group of advisors for your transition? How do you know when you have advisors with the right prospective.


I would recommend at lest the following folks be in your network.
1. A mentor - somebody who has been were you are and is now where you want to be and will give you "how to" and "how not to" advice.
2. Technical expert - somebody who will give you competent medical advice (doctor or clinic councilor) as long as they have above average medical knowledge.
3. A friend - somebody who is willing to tell you when you are making a mistake, but will stand by you even if you make it.


I think with this group at least two of the three would have said silicone in your butt is a very bad idea.


POA

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Originally Posted by postopadmirer

So who do you trust?

If not everybody has good health-care and sometimes your friends are stupid or you get bad advice on the Internet or a silicon injection pusher. who should you trust for advice?


Let's face it there are alot of conflicting voices in these forums and the trans community. I never had doubts that you should not pump aquarium glue into my hips, but what if all my friends are doing it? I might think it is ok and safe.


Like EvonRose said 'think about the future'. How do you know when you have the right group of advisors for your transition? How do you know when you have advisors with the right prospective.


I would recommend at lest the following folks be in your network.
1. A mentor - somebody who has been were you are and is now where you want to be and will give you "how to" and "how not to" advice.
2. Technical expert - somebody who will give you competent medical advice (doctor or clinic councilor) as long as they have above average medical knowledge.
3. A friend - somebody who is willing to tell you when you are making a mistake, but will stand by you even if you make it.


I think with this group at least two of the three would have said silicone in your butt is a very bad idea.


POA

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You should be your own advisor... I know we are smart enough to know and do our research and we are pretty educated enough to know when something is medically approved or not, if its not approved there is a good reason for it! Second listen to your doctors, not black market doctors but real doctors. They will tell you, give it time, transition goes on for years even for genetic women, there is no such thing as easy fix, work for what you want! And I'm sure many of these ts know it was bad for them but they did it anyway... Its your body and your the one paying for the price, Bottom line.

Health first, beauty second gals.... c'mon!

I blame men in general, they want curvy girls

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN;1072020I

think we need to question the TS industry for underpaying girls.

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shut up

a fashion female model who work on tv in my country make the same as a TS model in USA so shut the fuck up

do to mess with the indians mapuches

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Originally Posted by Nikka

I blame men in general, they want curvy girls

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Well actually it should not be what men want, girls should modified their bodies because they want to do it and not because men want it. Girls have to accept how they look and for people to accept them how they are. If a guy doesnt like me because I have a small ass or because something else I dont care, there will always be guys who will like them. Everyone has diferent taste and sometimes girls want to please everyone.

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Originally Posted by NatashaLover

Well actually it should not be what men want, girls should modified their bodies because they want to do it and not because men want it. Girls have to accept how they look and for people to accept them how they are. If a guy doesnt like me because I have a small ass or because something else I dont care, there will always be guys who will like them. Everyone has diferent taste and sometimes girls want to please everyone.

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I agree with this. The girl should be doing it for herself first and only. I can understand wanting to be pleasing to everyone else and to be accepted and be pretty, sexy, desireable, etc. But don't do anything to yourself for anybody else. There will always be someone who will love you for you, and not because you bought yourself some hips, or a big butt, or bigger tits, etc. Cockhounds aside, there are many of us who love you because of the women inside you, and not because you have a big ass, some boobs and a cock. its up to you, NOT US, to decide how to be that woman. If you are true to yourself, then nobody can say a damn thing to you to take anything away from you. Nothing is worth the risk if the risk could kill you, or make your life miserable in the long run.

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Originally Posted by AmyDaly

Its not about underpaying people. We make hundreds of dollars an hour for the work that we do. Its just that there isn't enough work out there to afford things like health insurance unless you escort or venture into working behind the camera to generate more work for yourself. Especially for the girls who think they are worth more than other girls and end up getting even less work because they ask for too much. Not only that, but as you can see most of these girls rather spend money on vanity.

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quite right amy :-) that's why I have a 2nd job and still go to school. can't rely solely on the porn industry for income.

pvt health insurances have a lot of small print....... best advice is to save up and keep some money stashed away for the bad times, when your ill, have an accident or things go wrong- that's the best insurance you can get.

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Originally Posted by FRANKLIN

I think we need to question the TS industry for underpaying girls.

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STFU Franklin. You porn obsessed asshole. You see the whole TS world through your porn goggles. It makes me wonder if you have ever even interacted with a transexual beyond the internet, much less met one. I watched my ex go through elective surgeries and pain I couldnt imagine until she could get the person in the mirror to match the person in her mind. That included going to Mexico and getting her ribs cracked and reset. I've known girls to get pumped at parties in hotels, take hormones bought at some shady flea market in LA, start doing meth to get skinny, get fat taken from their belly and pumped into their face, the list goes on... Alot of girls really want to get to this ideal image they have set in their minds and make some risky decisions to get there.

