Black Transphobia and Homophobia...MCDONALDS beating

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Originally Posted by arnie666

I have noticed with the black guys on here a real need to prove themselves'straight'. Making sure we all know they don't take it in the ass.In fact one or two do it in every topic.

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And if you knew the race of every poster who feels the need to convince everyone else here that they're straight and don't take it in the ass, you'd doubtless have a different perspective.

That said, even among black men I know personally who deal with transgendered women, bottoming doesn't seem to be something most practice. No, that's not a scientific sampling, but even here on HA that seems to hold true. I imagine this is where the insistence on being straight comes from, and certainly it's where stating they don't take it in the ass comes from. Just so your statistics hold, I'd add that I've dealt with transwomen before several times, and I've never taken it in the ass. I don't feel the need to convince anyone here of that, but it's nonetheless true. Now all you need is one more black poster to chime in on that...

BTW, I likewise find your attitude quite amusing. Not sure what your race is, but I'll just go on and assume you're Asian because I want to keep my belief that Asians are unintentionally funny going.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=55799

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Originally Posted by arnie666

I don't hate Black people in fact I happen to like one or two ,although I must say going by the african americans on this site and other places I do find their attitudes quite amusing. And I have noticed with the black guys on here a real need to prove themselves'straight'. Making sure we all know they don't take it in the ass.In fact one or two do it in every topic.

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Hey man you need to stop with the generalising here, i'm Black (well brown actually) i'm as straight as a circle and love nothing more than a good prostate massage by some sexy she cock best orgasm going, you should give it a try sometime................

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Yea...I saw the race of everyone involved, and anyone that protests to the contrary is straight up full of shit. It's an interesting question....not the way you framed it, and not on this forum, and you might have been better advised to ask the question if the African American communities have a history of intolerance against LGBT people, notwithstanding your problem with the harassment. I don't know the answer, but when you state the case as you did...undoubtedly it's going to be met with hostility...espicially with black folks, and frankly I wouldn't blame them for being offended.
Having said that, one must be on guard about sweeping in indictments about any particular race or religion. It takes work no question about it. The easy route is to traffic in those old stereotypes that every one of us is guilty of from time to time, me included.... but in thinking about the incident, I'm left with the impression that it's probably more about socio-economic conditions, education, upbringing, and ignorance than race.
Even college campuses once the headquarters of liberal tolerance are no longer safe. Ever hear about the incident at Seton Hall in NJ and the gay kid that leaped to his death after a You Tube of him surfaced? If I'm not mistaken the people that posted the vids were white and educated, so the issue of hate is as complex as the human brain. I still think it's more about upbringing that any other factor. If you're taught tolerance and respect as a child, it doesn't take Dr. Freud to tell me that chances are you're be more accepting of others sexuality, race and gender than if you were raised in a chaotic, violent, disrespectful, poverty ridden atmosphere.
I can't imagine this happening in Beverly Hills or Scarsdale NY, or the Hamptons or San Francisco...is that because those are largely white communities? I'm guessing not. It's because thier affluent, and education and affluence have a direct correlation. The race aspect of this incident cannot be overlooked to be sure, but all I'm saying is tread lightly. I don't know what the laws are in Maryland, but in many municipalities these slugs would be looking at a hate crime...regardless of the race aspect. And the by standers could have been protected by a statute similar to the Good Smaratian Law had they chose to come to the gurls defense, but they didn't. Shame on them, but I believe in karma...and thier day will come !

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Well said that is exactly what it boils down to (socio economic conditioning rather than racial genetic predispostion), i mean come on where the fuck is the tranny hating genes in us black folk, what an absurd and ignorant idea, very funny ah ha ah ha ah ha ah ha...............................

http://www.nieuwsmening-magazine.nl/...-spreekt-video

video where chrissy tells about her experience

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Originally Posted by Birgitta

http://www.nieuwsmening-magazine.nl/...-spreekt-video

video where chrissy tells about her experience

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Poor girl after having to deal with that beating, is now having to deal with media violations and false accusations etc...........

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

If you don't think that same kind of attack could have happened on a Saturday night in a tiny redneck town in Alabama, Whites only, you're crazy.

