WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange handed himself in to British police

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

this guy is a prick period have you seen him talk?hes nothin but an arrogent piece of shit with an accent.what makes you think we need to hear what people are saying?how would you like it if we listened in to your conversations and then put them on the net for your wife and family to see?id bet you would be so pissed wouldnt you?you people seem to think because we elect people into office that we have a right to know whats said behind closed doors i think not we the people are on a need to know bacis period.if that happened in canada and he posted personal info on me i could and would have him charged as we have a law in affect that doesnt allow anybody without written consent tp publish any personal info its called the privacy act.

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Where do you get this shit from?
So now he deserves to be killed just because you judge him as a prick with an accent?
These were public officials using government computers. It's completely different.
Maybe you need to read what the Canadian Privacy Act is, as you have a completely different understanding of it, to what it seems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_%28Canada%29

It's doesn't seem to have anything to do with the publishing of personal information, which I'd assume if it was truthful, the media could do (otherwise, how would we have any news).

For someone who excels at being different you have a very limited tolerance for anybody who is different from you - or their points of view.

I don't think the government should be able to classify anything "secret" unless they can show evidence that the people they claim shouldn't know about it don't already know about it.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Where do you get this shit from?
So now he deserves to be killed just because you judge him as a prick with an accent?
These were public officials using government computers. It's completely different.
Maybe you need to read what the Canadian Privacy Act is, as you have a completely different understanding of it, to what it seems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_%28Canada%29

It's doesn't seem to have anything to do with the publishing of personal information, which I'd assume if it was truthful, the media could do (otherwise, how would we have any news).

For someone who excels at being different you have a very limited tolerance for anybody who is different from you - or their points of view.

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no i dont exel at being different it comes natually lol i dont see how you can like this guy i just dont get it?we all have choices in our lives and we have to live with them,i believe what he did was wrong period i would think that you are a good judge of character but this guy?just because i believe in vigialanties and an eye for an eye doesnt mean im hatefull so get that straight everyone that knows me absolutly adores me for my heart my passion and pure unselfishness so for you to say the world would be alot less hatefull if i werent in the world well thats so far from the truth its pathetic tell that to my kids friends and family that and they would tell you your off your rocker.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

no i dont exel at being different it comes natually lol i dont see how you can like this guy i just dont get it?we all have choices in our lives and we have to live with them,i believe what he did was wrong period i would think that you are a good judge of character but this guy?just because i believe in vigialanties and an eye for an eye doesnt mean im hatefull so get that straight everyone that knows me absolutly adores me for my heart my passion and pure unselfishness so for you to say the world would be alot less hatefull if i werent in the world well thats so far from the truth its pathetic tell that to my kids friends and family that and they would tell you your off your rocker.

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Julian Assange could be a rapist. Sure. There's a possibility. I have no idea. But, at present, he hasn't been charged with anything. So, if he's charged with rape, well, then there will be a trial. And if he is found guilty then he should be thrown in a cage....
And to quote Glenn Greenwald once again: "WikiLeaks has never been charged with a crime, let alone indicted for one or convicted of one."
And Greenwald further writes: "A consensus of legal experts agree that prosecuting the organization or Julian Assange for any of its leaks would be difficult in the extreme."
And, too, why don't we prosecute the Guardian or the N.Y. Times for publishing the material??????

Will WikiLeaks escape Justice?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/45843.html