You show an ignorance of transexuals and the insurance industry. But I'm sure your encyclopedic knowledge of porn comes in handy.

This makes me sad of course, but relieved I didn't get pumped when I was going to...something in my head told me to back out and I did..

I feel so sorry for Sarina...

Insurance with blue cross and blue shield is only $280 a month girls...

After watching the video, is it just me or does anyone else just want to give Sarina a hug (in a non-sexual way).

Firstly may I say how much I sympathise with Serena. She is a young girl who is obviously in pain and who is frightened too. I don't know if Serena reads this board, but if you do, it appears from your vlog that you are continuing with an exercise programme that involves sit-ups. You say something like 'It's as if I'm rolling on a rock,' at one point. You really should stop that right now, if you haven't already. It is unquestionably causing further trauma to an already inflamed area and can't do other than make the problem worse. In fact, it might easily have caused the problem to flare up in the first place. Have you discussed your exercise regime with your doctor? My apologies if I have this wrong.

A better approach to exercise for people who have delicacies, either self-induced or as a result of injury, can be to find a decent sports swimming pool--one laid out in lanes for training, not the kind with the flumes--and get a coach there to work up a daily routine. Swimming exercises all the muscle groups and gives a mix of exercise types, as well as improving heart and lung performance; but more importantly, here anyway, it involves no contact trauma (unless you smack your head off the edge from not looking, of course 8)

Good luck anyway kiddo.

I agree with this, makes total sense.

Its kind of sad the lengths people go to sometimes, not sure if this is to satisfy their own aspirations for themselves, or what girls think men want. I like imperfections, its what makes us what we are!

I wish Sarina all the best

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

You should be your own advisor... I know we are smart enough to know and do our research and we are pretty educated enough to know when something is medically approved or not, if its not approved there is a good reason for it! Second listen to your doctors, not black market doctors but real doctors. They will tell you, give it time, transition goes on for years even for genetic women, there is no such thing as easy fix, work for what you want! And I'm sure many of these ts know it was bad for them but they did it anyway... Its your body and your the one paying for the price, Bottom line.

Health first, beauty second gals.... c'mon!

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Sarina, if you read this, I wish you all the best. Hopefully you are young and healthy enough to recover from this. The cure however, as you describe briefly, is intense and painful in itself. I shudder over anyone getting straight silicone injections, especially since these are quite often industrial grade silcone and not medical grade. Implants have risks--the containers can leak--but the incidence of problems is vastly lower, and the quality of the silcone gel is much higher.

I fully understand the urgency Sarina and other transgenders at a young age (late teens/early twenties) have to make their bodies match their internal gender. That need is powerful, and absent the fiscal means to attain quality medical care, the impetus to go black market is strong. But as Sarina says, don't do it.

I admire you, Sarina, for speaking out so clearly and boldly about what you have experienced, in hopes that others will not make the same mistake you did.

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Originally Posted by FreddieGomez

200% passable, voice and body

the baddest

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I am terribly impressed by her.
I am not a fan of the look because its very plastic/fake/barbie with the giant boobs and the porcelain skin but her passibility is off the charts.
I mean someone that looks like that you might say "ok she could be trans"...but to me she doesnt even register as trans.
I can NOT clock her.
I am just terribly impressed not by the look but by the woman I see and hear coming from her.

It is a good thing that she is speaking out about her experiences... hopefully it will help others think twice.

There is a reason that the FDA has not approved liquid silicone injections for widespread usage. We simply do not have sufficient data about its safety.

I have a couple of points/suggestions:

* It sounds like she has developed a foreign body granuloma (in this case, it may be termed a siliconoma, as it is due to silicone). Basically, our bodies do not like foreign objects, so they try to ingest them within macrophages (a type of immune cell) if they are small enough. Larger objects, such as those formed by silicone globules, cannot be taken up by macrophages, so they are surrounded by many macrophages, which can coalesce into giant cells. This leads to inflammation as well as scarring, since fibroblasts (cells that lay down scar tissue) also migrate to the area. Sometimes, people may even develop a sterile abscess. These granulomatous reactions may occur anywhere from months to years after the actual injections. Also, some people are more prone to get them than others. It is also theorized that impurities in non-medical grade silicone may increase the risks.

* Surgery to remove the silicone was mentioned. This is usually not a feasible option. The silicone distributes in between one's own cells, so to take it out, the surgeon would have to debride a lot of normal tissue and would lead to scarring and deformities without being able to remove all the silicone.

* I reviewed the literature and it appears that the main methods of treating these are: 1) Injections of corticosteroids directly into the granulomas. This has been shown to work for small granulomas caused by injection of small amounts of silicone to the face (I am not sure if there is great evidence for their effectiveness in larger lesions).
2) Taking systemic corticosteroids at relatively high doses by mouth; other people have successfully used minocycline, an antibiotic that has anti-inflammatory properties as well. Of course, systemic steroids are not without side effects.
3) Surgery is a last resort and often not very effective.