If anything you should know being on HA, transwomen face more discrimination and public abuse than any other subset of the LGBT community.

The only difference between this attack and countless others that have happened in the past is, an idiot recorded the whole thing on his cell.

No recording and that story wouldn't have even made it into the local B'more news rag.

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Perhaps...but I wonder if it happened there if I could understand what the attackers were saying. I know the audio on the existing tape is lousy, but I couldn't understand a fucking word GH...could you?

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

Its all about the numbers.
What do they say?
The numbers say it all and there is no getting around that.
Its not about "portrayal" its about actions and attitudes.
Blacks have a BIG problem gays and trans people....
Im so sick of these fake and phony ass negros on HA ALWAYS coming up with excuses.
Blacks will NEVER denounce violence because we are violent.
Im saying it and its 1000 percent true and I dont care who doesnt like it.

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I'd like to know what numbers you're referencing, as I know I've personally never received a survey inquiring as to my opinion on gays and transsexuals or my tendency toward violence. If you, as a self-hating black man, get these surveys where the rest of us don't, clearly you don't get them because you're black or a man.

I also haven't seen a single person participating in this thread, white, black or other, who has even remotely implied that the actions taken by these fools was appropriate on any level, so I'm not sure where you're seeing "negroes" coming up with excuses or refusing to denounce violence. Altogether then, you've done nothing but make yourself look a fool by bringing your self-loathing into a thread that wasn't even remotely about you, so if that was your goal as opposed to offering something of value to the discussion, congratulations, Uncle Ruckus.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

Perhaps...but I wonder if it happened there if I could understand what the attackers were saying. I know the audio on the existing tape is lousy, but I couldn't understand a fucking word GH...could you?

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Naw, the sound recording was garbage on thar McDonalds employee's cell.

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Originally Posted by sweet485

The McDonald's beating of a transwoman is emblematic of a deeper cultural problem among a lot of Americans, but especially Black Americans. None of the negroes in the restaurant did anything to help the woman getting beat by the two savages.
From my personal experience, 95% of the time I get harrassed is by a black person, the rest is mostly latino fools trying to act like them. Homophobia and transphobia (not that they can even distinguish) is a serious problem among African-Americans. Enough of being politically correct and not say it like it is...Is not racist, is the fucking truth. Black people need to be taught how to mind their own fucking business and stay the fuck out of other people's sexuality or gender, and I don't see white people having as much problems as they do with minding their own fucking business.

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thats the first thing i saw.i say we ship them back to haiti and bring back slavery fuck em these idiots are animals and if you dont like my attitude then look in the mirrer and shape up for fucks sakes.

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Originally Posted by traLika

While it is clear that transphobia and homophobia is a problem within some black communities, it’s also clear that generalizations from people like you contribute more to problems than solutions.

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where do blacks get off thinking there above trans and gays like give your heads a shake people last time i checked white folks used to own blacks so how is it they think there better?fuckin idiots.its shamefull and discuting white people rarely act like animals but blacks seem to have wrote the book on it.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

thats the first thing i saw.i say we ship them back to haiti and bring back slavery fuck em these idiots are animals and if you dont like my attitude then look in the mirrer and shape up for fucks sakes.

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Seriously??

I'd would so fuck you raw Lisa but you are kinda/sorta a bigot. :geek:

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Seriously??

I'd would so fuck you raw Lisa but you are kinda/sorta a bigot. :geek:

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seriously?i am a bigot so what.tell me whats it gonna take for blacks to smarten the fuck up?you think im racist thats cool i have zero problems with that but im not the only racist cause ive yet to meet and manority blacks or hispanics that werent racist period.clearly blacks have a problem with gays and that seems to be ok and i have a problem with blacks who act like animals,there violent beasts from there butt fuckin ugly woman to there gun carrying so called men who have no problems taking a life.you people wanna know why youll never be as good as white people well theres your answer deal with it.

At least Lisa is honest about being racist.

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Originally Posted by SunshyneMonroe

giggles..