When Interpol Cares about Sexual Assault

by Laura Flanders
Julian Assange turned himself in Tuesday -- he's been arrested and is being held without bail in London ahead of a hearing on extradition to Sweden. The head of the "stateless" news-leak organization WikiLeaks is accused of sexual assault --and let's be clear, he should face the charges. But since when is Interpol [the investigative arm of the International Criminal Court at The Hague] so vigilant about violence against women? If women's security is suddenly Interpol's priority -- that's big news!
Tell it to hundreds of women in US jails and immigration detention centers -- who charge that they can't get justice against accused rapists -- or women in the US military (two of out three of whom allege they've experienced assault.) In Haiti hundreds of unprosecuted cases of rape in refugee camps could use some of Interpol's attention.
To come back to earth... It seems we only care about women's bodies when there's a political point to be proved. Feminist lawyers had to fight for years for the Criminal Court to take rape in Bosnia and Congo seriously. Feminist journalists wrote for years about the treatment of women under the Taliban, but it wasn't until they needed to sell a war that US politicians cared--and invaded.
Years later, Assange's organization ever-so-inconveniently leaked thousands of Afghan war logs and diplomatic cables about that war, and women's bodies are again the pretext for action.
So yes, if Assange is accused of assault, he should face charges. So should football players (professional and college), politicians, film directors, and everyday Joes.
But until some of those others start getting scooped up by Interpol and extradited, let's not pretend that this is the dawning of a brave new era in sexual assault prosecution, shall we?

And Alex Jones. Not really a fan but he's entertaining and comical...

YouTube - Alex Jones & Wayne Madsen - Wikileaks founder Julian Assange Set Up By CIA Operative!

YouTube - Wikileaks and the Diplomacy of Secrecy

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

no i dont exel at being different it comes natually lol i dont see how you can like this guy i just dont get it?we all have choices in our lives and we have to live with them,i believe what he did was wrong period i would think that you are a good judge of character but this guy?just because i believe in vigialanties and an eye for an eye doesnt mean im hatefull so get that straight everyone that knows me absolutly adores me for my heart my passion and pure unselfishness so for you to say the world would be alot less hatefull if i werent in the world well thats so far from the truth its pathetic tell that to my kids friends and family that and they would tell you your off your rocker.

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Julian Assange's family may say the same about him.
You are hateful, you are calling for the death of someone whom you no little about, you've heard a few soundbytes of. Your attacks on anyone whose disagreed with you on this, show your venom towards it.

Whether I'm a good judge of character or not is irrelevant. He has yet to break the law (apart from the rape charges which even you must admit seem dodgy to say the least) and as I've stated before - just because you disagree with what Wikileaks has done, it doesn't mean it's illegal. You also seem to think that with Assange dead, there woudn't be any more leaks.

The only people I know who believe in an eye for an eye are crazy religious fanatics and I wouldn't have put you in that bunch. Most people other than those, try to see the facts before making such unwarranted statements that somebody should be assasinated for freedom of speach.

So....only 4 years for 3 different degrees of rape????


Side note: Even if they are made up allegations, only 4 fricken years???? thats it????

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Julian Assange's family may say the same about him.
You are hateful, you are calling for the death of someone whom you no little about, you've heard a few soundbytes of. Your attacks on anyone whose disagreed with you on this, show your venom towards it.

Whether I'm a good judge of character or not is irrelevant. He has yet to break the law (apart from the rape charges which even you must admit seem dodgy to say the least) and as I've stated before - just because you disagree with what Wikileaks has done, it doesn't mean it's illegal. You also seem to think that with Assange dead, there woudn't be any more leaks.

The only people I know who believe in an eye for an eye are crazy religious fanatics and I wouldn't have put you in that bunch. Most people other than those, try to see the facts before making such unwarranted statements that somebody should be assasinated for freedom of speach.

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im pretty sure im not a fanatic exept my leafs of course im not religeous and i do believe in freedom of speech nut last i checked he aint speaking and never did so this has nothing to do with freedom of speach period,he leaked private government documents not knowing what was in them nor caring whats in them and hes not done yet,we both know what he did was extemely wrong period who pointed him judge and jury of what we need to know and see?i doubt i can change anyones mind in here nor do i care but as long as people see him as a hero ill keep posting in realitty hes no robin hood hes a snake plain and simple.if ya wanna talk fanatics that would be his followers you know the hackers who took down visa and mastercard

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

im pretty sure im not a fanatic exept my leafs of course im not religeous and i do believe in freedom of speech nut last i checked he aint speaking and never did so this has nothing to do with freedom of speach period,he leaked private government documents not knowing what was in them nor caring whats in them and hes not done yet,we both know what he did was extemely wrong period who pointed him judge and jury of what we need to know and see?i doubt i can change anyones mind in here nor do i care but as long as people see him as a hero ill keep posting in realitty hes no robin hood hes a snake plain and simple.if ya wanna talk fanatics that would be his followers you know the hackers who took down visa and mastercard

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BUT ... you are a fanatic! You're no different from fanatical Muslims calling for the death of someone for speaking out about Mohammed or fanatical Christians calling for abortion doctors to be murdered. How can't you see the difference?