Here are some articles on the subject:
http://dermatology.cdlib.org/147/let...e/ricotti.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19483588

Dumb question, but here it goes... if all of the silicone is cluttered together as a result of the body rejecting it.... why can't doctors just put a big syringe in the zone and pump out the silicone?... that would probably not get everything out, but would be non invasive and would get "most of the job" done.

Maybe someone with medical experience can explain?

this is just so sad to see and i could totally relate to her

i had silicone injections before and a doctor scrape it off my body before but he said he wouldnt be able to scrape it all. i found out what they inject is not really silicone oil but its an industrial silicone oil use in pipes in building construction. the doctor said if injected in youre body it will be a wound. i know many TS girls who died because if Silicone injections

How awful, I feel bad for her.Hope she is able to get the help she needs.

I watched this video last night and have not been able to get over how sad I feel for Sarina who I found very impressive, brave and articulate. I really do wish her well. We have all made mistakes in our lives and hope we never live to rue them.

i do not exactly understand what medical treatment is available from the government in the USA but surely if this making her ill and if it becomes life threatening will she still have to pay for treatment.

Sarina is one of the prettiest TS in the circuit and a nice girl it seems. This situation she is in is bad enough and could develop into a life threatning condition. When she overcomes this problem she had better go back to the figure she had before all this silicole nonsense, she was much nicer and sexier then and still a lovely TS.

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i do not exactly understand what medical treatment is available from the government in the USA but surely if this making her ill and if it becomes life threatening will she still have to pay for treatment.

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I'm no expert but I think she will have to spend most of her own money before the government will do much of anything and what they do will be the bare minimum to save her life, not restore quality of life.

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Originally Posted by postopadmirer

I'm no expert but I think she will have to spend most of her own money before the government will do much of anything and what they do will be the bare minimum to save her life, not restore quality of life.

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Yes i agree, in their eyes she chose to get this surgery, the only thing the gov will do is pay to get the silicone taken out leaving her large holes in her butt, hips and leg areas, she will be disfigured so she needs to spend with her own money for the reconstructive part of it also...

Sorry to hear what she is going through. Hope she gets it taken care of soon and has a healthy recovery.

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Dumb question, but here it goes... if all of the silicone is cluttered together as a result of the body rejecting it.... why can't doctors just put a big syringe in the zone and pump out the silicone?... that would probably not get everything out, but would be non invasive and would get "most of the job" done.

Maybe someone with medical experience can explain?

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Most of the silicone spreads out and mixes around your cells.
Some other silicone particles get walled off by immune cells and scar tissue. You can think of the human tissue as a sponge and the silicone as a liquid that is poured on it. There is no way to suck out the liquid from a sponge with a syringe.

All surgeons can do is remove scar tissue or large particles of silicone that may collect; however, in reality, most of it gets left behind spread among your own tissue.

Its a long hard road or her to treat this poblem, but with the support of her amily & friends, & her own determination, & finding the right help to correct this, Im sure she'll be fine.

So here is what I don't get. Why?

Take myself for example. I wish I could have transitioned when I was younger. For reasons I've described before -- I could not. Now I feel it is to late. The testosterone has taken its toll, and I have too much of a masculine a body to easily EVER pass. As much as I want it, need it, regret not doing it anyway, I'm stuck in a male looking body unless medical science produces a magical miracle feminizing procedure someday (go fictionmania labs).


All that is to say there is a part of me that knows no matter how badly I want something there are limits to what SHOULD be done to achieve it. Shooting yourself full of goo is a REALLY BAD IDEA. They are not hormones, and if you are lucky they stay in place and develope scare tissue pockets. But having tried to get silicone glue off my hands when repairing stuff I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT GOES THROUGH SOMEBODY'S HEAD WHO THINKS THIS IS ANYTHING BUT A VERY BAD IDEA. Let me put this sticky gooey stuff in my body and hope it stays where it is injected.


Who was the a$$#0|€ who invented this idea in the first place? That person should be shot full of his own weight in silicone and the rolled around like a big beachball by all the girls he has impacted like Sarina (who should have known better)!

Poor Sarina Valentina! It is sad to do such things as putting your health at risk.:( I hope everything will be fine with her.

I think it's clear from the video that she regrets making a young and immature decision to have the procedure. The video is very sad and I wish her all the very best. Have a speedy, successful and painless (as possible) recovery, Sarina!

Somebody need to married the girl and give her insurance.....I would if she buys the ring.

I hope that she will make a full recovery from this condition, also hope this video discourages other young TG's from making the same mistake.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you Sarina