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Originally Posted by jcinva

As this board is testament to, there's a small, perverse, but devoted niche for transsexual porn.

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Actually I think the numbers are quite high. As i recall it's the fastest growing segment in porn.

Xian

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Originally Posted by shemale-411

I watched one girl who has done a couple of shoots, dog out someone who has made a very big name for herself. I'm old school, and that's not how you're gonna get ahead in this business.

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How do you know what works for me? Are you me? Are you a model/porn star? I didn't think so, so let me worry about my own marketing thanks. I'll be more than happy to listen to you when you figure out what the hell you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by shemale-411

That same girl who has made a couple shoots busted the website owners balls everytime they showed themselves here to post her photoshoot, yet is dogging the "made" girl for promoting herself. That was just sheer hypocrisy, and it stank of jealousy.

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Jealous? Why? Because everyone around here assumes that jealousy is the emotion that motivates all transwomen? I wouldn't even know for WHAT to be jealous of Danielle. You keep saying I'm jealous simply because I argued with her, but you never provide one shred of evidence that I feel unable to obtain (or haven't already obtained at one point in my life) anything she has or has had. I generally get what I want and this is no exception. No jealousy required.

I'm 'dogging' Danielle because she's squandering opportunities to make things better for transsexuals. If she's as popular and as powerful in the industry as she wants everyone to believe, she should prove it. The truth is, GG's in porn have only been ostracized for doing porn (and it's becoming more acceptable almost daily especially in the current economic climate), not for 'not really being women.' Porn doesn't make anybody more of less of a woman and it's not shameful. What's shameful is when one is completely unapologetic (and even blames the critics) when they perpetuate negative terminology after they've gone through SRS and had opportunities to change it. Being paraded on national TV to be called a man under a fake name that does your business no good isn't exactly praiseworthy either.

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Originally Posted by shemale-411

As for dogging the "made" girl for not being activist, who do you think you are? You see how far you get being an activist and a hooker.

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If those of us involved in porn don't make it better, do you think anybody else will? The porn star/activist archetype is not only valid but necessary. Are you really too blind to see that? And all I'm asking for is an attempt at changing a few words used to describe us; I'm not trying to 'change transsexual porn' as much as I'm trying to push those with the ability to just make it a bit more respectable.

Do you really think guys will stop buying subscriptions just because they have to type 'transsexual' or 'ts' into a search engine instead of 'tranny' or 'shemale?' It wouldn't hurt business a bit and would be great for our social acceptance. As long as we hold ourselves out as freaks then that's how we'll continue to be seen.

And remember, the search engines catalog the internet, not the other way around. If enough producers change their terminology, then slowly over time, the fans WILL follow suit.

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Originally Posted by shemale-411

Knock yourself out hypocrit. If you hate the word shemale so much, make a stand and return the money you got from posing nude for all those "exploitative" sites using the word in their url. You are like a car salesman for Hummers who gets off work and protests for the environment, save it. Its your weak attempt to get some sort of attention.-

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See the comment above for my views on porn versus Maury - porn is meant to entice and daytime TV is meant to shock. I don't find anything shocking (or entertaining) about the struggles transwomen face. And for the last time - modelling for a site called ShemaleYum, etc is not the same thing as naming your site similarly when you could call it anything. When my site goes up, it's certainly not going to be called ShemaleBellaBellucci.com. If I ever change my mind, THEN you can call me a hypocrite.

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Originally Posted by shemale-411

At least the "made" girl acknowledges she's a sex worker, and promotes herself as one. She gives back to her fans, works hard promoting herself, and in return makes it easier for us webmasters to make a few bucks also. What are you contributing? Besides shitting on someone who has made a name for herself's day?

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Gives back to her fans? How so? What am I contributing? I'm trying to change the way people look at transsexuals both in and out of porn. Society creates a situation in which the adult business is by far the most viable work for transwomen (and at least it's honest) and other income options are more difficult to find than they otherwise would be if we were cisgendered (not to mention this nasty recession).