He HAS NOT leaks anything. Wikileaks has published documents that was given to them the same as many newspapers have. This has been told to you time and time again, yet you are refusing to listen. He is no different from any journalist and deserves the same protection.

What's a snake? Seriously, where do you come up with this stuff?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

BUT ... you are a fanatic! You're no different from fanatical Muslims calling for the death of someone for speaking out about Mohammed or fanatical Christians calling for abortion doctors to be murdered. How can't you see the difference?

He HAS NOT leaks anything. Wikileaks has published documents that was given to them the same as many newspapers have. This has been told to you time and time again, yet you are refusing to listen. He is no different from any journalist and deserves the same protection.

What's a snake? Seriously, where do you come up with this stuff?

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you crazy fucker lol where do i come up with what? im pretty sure you know what a snake is right?tell me something do you believe assange is only the guy who puts it on the net?he was in possesion of stolen government secret documents and that doesnt make him an accompliss?

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

you crazy fucker lol where do i come up with what? im pretty sure you know what a snake is right?tell me something do you believe assange is only the guy who puts it on the net?he was in possesion of stolen government secret documents and that doesnt make him an accompliss?

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I'm with you Lisa! And frankly this would leave me very suspicious of seanchai (Steven), an individual I would trust with a wooden nickel.

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Originally Posted by CORVETTEDUDE

I'm with you Lisa! And frankly this would leave me very suspicious of seanchai (Steven), an individual I would trust with a wooden nickel.

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ya i dont get seanchais stance on this period expecially coming from somebody who owns his own companies just makes me shake my head.i must confess i do like him but even more i like aerguing with him lol but hey the way i look at it is its just opinions when i call people out for being on opposite sides as me i always say fuckin idiot lol i dont mean anything by it its just a phrase i use all the time ya whatever those who know me know this so its no big deal but guys like seanchai take things abit too deep and calling for death as well as bellas is alittle bit much not much class as i see it.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

ya i dont get seanchais stance on this period expecially coming from somebody who owns his own companies just makes me shake my head.i must confess i do like him but even more i like aerguing with him lol but hey the way i look at it is its just opinions when i call people out for being on opposite sides as me i always say fuckin idiot lol i dont mean anything by it its just a phrase i use all the time ya whatever those who know me know this so its no big deal but guys like seanchai take things abit too deep and calling for death as well as bellas is alittle bit much not much class as i see it.

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Comma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by dlbi22

comma - wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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well the idiot from new york has to chime in lol what a tart

Real journalism is straight from the source, and this is what he does -lest we forget. Even more: docs are left to the interpretation of those who read them, point blank.


So now we hear these are diplomatic secrets? Talk about a white wash. I am glad he revealed it all. As for the rapes, if he did, I hope he rots in hell. But I admire his actions, I don't care about the man, he is flesh and bones and will be treated such as.

There's no actual "rape" charge. Apparently, in Sweden, it's sexual misconduct with the first chick because the rubber broke & he went off with the other chick without permission. & it's sexual abuse with the second chick because he didn't put on another rubber when they woke up in the morning & fucked again. When the two got together & compared notes, they decided he needed some come-uppins. The female prosecutor agreed, but she had to reconfigure the charges after they got tossed out the first time. This is why you should never ever ever ever ever ever ever fuck a man hater, regardless of how good she looks or how much she claims to want it. (Ever see "my super ex-girlfriend" or "fatal attraction"?) I don't know. Maybe his dick's just too short. He is Australian after all. He's going to have to pick his groupies better.

From what I hear, the Brits are already telling the Swedes that they'd better have something more before extradition is even considered.