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Something tells me you're behind this thread.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

seriously?i am a bigot so what.tell me whats it gonna take for blacks to smarten the fuck up?you think im racist thats cool i have zero problems with that but im not the only racist cause ive yet to meet and manority blacks or hispanics that werent racist period.clearly blacks have a problem with gays and that seems to be ok and i have a problem with blacks who act like animals,there violent beasts from there butt fuckin ugly woman to there gun carrying so called men who have no problems taking a life.you people wanna know why youll never be as good as white people well theres your answer deal with it.

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WOW,,I continue to be amazed at the level of ignorance people drool out of their mouths. That video was only plastered to infuriate and incite more hate,(towards a specific group of people),,,who most likely never did a damn thing to you personally. People are calling them all animals,,etc. Yet,,it was your uncles, cousins, dads, priest who molested you, fucked you up the ass when you was a little boy and started you down that isolated miserable life of self-hate and shame. So,,the most accepted and normal group to lash out at is black people as a whole. Totally understood!!

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

wow,,i continue to be amazed at the level of ignorance people drool out of their mouths. That video was only plastered to infuriate and incite more hate,(towards a specific group of people),,,who most likely never did a damn thing to you personally. People are calling them all animals,,etc. Yet,,it was your uncles, cousins, dads, priest who molested you, fucked you up the ass when you was a little boy and started you down that isolated miserable life of self-hate and shame. So,,the most accepted and normal group to lash out at is black people as a whole. Totally understood!!

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roflmfao,seriously your blind and are clueless period.everybody knows im right including you,that vid was filmed by a piece of shit monkey employee and plastered on the net for the sole purpose of embarracing my sisters you fucking piece of shit.that is a hate crime period and these cunts need the death penalty and the workers who stood and did nothing should be held as accomplasses.

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Originally Posted by littleguy

at least lisa is honest about being racist.

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i call it like i see it and im not afraid of anybody knowing exactly who i am period.i dont run and i dont hide behind no i.p. Addy.

Well, now saying the TRUTH that blacks are virulently transphobic and homophobic is racist. Please, enough with the racist card. This is a cultural problem among most blacks. And from my own experience, 95% I get bothered while just minding my own business, is by a black person, all ages. What a shame.

I guess they have an inferiority complex...since LGBT people are the only people considered beneath them, they have to go after them to feel better about themselves. Whites don't have as much as a complex, and I never feel threatened by most of them. Guess they are more civilized.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

roflmfao,seriously your blind and are clueless period.everybody knows im right including you,that vid was filmed by a piece of shit monkey employee and plastered on the net for the sole purpose of embarracing my sisters you fucking piece of shit.that is a hate crime period and these cunts need the death penalty and the workers who stood and did nothing should be held as accomplasses.

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Once again your ignorance is bliss! Any common sense seems to go right over your head. I feel like everyone else that this act was wrong and inexcusable on all levels. What I strongly disagree with is how you and allot of other self-hating hipocrytes (especially those who are oppressed and demeaned and treated like shit in mainstream simple because they are ts/tv) have turned this in to an assault against all black people. According to your theory and thinking,,,ALL men with the same SKIN COLOR as your uncle, father or brother who molested, stuck objects up your ass and treated you like a piece of shit are animals, rapist, thugs, etc. YET,,Ironically but not conincidence,,they are 99.9 percent of the clientle you fuck and let fuck you in the ass. Now aint that a Bitch!!!

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

Once again your ignorance is bliss! Any common sense seems to go right over your head. I feel like everyone else that this act was wrong and inexcusable on all levels. What I strongly disagree with is how you and allot of other self-hating hipocrytes (especially those who are oppressed and demeaned and treated like shit in mainstream simple because they are ts/tv) have turned this in to an assault against all black people. According to your theory and thinking,,,ALL men with the same SKIN COLOR as your uncle, father or brother who molested, stuck objects up your ass and treated you like a piece of shit are animals, rapist, thugs, etc. YET,,Ironically but not conincidence,,they are 99.9 percent of the clientle you fuck and let fuck you in the ass. Now aint that a Bitch!!!

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That person doesn't have the intelligence to comprehend what you wrote. Ironically, only monkeys may actually have success in having a conversation with her.