What's worse is that at the same time, guys like you are here acting like we should just be dumb, complacent airheads who fuck for a living and no more (like the girls in other countries who shoot for peanuts because they're largely uneducated on these issues and are even more desperate than we are). You're punishing the victims, no? Are you from the generation that felt that women should be seen and not heard? I might have done a shoot in a kitchen, but that doesn't mean all women belong there, so thanks for regressing us into the Stone Age Captain Caveman.

Being a sex worker doesn't mean you have to degrade yourself or others like you. It was a simple point before and simple point now... it's just lost on Danielle and as long as she keeps arguing the point, I'll argue back.

If any of this was personal for anyone, it was Danielle who went nuclear at the SLIGHTEST mention of her ex-boyfriend whom she claims was a secret but whom she also talked shit about on YouTube, so on top of Danielle being insecure and unstable, she doesn't even remember half of the things she does.

She seriously needs help. I'm not being facetious here. My opinion of her is that she's a nice person with a LOT of issues. If she chose to face them head on instead of ramming it down our throats that she's so much better than us (i.e. dancing naked on camera to derail the argument that she came into the chat room to start), I would support her completely.

~BB~

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Originally Posted by Bunzee

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

After a bit more thought I realized that I'm not quite done.

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Originally Posted by SexChangeTranny.com

You lost me, maybe I don't make you a lot of money, and maybe others will walk away eventually... so add all of that money and walla... You are left with a bunch of political feminists who want to change transsexual porm! Give me a fucking brake!

Enjoy the train wreck

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First of all you mean 'viola' and 'break.' BRILLIANT!

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its "voila"

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Yes, I know I typo'ed. You're the second person to tell me so. I never claimed to be perfect. Geesh.

I do appreciate the irony though. lol :oops:

~BB~

This forum is just like the real world. Assholes and drama queens everywhere*.

If you don't value someone's opinion, ignore him/her. I've never let some loser behind a keyboard ruin my day, because chances are they're 'heroes' behind the keyboard only.


* having read a couple of topics tonight, I'm convinced that there's a strong gravitational pull towards this site for idiots though.

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Originally Posted by phobun

You mean he's no longer pretending to be Lil' JWBL???

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Originally Posted by 2009AD

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Originally Posted by The Absolute Fuckin Truth

What happened to "what happens in chat stays in chat?!?"

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Come now. You have posted transcripts of chat convos here. :wink:

http://www.scheiny.com/gsxr/gsx-r600k7_m_black2.jpg

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@ 09 clean picture of a gsxr600-im saving it....but my bike was black and silvergsxr 750.-Regarding chat I have had my share of evil deeds now I try and not instigate it but watch carefully from a distance.

@phobun seriously dude Stop trying to have people like you, its not really helping you. Just saying...

And fyi-I have no idea who the poster truth is...As bella knows from when I told her the drama between her and Danielle are a one on one thing that escalated to a 2v1 when Danielle decided to bring kelly into it and it is for them as mature adults to finish on their own terms so believe me or not you can easily ask JW if the IPS match up or not which they will not match.

oops, my bad, nvm

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Originally Posted by jesseflo

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

lmao.........................................

when she was in the room laughing the whole time...........

Clint was making voices of every tgirl and we joined Danielle he made fun of my voice as well... they said I sound like a valley girl on helium and other comments. I don't care what they say to me it's hilarious thats the point of the room dear.*rolls eyes*

The chatroom is meant for jokes and laughter.....