I have to change my opinion on this slightly.

While I agree that these documents should be released for both legal and moral reasons, it's the lack of training in and understanding of journalistic principals and standards that dictates that what Assange did should be legal under the First Amendment, but morally questionable at best. The difference between how these documents would likely be handled by a mainstream news source versus Wikileaks is abundantly clear to me. The Wall Street Journal, for example, would have released the information without all of the grandstanding and self-adulation and with more integrity. But on the other hand still, the mainstream media is under tighter control than were the secrets themselves.

Such a mess.

... and when did Steven call for my death? We can't stand each other but I'd like to think we prefer each other alive. :confused:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

I have to change my opinion on this slightly.

While I agree that these documents should be released for both legal and moral reasons, it's the lack of training in and understanding of journalistic principals and standards that dictates that what Assange did should be legal under the First Amendment, but morally questionable at best. The difference between how these documents would likely be handled by a mainstream news source versus Wikileaks is abundantly clear to me. The Wall Street Journal, for example, would have released the information without all of the grandstanding and self-adulation and with more integrity. But on the other hand still, the mainstream media is under tighter control than were the secrets themselves.

Such a mess.

... and when did Steven call for my death? We can't stand each other but I'd like to think we prefer each other alive. :confused:

~BB~

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Great - maybe we'd get lucky and the two of you would take each other out and make the world a lighter and less hateful place! :praying: a qoute from your friend seanchai

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

Great - maybe we'd get lucky and the two of you would take each other out and make the world a lighter and less hateful place! :praying: a qoute from your friend seanchai

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Oh, that's right. I remember that. What an asshole. :lol:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by CORVETTEDUDE

I'm with you Lisa! And frankly this would leave me very suspicious of seanchai (Steven), an individual I would trust with a wooden nickel.

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Hahahha, still bitter Corvette? I wouldn't take a nickel off you.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

....I'd like to think we prefer each other alive. :confused:

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:praying:

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

you crazy fucker lol where do i come up with what? im pretty sure you know what a snake is right?tell me something do you believe assange is only the guy who puts it on the net?he was in possesion of stolen government secret documents and that doesnt make him an accompliss?

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Where do you come up with the shit you keep coming out with?

No I don't believe that Assange is the guy who puts it on the net - do you? As that's what it seems like, he's running around with a briefcase full of secrets.
Go read a newspaper, Lisa.

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

ya i dont get seanchais stance on this period expecially coming from somebody who owns his own companies just makes me shake my head.i must confess i do like him but even more i like aerguing with him lol but hey the way i look at it is its just opinions when i call people out for being on opposite sides as me i always say fuckin idiot lol i dont mean anything by it its just a phrase i use all the time ya whatever those who know me know this so its no big deal but guys like seanchai take things abit too deep and calling for death as well as bellas is alittle bit much not much class as i see it.

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What does owning a company have to do with this? I don't get where you are coming from - it has no bearing?

I take things too deep? You called for a guy to be murdered by the government (or by anyone) for publishing some fairly un-interesting emails. How facist is that?

I'm happy for you to disagree with his reasons, or your opinion of him - I haven't argued about that merely refuted your ridiculous, ill-informed points and fanatical views. You haven't needed much help on making yourself look both ridiculous or fanatical.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Where do you come up with the shit you keep coming out with?

No I don't believe that Assange is the guy who puts it on the net - do you? As that's what it seems like, he's running around with a briefcase full of secrets.
Go read a newspaper, Lisa.

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lol he owns the freakin site that makes him responsable does it not?

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Originally Posted by seanchai

What does owning a company have to do with this? I don't get where you are coming from - it has no bearing?

I take things too deep? You called for a guy to be murdered by the government (or by anyone) for publishing some fairly un-interesting emails. How facist is that?

I'm happy for you to disagree with his reasons, or your opinion of him - I haven't argued about that merely refuted your ridiculous, ill-informed points and fanatical views. You haven't needed much help on making yourself look both ridiculous or fanatical.