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

once again your ignorance is bliss! Any common sense seems to go right over your head. I feel like everyone else that this act was wrong and inexcusable on all levels. What i strongly disagree with is how you and allot of other self-hating hipocrytes (especially those who are oppressed and demeaned and treated like shit in mainstream simple because they are ts/tv) have turned this in to an assault against all black people. According to your theory and thinking,,,all men with the same skin color as your uncle, father or brother who molested, stuck objects up your ass and treated you like a piece of shit are animals, rapist, thugs, etc. Yet,,ironically but not conincidence,,they are 99.9 percent of the clientle you fuck and let fuck you in the ass. Now aint that a bitch!!!

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lol i just love getting you revved lol

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

that person doesn't have the intelligence to comprehend what you wrote. Ironically, only monkeys may actually have success in having a conversation with her.

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does that mean your black lol poor bastard

For all the white tgirls or even their admirers, if you don't believe what Lisa says is true, then come to baltimore where I live and take a walk around Monroe st and North Ave or on the east side on Madison St and Greenmount. Go to theses areas and see for yourself if it is only a small minority of black people who commit hate towards others. I feel this is the best way to learn first hand on exactly how many people will harm, how many people will stand by and watch and how many people will laugh as you get beaten. It is no good sitting in a safe area and speak your minds,, you gotta come here and see for yourself how bad the hate really is and how it is a lot of black people and not a few like you'd like to believe.

I wouldn't use the words Lisa uses but she is correct in her thinking.

Oh,,by the way,, I have been called a racist many times, it doesn't bother me, just like being called fagot doesn't bother me,, they are just words.

But the true test for non believing tgirls is to come to Baltimore and see first hand how you will be treated by black people. Oh, by the way, make sure you wear a hidden camera so we all can see you get beaten up like the poor girl did in Mcdonalds.

If it wasn't for the few white red necks living in Baltimore this place would really be a dump.

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Originally Posted by yvonne183

for all the white tgirls or even their admirers, if you don't believe what lisa says is true, then come to baltimore where i live and take a walk around monroe st and north ave or on the east side on madison st and greenmount. Go to theses areas and see for yourself if it is only a small minority of black people who commit hate towards others. I feel this is the best way to learn first hand on exactly how many people will harm, how many people will stand by and watch and how many people will laugh as you get beaten. It is no good sitting in a safe area and speak your minds,, you gotta come here and see for yourself how bad the hate really is and how it is a lot of black people and not a few like you'd like to believe.

I wouldn't use the words lisa uses but she is correct in her thinking.

Oh,,by the way,, i have been called a racist many times, it doesn't bother me, just like being called fagot doesn't bother me,, they are just words.

But the true test for non believing tgirls is to come to baltimore and see first hand how you will be treated by black people. Oh, by the way, make sure you wear a hidden camera so we all can see you get beaten up like the poor girl did in mcdonalds.

If it wasn't for the few white red necks living in baltimore this place would really be a dump.

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very well said little woman,when i try and make a point i am extremely blunt just so my point gets across and it works everytime lol.im not racist im a bigot thers no denying that i am white the supreme race and am extremely proad of it.when blacks wanna be treated as my equill then they better wake the fuck up and stop the bullshit.and to make it crystal fucking clear i hate anybody and everybody who disrespects me and my sisters no matter what colour they are.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

where do blacks get off thinking there above trans and gays like give your heads a shake people last time i checked white folks used to own blacks so how is it they think there better?fuckin idiots.its shamefull and discuting white people rarely act like animals but blacks seem to have wrote the book on it.

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Oh Lise… that’s just the sort of generalization I was talking about. Sure, some black people behave like animals, but there are many who don’t and tarring them all with the same brush isn’t gonna help anyone…

And as others have already pointed out on this thread, there are also plenty of whites that behave like animals too. Like this little scumbag, for example:

How does one stamp a gay man to death???


I agree with ys Tra,, it is not all black people but I do stand by my words that it isn't a few bad apples like one wants to believe, here in baltimore it is a lot more than just a few bad apples.

Oh,, did they mean stomped?

And I agree again, this girl should do heavy jail time,,, no sympathy from me,, but the thugs in Baltimore also don't spend much time in jail if any time at all.