PS. noone talked ill of Jesse only her choice to give out so many free pics...wasn't a good idea...

lol you are a pot stirrer...kind heart indeed lol

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well i would hope not since im always nice to everyone and certainly dont deserve to be made fun of. :cry: i give out so many "free" pics because my site is a total bomb and failure so it doesnt really hurt it. i do it for the fans.i like to share with them. :D

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And most of us here LOVE you for that! :grouphug

Yeah Jesse , that was a really nice thing you did. Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by BLKGSXR

And fyi-I have no idea who the poster truth is...As bella knows from when I told her the drama between her and Danielle are a one on one thing that escalated to a 2v1 when Danielle decided to bring kelly into it and it is for them as mature adults to finish on their own terms so believe me or not you can easily ask JW if the IPS match up or not which they will not match.

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Actually, since Danielle went off on Kelly on this thread too but could have done so to make it look like Kelly was innocent in all of this, her actual involvement remains to be seen. No matter - I've taken on plenty more than 2 people at a time on this forum. Kelly knows that so I really don't think she wants to be involved in this at all.

Incidentally, I came across a blog entry about my soon-to-be-released content on Strokers that describes me to a 'T' (no pun intended!) so it's nice to see that there are at least some people out there who know that I do what I do for a righteous cause that just DOES also happen to benefit me - much to the chagrin of my critics.

Quite the contrast from searching for fame by letting the world call me a man, huh?

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Originally Posted by ShemaleStrokersBlog

Sexy And Sassy Bella Bellucci Debuts On Bob’s Tgirls!

Posted on October 12th, 2009

Anyone like a healthy helping of ’sass’ with their Shemale ass? Then you’ll find the beautiful (it’s right there in her name!) TS Bella Bellucci very much to your liking! Here are a couple pictures of Bella posing for Bob’s Tgirls and generally doing some non-FDA approved activities on the counters!

Not that we mind of course! I’ve seen some discussions go back and forth between Bella Bellucci and some other poor soul on some of the TS Message Boards that dot the Internet and I can tell you, Bella has one sharp tongue that you do not want to be on the receiving end of! Sometimes humorous, sometimes witty, and most times controversial, Bella Bellucci is one of those Shemales who has gathered fans who both love to watch her stroke her cock AND dole out the strokes from her whip of a tongue!

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I'm still not liking the word 'shemale' but all in all, thank you to whoever wrote this. :)

~BB~

I would'nt mind receiving some tongue action from Bella. :twisted:

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Originally Posted by shemale-411

I don't usually get involved in this shit. But I was there last night, and it pretty much pissed me off/disgusted me. I watched one girl who has done a couple of shoots, dog out someone who has made a very big name for herself. I'm old school, and that's not how you're gonna get ahead in this business. And for that matter, there is a reason she's made a name for herself, she's hot, smart and gives the public what they want.

That same girl who has made a couple shoots busted the website owners balls everytime they showed themselves here to post her photoshoot, yet is dogging the "made" girl for promoting herself. That was just sheer hypocrisy, and it stank of jealousy. Honey, I've been involved in this for over a decade, and let me tell you something, Maury and Jerry's people scour Eros and such and call the girls, I'm sorry your phone doesn't ring.

As for dogging the "made" girl for not being activist, who do you think you are? You see how far you get being an activist and a hooker. Knock yourself out hypocrit. If you hate the word shemale so much, make a stand and return the money you got from posing nude for all those "exploitative" sites using the word in their url. You are like a car salesman for Hummers who gets off work and protests for the environment, save it. Its your weak attempt to get some sort of attention.

At least the "made" girl acknowledges she's a sex worker, and promotes herself as one. She gives back to her fans, works hard promoting herself, and in return makes it easier for us webmasters to make a few bucks also. What are you contributing? Besides shitting on someone who has made a name for herself's day?

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Now thats some REAL talk!

Damn, I gotta start hanging out in chat more often...

Danielle, I've been following your career long before HA and will continue to follow it after HA. That will never change. You're a STAR, baby, and will always have my respect. I wish you nothing but the best whether you post here or not.

Chat rooms are for low lifes.

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Originally Posted by Coroner

Chat rooms are for low lifes.

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And porn forums are for the sophisticated?