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lol oh be nice lol its christmas damn it how does it make me like a fanatic?cause i want him dead?the same as you want me and bella dead?isnt that the same think but worse?where do you come up with this?being an owner of several shemale sites ya think you would be alittle more civil but your hatred and complete lack of respect towards me only shows how irresponsable you are period.

Hey, that's my name!!! :party:
Not that it matters. Poor thing..

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

being an owner of several shemale sites ya think you would be alittle more civil but your hatred and complete lack of respect towards me only shows how irresponsable you are period.

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You finally understand the ways of the Force. The Jedi Knights continue to grow in number. ;)

Presenting a gift from a friend on Vicki Richter's board:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BritneyBoykins

Hey, that's my name!!! :party:
Not that it matters. Poor thing..

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Doesn't he totally look like Bill Maher in that pic? :lol:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by lisaparadise

lol oh be nice lol its christmas damn it how does it make me like a fanatic?cause i want him dead?the same as you want me and bella dead?isnt that the same think but worse?where do you come up with this?being an owner of several shemale sites ya think you would be alittle more civil but your hatred and complete lack of respect towards me only shows how irresponsable you are period.

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Calling for someone's death because they're doing something you don't believe in ... isn't fanatical !?! - and don't make that snipe I had in response to a Bella Belugosi post, the same thing, as you know it's not.

I don't have hatred towards you - and as a model, I respect you - and enjoyed meeting you but in this regard, you are correct I have no respect for someone calling for another's death. My being a site owner - and you being a model shouldn't have any bearing on this discussion. If we were talking about transexual, porn, model, website topics - then it may be a different matter.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Doesn't he totally look like Bill Maher in that pic? :lol:

~BB~

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Yah there like twins! I wonder how we will look when we get older :jerkoff

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Originally Posted by BritneyBoykins

Yah there like twins! I wonder how we will look when we get older :jerkoff

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OK good, so I'm not the only one who finds Bill Maher strangely attractive. :jerkoff :lol:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

You finally understand the ways of the Force. The Jedi Knights continue to grow in number. ;)

Presenting a gift from a friend on Vicki Richter's board:

~BB~

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God almighty, someone actually thought you were like Princess Leia. The humanity!

This is closer to it ... and with you, it is the ways of the Farce!

http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content...spaceballs.jpg

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Originally Posted by seanchai

I don't have hatred towards you - and as a model, I respect you - and enjoyed meeting you but in this regard, you are correct I have no respect for someone calling for another's death. My being a site owner - and you being a model shouldn't have any bearing on this discussion. If we were talking about transexual, porn, model, website topics - then it may be a different matter.

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http://superawesomecrazyman.com/links/DMD.jpg

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Originally Posted by seanchai

God almighty, someone actually thought you were like Princess Leia. The humanity!

This is closer to it ... and with you, it is the ways of the Farce!

http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content...spaceballs.jpg

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Touche! A point for you, sir. :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

OK good, so I'm not the only one who finds Bill Maher strangely attractive. :jerkoff :lol:

~BB~

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Yah' I was going to say that too!!! He's sexy here & there. I LOVE older men :dancing:

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Calling for someone's death because they're doing something you don't believe in ... isn't fanatical !?! - and don't make that snipe I had in response to a Bella Belugosi post, the same thing, as you know it's not.

I don't have hatred towards you - and as a model, I respect you - and enjoyed meeting you but in this regard, you are correct I have no respect for someone calling for another's death. My being a site owner - and you being a model shouldn't have any bearing on this discussion. If we were talking about transexual, porn, model, website topics - then it may be a different matter.

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im pretty sure your forgetting the fact that you represent grooby and you knocking any tgirl isnt right period.i want him dead as do alot of others and you know it.ya think there government officials dont want him dead?come on you know better then that.

lisa is a dope

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Originally Posted by dlbi22

lisa is a dope

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Troll, there's an ignore feature here. Use it. :roll:

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BritneyBoykins

Yah' I was going to say that too!!! He's sexy here & there. I LOVE older men :dancing:

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The movie Maher made called Religulous is frickin' good.