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Originally Posted by TJ347

I'd like to know what numbers you're referencing, as I know I've personally never received a survey inquiring as to my opinion on gays and transsexuals or my tendency toward violence. If you, as a self-hating black man, get these surveys where the rest of us don't, clearly you don't get them because you're black or a man.

I also haven't seen a single person participating in this thread, white, black or other, who has even remotely implied that the actions taken by these fools was appropriate on any level, so I'm not sure where you're seeing "negroes" coming up with excuses or refusing to denounce violence. Altogether then, you've done nothing but make yourself look a fool by bringing your self-loathing into a thread that wasn't even remotely about you, so if that was your goal as opposed to offering something of value to the discussion, congratulations, Uncle Ruckus.

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I dont hate myself I hate those baboons that beat that girl.
Like I said.....Blacks are violent and support violence.
There is ALWAYS an excuse presented to explain why some incident happened.
You know it kind of funny...when the shoe is on the other foot its ALWAYS about race.
But when blacks are the aggressors its never about race.
The so-called blacks that are on this board very rarely denounce these incidents in strong terms.
The denunciation is always tepid and there is always a "but" in there and its very meek and mild.
Or they dont say anything at all.
At some point you are going to have to admit THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM.
I call it like I see it.

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Originally Posted by tralika

oh lise… that’s just the sort of generalization i was talking about. Sure, some black people behave like animals, but there are many who don’t and tarring them all with the same brush isn’t gonna help anyone…

and as others have already pointed out on this thread, there are also plenty of whites that behave like animals too. Like this little scumbag, for example:

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im not saying all black guys are animals lol but it seems pretty clear to me that whenever i turn the news on at 11 its always black guys who shoot and kill people on a nightly basic but im thinkin its our governments way of gun control we give them to blacks and watch them shoot each other it may sound silly but its closer to the truth then you think.

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Originally Posted by solitary brother

i dont hate myself i hate those baboons that beat that girl.
Like i said.....blacks are violent and support violence.
There is always an excuse presented to explain why some incident happened.
You know it kind of funny...when the shoe is on the other foot its always about race.
But when blacks are the aggressors its never about race.
The so-called blacks that are on this board very rarely denounce these incidents in strong terms.
The denunciation is always tepid and there is always a "but" in there and its very meek and mild.
Or they dont say anything at all.
At some point you are going to have to admit that there is a problem.
I call it like i see it.

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wtf?your black?naaaaaaaaaaaa

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

How does one stamp a gay man to death???


I agree with ys Tra,, it is not all black people but I do stand by my words that it isn't a few bad apples like one wants to believe, here in baltimore it is a lot more than just a few bad apples.

Oh,, did they mean stomped?

And I agree again, this girl should do heavy jail time,,, no sympathy from me,, but the thugs in Baltimore also don't spend much time in jail if any time at all.

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Yeah, she stomped his head and kicked it in.

I understand what you’re saying about people in Baltimore though. Move to some place nicer if you can!

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

im not saying all black guys are animals lol but it seems pretty clear to me that whenever i turn the news on at 11 its always black guys who shoot and kill people on a nightly basic but im thinkin its our governments way of gun control we give them to blacks and watch them shoot each other it may sound silly but its closer to the truth then you think.

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That is also why some people say that most Planned parenthood buildings are in poor black areas, for easy convenience to abortions. Just a conspiracy type of thing, don't know how true that is.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

im not saying all black guys are animals lol but it seems pretty clear to me that whenever i turn the news on at 11 its always black guys who shoot and kill people on a nightly basic but im thinkin its our governments way of gun control we give them to blacks and watch them shoot each other it may sound silly but its closer to the truth then you think.

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It all depends on where you live. Over here there are lots of black people and white people committing the murders on the news.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

thats the first thing i saw.i say we ship them back to haiti and bring back slavery fuck em these idiots are animals and if you dont like my attitude then look in the mirrer and shape up for fucks sakes.

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I never argue with the mentally disabled.

Wow, I didn't realize John Vernon was into tgirls... ;)

(Oh well, at least Dean will get it...)

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Originally Posted by traLika

Yeah, she stomped his head and kicked it in.