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Originally Posted by Dirky

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Originally Posted by Coroner

Chat rooms are for low lifes.

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And porn forums are for the sophisticated?

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No, for fags.

i actually quite like the name "shemale" thats what i use alot :) Its almost as good as the new one in england we are starting to use "faggotswithtits" :)

i give out so many "free" i do it for the fans.i like to share with them. :D[/quote]

Smartest and nicest thing ive heard yet!

bye

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Originally Posted by Quiet Reflections

bye

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I know you're not really leaving...

but if you are can I steal your avatar? ;)

~BB~

I was never against or for either. Bella knows that.

I told her I don't understand what she was trying to accomplish, I said that on the mic...while Danielle was in the room.

I also asked why the argument started. It's Danielle's life, her body, and if she wants to do porn still it's her choice. I don't see the big deal. But it's between those two.

I don't see the big issue....so she has a vagina now it doesn't mean she has to be a role model. Thats too much weight to put on any one person. Furthermore....in the end her doing porn may allow other girls to go more mainstream. You never know..so I wouldn't hinder her. I honestly wish her luck in all her endeavors.

I think porn is porn no matter what color you paint it or what you name it. There will always be people that wont find it socially accepting, and others that will. If you feel you are better doing porn than doing a show like Maury...then so be it. There are others that would disagree.

Now on the chatroom. The chatroom is meant for entertainment, laughs, and poking fun. That has been made clear many times. Danielle you were laughing and cutting up along side the rest of us. You got naked, stripped, and masterbated on camera having fun. You wanted you and I to dance to a hip hop song, but because I wasn't feeling well I couldn't. I think you twisted the situation to fit your own selfish desires of getting drama out of this...drama brings viewers...viewers bring sign ups. As Mimi said "hungry tiger"

If you can't laugh at yourself, who else are you going to laugh at? The chatroom is meant to be in good fun spirits. The guys make fun of girls, and we make fun back. I am sorry if you are so 'sensitive' which I am sure thats not true, but its what you like to portray. Pity lol

The argument is between you and Bella. I do not care either way what you do. I was only in there to laugh and have a good time. Not for drama. And I will contiue going in there when I have time..because I enjoy the people that go in there. They are funny, nice people. We all give each other a hard time. And yes we did make fun of Kimbers voice and yes we did make fun of Wendy's voice. WE...not I...And they also made fun of my voice, Jennifer Justices voice and many other girls...OEM has a voice changer and its just for laughs... And dear don't you remember when you could hear your own laugh and you were making fun of it...voices are funny. It was a joke...in good nature...good lord.

It's so silly to get offended over...IT's a Chatroom........especially when you were taken part in the festivities of the chatroom. Laughing, goofing off, making fun faces...and what not.

Sweet Kisses,

Kelly

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Originally Posted by NewAgain

i give out so many "free" i do it for the fans.i like to share with them. :D

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Smartest and nicest thing ive heard yet![/quote]

thanks! :D

Oh well I cant speak for Kimber but I sure the hell DONT care what anyone thinks of me or my voice. My career and life is amazing. It doesnt shock me anymore how people are, this business is full of wannabe's and two faced people. All I know is Im doing my own thing and surely wont allow people chase me away. So girls pick the flaws of others all you want but remember you have your own reflection to worry about.

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Originally Posted by SexChangeTranny.com

So it happens, another goodbye thread...

Another hateful handful of people run yet another girl out of the board. It's not as much as what I was put through the past few weeks but what I have witnessed in here...

1)Kimber James lips thread
2)Bella Bellucci's constant attacks and passive agreesive behavior
3) Chat room last night - Kelly Shore and Bella making fun of Wendy William's and Kimber Jame's voices, Jesse Flores

just to name a few...

I seriously am sad about all of this false sense of "community"

This is a porn forum. Guys come in here to look at naked chicks and get the latest website updates.

I come in here to give them that - not to be attacked and ridiculed for my choices to provide them with what they want to see.

