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please dont tell me you honestly believed that relationships work like the one with your grandmotherQuote:
Originally Posted by LG
be nice to them and you get a treat doesnt work in the real world and especially it doesnt work when it comes to sex
by all means be nice but people will pick up on you being nice only because you expect something in return
try my method be very nice to them and if you dont get any just quietly go on to the next one and when they see you with your next lady=priceless
try my method be very nice to them and if you dont get any just quietly go on to the next one and when they see you with your next lady=priceless
I really don't think you can say one is more or less complicated than the other,it depends on the individual and what they've been through in their lives.For me,I have serious issues with self esteem and confidence in my appearance whereas another girl might have trusts issues or hangups etc . . I don't consider myself "complicated" I guess because I'm not down with drama or jealousy issues and I know what I want but other times I can be a walking contradiction.I just want a guy who loves me both ways even thouh I don't ever see any guy liking me. .sigh
hey =blonde
hey blonde_sweeteart i wouldnt treat you that way i only treat girls that think they are above the rest of us that way.my sincere excusess for that i am deeply sorry
:lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by russtafa
long story short, pussy thinks it's special.
Pussy doesn't know that pussy grows on trees and thus feels it's entitled to every fucking pair of shoes it sees and still get respected.
Tussy, well Tussy knows it's special. Especially if it's good looking Tussy. But Tussy is burdened with the curse of time. Tussy knows that Tussy only has a few months to a few years to get what it wants before another hot young Tussy falls from the sky.
Even fat girls get liked. No offense meant at all, but i think you like attentionQuote:
Originally Posted by blonde_sweetheart
From my experience with the few ts I dated, I found them to be more down to earth and grounded than gg's I dated. But there are many different kinds of women out there. Go figure!!
fat chicks need love 2Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhill
lmao, i told my dad years ago. man im tired of dudes trying to holla at my girl. he was like even fat girls get hollered at lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LilWyte
ahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by jjhill
I must disagree. As a connoisseur of both women, and women with something extra, I find little difference in their complex natures. I believe that LilWyte is merely attracting what he is. Change yourself, who you are and what you want and seek and I gurantee what you receive will change as well, and likely for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by TsJennifer
I think there are complications and headaches with both categories.
It's so hard to find a good ts girl that can actually be in a real relationship. They seem to have so many hangups like they want to be their first or they categorize you as a chaser. It's so difficult to just have an honest open relationship.
TS girls seem to want to get away from what they are but, often you see them revolving their life around it and surrounding themselves with other girls like them even though they could live the life they want and have something that no one else would even know if they chose not to let people in on their secret.
Although money is important with everyone, it seems as though ts focus more on this part of a guy more than gg. It's like, unless you have money, then a ts will either do porn or escort even if they could work a regular job.
Personally, I think that money is important but it takes a backseat to love anyday. I believe it's nice when you can have a relationship solely based on how much you love each other and be happy with that.
I feel as though there are positives and negatives with both as well.
There seems to be more faithfulness with gg's whereas the mentality is different with ts. Given this is not the case with all, and I am definitely not trying to come off as a hater or trying to talk trash on ts.
I personally do not care whether I have a relationship with a gg or a ts. I fell in love once with a very wonderful ts girl, and would love to have that again. It's a great feeling having someone that you can love so much and share your life with, so I guess, really the complicatedness is worth it in the long run.
Maybe by the time you grow some hair on your dick, you'll have it all figured out.
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helvis2012
well i think your cute!
In my experience sometimes it seems like GG's below the age of 30 have a whole different set of values and priorities that are as complicated and abstract as us tgurls.
I have guys in my life, great, young, successful guys that will chat with me all the time about how they go out with a GG girl and they feel like the girls are always looking for the next guy that has a better car, makes more money, etc even after professing their love for my friends So I think younger GG's if they cute are always looking for the cash also.
At least tgurls have a reason why they are concentrated on money. ITS FUCKING EXPENSIVE TO BE A TGURL!!!!!!!!! GG's dont have to worry about 50% of the things Tgurls need because!!! They were born girls. Its an expensive thing to get implants and make you face look fem and all the other things GG's dont have to worrry about just to live life the way you want.
SO a local job at the Starbucks or even entry level jobs that pay $30000 a year after taxes dont cut it. Thats the simple truth and there is a very small percentage of Transgurls that have the education and the skills to get a high paying job even if they were out there.
I say to the guys here go out and get a career job right now that would pay you enough to take care of the bills in your life. Now add like 30% more because thats what it takes if you want to be a woman on an everyday basis.
Really I think human beings are complicated on every level and the idea that I hear guys and girls say "I dont want to date anyone with any baggage or drama" to which I say "your going to either be dating a stuffed doll or your going to be alone because baggage and drama is life"
Cheers and off to Los Angeles. See ya all at Cobra or the palms or I may go to Deep and dance my ass off,
Astrid Shay
BUELLS SUCK :D
Why dont you find yourself a bike that doesnt look Like a toy!!!!
HAH!