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No! Not that precious little snowflake... That would put Lisa in the position of having to backpedal on her "ship 'em back to Haiti" and "bring back slavery" comments! Buck up though, Lisa. I'm familiar enough with this story to know there was a black guy involved and he got considerably more time. Hell, being an animal and all, he probably made the poor, innocent, little white girl stomp that guy to death against her will... Or at least I'm sure that's what you and the imbecile who started this thread will run with.

You know Lisa, you're as bad as Ashley George with your racist bullshit, and particularly with how easily you descend into it. Actually, she's better than you in that respect, as she isn't in the uniquely hypocritical position of behaving worse than an animal while deeming other people to be animals. No, I haven't forgotten the vid wherein you pissed on your own face and licked it up off the floor. Even my dogs have never done that shit, and they actually are animals. Pathetic.

white people commit crimes, too so it's okay :) let's sweep this under the rug. If you don't agree with the attack, you're being intolerant

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Originally Posted by Yvonne183

For all the white tgirls or even their admirers, if you don't believe what Lisa says is true, then come to baltimore where I live and take a walk around Monroe st and North Ave or on the east side on Madison St and Greenmount. Go to theses areas and see for yourself if it is only a small minority of black people who commit hate towards others. I feel this is the best way to learn first hand on exactly how many people will harm, how many people will stand by and watch and how many people will laugh as you get beaten. It is no good sitting in a safe area and speak your minds,, you gotta come here and see for yourself how bad the hate really is and how it is a lot of black people and not a few like you'd like to believe.

I wouldn't use the words Lisa uses but she is correct in her thinking.

Oh,,by the way,, I have been called a racist many times, it doesn't bother me, just like being called fagot doesn't bother me,, they are just words.

But the true test for non believing tgirls is to come to Baltimore and see first hand how you will be treated by black people. Oh, by the way, make sure you wear a hidden camera so we all can see you get beaten up like the poor girl did in Mcdonalds.

If it wasn't for the few white red necks living in Baltimore this place would really be a dump.

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I previously hesitated to say it, but even with the few white rednecks living in Baltimore, it's a fucking dump and has been for quite some time. The crime is ridiculous there, and the largely black population are the biggest perpetrators of it. People are ignorant and rude as hell for the most part, from my experience, and I personally feel my life is in danger in many parts of Baltimore, if not most parts. However, none of this validates anything Lisa said, and certainly not her reasoning.

Let's investigate your reasoning though, Yvonne: Baltimore is so fucking bad, and yet you're still there. People leave Middle Eastern and African shitholes for a better life elsewhere, yet you can't leave Baltimore. No, all you can do is make suppositions about an entire group of people because you lack the common sense to remove yourself from a fucking shithole city. What's the problem? Do you need a train ticket or bus pass? I'll donate the fucking money, if it will wisen your ass the fuck up. Recognize the part your own fucked up decisions play in the situation you find yourself in and stop blaming black people or whoever else is convenient for your problems. Or not. You can stay whining in that shithole and rot for all I care; I myself wouldn't ever go back to Baltimore or anywhere else I felt so threatened if I were you, but then I have sense enough to understand that I can leave a city and go to another one. There's a little clue for you in there somewhere...

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Originally Posted by Solitary Brother

I dont hate myself I hate those baboons that beat that girl.
Like I said.....Blacks are violent and support violence.
There is ALWAYS an excuse presented to explain why some incident happened.
You know it kind of funny...when the shoe is on the other foot its ALWAYS about race.
But when blacks are the aggressors its never about race.
The so-called blacks that are on this board very rarely denounce these incidents in strong terms.
The denunciation is always tepid and there is always a "but" in there and its very meek and mild.
Or they dont say anything at all.
At some point you are going to have to admit THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM.
I call it like I see it.

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As no one, black, white or other has supported the violence the woman in question experienced or tried to excuse it, nor have you seen fit to find fault with characterizations of yourself as a black person as a subhuman degenerate by a racist loser, a self-professed white supremacist transsexual, and a misguided bigot who can't find her way out of a town wherein she's not safe... I call ruckus and keep it moving. You're the worst kind of black person, worse even than the scumbags discussed in this thread.

Baltimore City is Mostly black but Baltimore County is about 75% white and there are way more than a few rednecks living there. Baltimore city is not part of Baltimore County