I no longer chose for my name or my company's name to be associated with such low lifes who should have been banned quite a while ago and yet are allowed to run every single porn star and new girl out.

Many girls who used to post amazing pictures in here no longer post as often and that is because Bloggers with agendas are allowed to try and put us down.

Hypocrites!

This is definatly not the place for me. I have a heart and right now it is in serious disgust for all of the nasty shit I had to hear last night in that " chat room "

I urge the moderators to grab a hold of the situation, but then again... Did I not just get hung up on last night for demanding respect?

You lost me, maybe I don't make you a lot of money, and maybe others will walk away eventually... so add all of that money and walla... You are left with a bunch of political feminists who want to change transsexual porm! Give me a fucking brake!

Enjoy the train wreck

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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams

Oh well I cant speak for Kimber but I sure the hell DONT care what anyone thinks of me or my voice. My career and life is amazing. It doesnt shock me anymore how people are, this business is full of wannabe's and two faced people. All I know is Im doing my own thing and surely wont allow people chase me away. So girls pick the flaws of others all you want but remember you have your own reflection to worry about.

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Originally Posted by SexChangeTranny.com

So it happens, another goodbye thread...

Another hateful handful of people run yet another girl out of the board. It's not as much as what I was put through the past few weeks but what I have witnessed in here...

1)Kimber James lips thread
2)Bella Bellucci's constant attacks and passive agreesive behavior
3) Chat room last night - Kelly Shore and Bella making fun of Wendy William's and Kimber Jame's voices, Jesse Flores

just to name a few...

I seriously am sad about all of this false sense of "community"

This is a porn forum. Guys come in here to look at naked chicks and get the latest website updates.

I come in here to give them that - not to be attacked and ridiculed for my choices to provide them with what they want to see.

I no longer chose for my name or my company's name to be associated with such low lifes who should have been banned quite a while ago and yet are allowed to run every single porn star and new girl out.

Many girls who used to post amazing pictures in here no longer post as often and that is because Bloggers with agendas are allowed to try and put us down.

Hypocrites!

This is definatly not the place for me. I have a heart and right now it is in serious disgust for all of the nasty shit I had to hear last night in that " chat room "

I urge the moderators to grab a hold of the situation, but then again... Did I not just get hung up on last night for demanding respect?

You lost me, maybe I don't make you a lot of money, and maybe others will walk away eventually... so add all of that money and walla... You are left with a bunch of political feminists who want to change transsexual porm! Give me a fucking brake!

Enjoy the train wreck

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Again Wendy you misread...I was being picked on as well...*rolls eyes* it was just for laughs.......

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Jealous? Why? Because everyone around here assumes that jealousy is the emotion that motivates all transwomen? I wouldn't even know for WHAT to be jealous of Danielle.

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Hamlet, Act III, Scene II, Queen: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

She seriously needs help. I'm not being facetious here. My opinion of her is that she's a nice person with a LOT of issues.

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Henry VI, Act III, Scene III, King Henry VI: Forbear to judge, for we are sinners all.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

I'm still not liking the word 'shemale' but all in all, thank you to whoever wrote this. :)

~BB~

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Noted and changed :) Will be more careful in the future using the term in reference to you. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

I'm still not liking the word 'shemale' but all in all, thank you to whoever wrote this. :)

~BB~

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Noted and changed :) Will be more careful in the future using the term in reference to you. Thanks.

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Oh wow! Thank you. That's so sweet even though I wasn't really asking (lol). And I really do appreciate the writeup. :)

I'm not trying to make anybody's life more difficult. I just figure that change is slow moving and it has to start somewhere.

~BB~

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Originally Posted by BellaBellucci

Oh wow! Thank you. That's so sweet even though I wasn't really asking (lol). And I really do appreciate the writeup. :)

I'm not trying to make anybody's life more difficult. I just figure that change is slow moving and it has to start somewhere.

~BB~

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Not a problem at all. Took all of three seconds.

I typically try to keep up with the threads on the TS message boards but for some reason, seemed to miss yours regarding your dislike of the term, 'Shemale.' Otherwise I wouldn't have used it in the first place.

Carry on... sorry to take the thread off topic.

I don't know what going on with the intent of this thread, but I will add my little part: To put things in a larger perspective, everyone has some critics. Consider this: Jesus Christ is defined by some to be without sin, or perfect. Yet, he had enough critics in high places to be executed. He literally performed miracles, making blind people see, etc. Yet he was executed. So if he had his critics, who are we to expect that we won't have our own? So anything you can possibly do will garuntee that you won't have critics. The Phophet Muhammed has one billion people bowing down several times a day, because of his word, which they believe came directly from God (Allah), but he still has his haters. If we look at our own lives in comparison to larger things, we should chill from life's everyday controversies, and be thankful that we haven't yet been executed. We have another day to make things right, or better. what else can you ask for?

We can all agree that "there's always room for Jello" . :D

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Originally Posted by SexChangeTranny.com

So it happens, another goodbye thread...

Another hateful handful of people run yet another girl out of the board. It's not as much as what I was put through the past few weeks but what I have witnessed in here...

1)Kimber James lips thread
2)Bella Bellucci's constant attacks and passive agreesive behavior
3) Chat room last night - Kelly Shore and Bella making fun of Wendy William's and Kimber Jame's voices, Jesse Flores

just to name a few...

I seriously am sad about all of this false sense of "community"

This is a porn forum. Guys come in here to look at naked chicks and get the latest website updates.

I come in here to give them that - not to be attacked and ridiculed for my choices to provide them with what they want to see.

I no longer chose for my name or my company's name to be associated with such low lifes who should have been banned quite a while ago and yet are allowed to run every single porn star and new girl out.

Many girls who used to post amazing pictures in here no longer post as often and that is because Bloggers with agendas are allowed to try and put us down.

Hypocrites!

This is definatly not the place for me. I have a heart and right now it is in serious disgust for all of the nasty shit I had to hear last night in that " chat room "

I urge the moderators to grab a hold of the situation, but then again... Did I not just get hung up on last night for demanding respect?

You lost me, maybe I don't make you a lot of money, and maybe others will walk away eventually... so add all of that money and walla... You are left with a bunch of political feminists who want to change transsexual porm! Give me a fucking brake!

Enjoy the train wreck

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Originally Posted by SexChangeTranny.com

So it happens, another goodbye thread...

Another hateful handful of people run yet another girl out of the board. It's not as much as what I was put through the past few weeks but what I have witnessed in here...

1)Kimber James lips thread
2)Bella Bellucci's constant attacks and passive agreesive behavior
3) Chat room last night - Kelly Shore and Bella making fun of Wendy William's and Kimber Jame's voices, Jesse Flores

just to name a few...

I seriously am sad about all of this false sense of "community"

This is a porn forum. Guys come in here to look at naked chicks and get the latest website updates.

I come in here to give them that - not to be attacked and ridiculed for my choices to provide them with what they want to see.

I no longer chose for my name or my company's name to be associated with such low lifes who should have been banned quite a while ago and yet are allowed to run every single porn star and new girl out.

Many girls who used to post amazing pictures in here no longer post as often and that is because Bloggers with agendas are allowed to try and put us down.

Hypocrites!

This is definatly not the place for me. I have a heart and right now it is in serious disgust for all of the nasty shit I had to hear last night in that " chat room "

I urge the moderators to grab a hold of the situation, but then again... Did I not just get hung up on last night for demanding respect?

You lost me, maybe I don't make you a lot of money, and maybe others will walk away eventually... so add all of that money and walla... You are left with a bunch of political feminists who want to change transsexual porm! Give me a fucking brake!

Enjoy the train wreck

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