To be fair I think you might be basing that on a limited set of women. Actually there are many transwomen who do have regular jobs, and indeed, have illustrious careers. Many are married and most are pretty much invisible. Lynn Conway's site lists a few but it's a really tiny sample; most tend to be flying well under the radarQuote:
Originally Posted by LennyKoopa
These women are usually in deep stealth and are not even slightly interested in having a public "profile." They don't hang around at "tranny bars" and they don't escort. They stay away from places where they might be clocked by association. They specifically avoid men who are "trans-attracted," because so many such men are only interested in them to fulfil a homosexual fantasy....Pretty insulting if you happen to be a woman, and also because these men are a route to being spooked. So they transition and vanish, and this is also true of some transwomen who worked in the sex business; at some point they just disappear--not because anything bad happened to them, they just, maybe, met a man, fell in love, and now live as ordinary women....their former lives are just a memory.
When that works it's a happy outcome. And you have to remember that it is far less difficult than some people think for a transwoman to live successfully in stealth, especially if she is petite of bone, transitioned young and avoided the full masculinisation of her body; women like this know that the secret is not attracting attention and staying away from places where people might expect to see a "tranny." A good deal of the time transwomen are clocked because they are behaving in a recognisable way, they are wearing eye-catching clothing, they are seeking attention; but that totally unremarkable girl in slacks and sweater that you wouldn't look at twice, filling her basket at the supermarket, might be a transwoman in stealth doing the weekend shopping, just living her life ...
I've said this before, but some transwomen are remarkably beautiful, but quite likely to be "clocked;" Lynn Conway, for example, lived and worked in total stealth, in a fairly public position for thirty years and was never spooked, possibly because Lynn is attractive, but not remarkable. And she is most definitely not alone.
But as far as I can see, in general there's no real difference between how complicated transwomen and natal women are. I think transwomen's lives are complicated, but people are people. :shrug
It's because if you were everything they wanted, they would have nothing to complain about or blame "men" for. The goals of today's gg is a goal that no man can ever meet. (fact) Why try? Personally, I'm done. I'm sure it's why men died 7 years sooner than women.
when you like a girl .. that your nice to.. and she doesnt like you back.. its because you become a pathetic sap.. you lose your identity because it is taken over by your "love" this is unappealing. woman dont want a jerk,, ever. they want someone who maintains there own personality... if you fall in love,, and become a pathetic ass kissing mess. they will no longer be attracted to you..
I used to be one of those Stealth girls that wanted nothing to do with the community, nothing to do with any situation that would point me out as "different".
I worked in Investment banking and did my job and slowly paid for the surgeries and such that I had and tried to become even more stealth.
What changed was a precipitous fall from making more money than I needed to not making enough to even keep my hormones right or other things that a TG needs to do to be a girl everyday.
6 months ago I didnt even know about hungangels, and the whole underground of TG Porn. I was just doing my bartending and trying to save cash for the bottom surgery so, as Maxx put it, I could blend into society, find a guy or girl, etc.
But I am not as "militant" about being stealth as I used to be when I was younger. Its alright that people will see my picture on tbe front of a DVD or at Yum or other sites and I will be out there as a Transgendered girl. Reality I found at least since the late 90's its almost impossible to be totally stealth anymore if someone really wants to know your background and gets nosey. Also I realize that the people you love the most in your life if you really love them you have to tell them about yourself.
Just my opinion,
Cheers Guys and Girls,
Astrid Shay :)
for me TS are more complicated than GG jeje
I just find TS to be very moody i think because of hormones
Well for a PC generic reply to the OP, I think everyone is complex and there is no formula regardless of gender or orientation.
As to the nice guy v. jerk question, that's the complex part (but not so much). Think about your behavior, body-language, conversation, etc. w/ someone you're interested in. If your extremely nervous, cowtow to them, put them on a pedistal w/ praise, stumble over yourself to please them, can't speak at all or ramble about random topics that they're not interested in, then they won't be interested. Think about hanging out w/ your good friends, how would they react if you behaved that way (or how would you feel if they acted that way towards you)? When you're w/ someone you're not interested in (or care about their opinion) are you nervous or insecure?
I think the typical advice of "being yourself" is true but kind of misleading. What "being yourself" really means is act like you do when you're calm, relaxed and confident. Pretty hard to achieve if you're insecure (even if you're a really great guy around your friends and family). Try to channel that casual you who isn't worried about being judged (confidence).
True, there are some people who would judge on appearance or occupation allone and it's unlikely you'll impress them unless you're Brad Pitt or Bill Gates (and some would throw themselves at them regardless of personallity)...but most people want to be with someone they're comfortable w/, who is interesting and makes them feel good or have fun when they're w/ them.
If you just want to get layed, then find reputable ladies, bring money and be hygenic. Heh, ok, 5P lecture over. :lol:
Things are not the same everywhere and will never be, but in the UK it is now criminal offence to reveal the previous legal gender of a person who has registered a change of legal gender (Gender Recognition Act 2004.)Quote:
Originally Posted by astridshayxxx
It's not perfect, and the potential fine may be enough to discourage petty and malicious outing but is not nearly enough to deter, say a tabloid newspaper, so there is still a long way to go.
In my opinion, TG's and GG's are pretty much the same. Although I have only been with a few TG's in what I would consider a LTR, I have found them to be the same. The only thing that makes it a bit more complicating is that I have learned to be pretty good at giving that hormone injection every other week. :)
cuz hey dont love themselves!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LilWyte
Act like an ass with me and u already know how quick i am to pull back
ur nice 2 me, and thats y i adore u
ur too sweet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RubyTS
IMO, TS and GG are complex in different ways, but they overlap. Many of the issues challenging TS girls are also faced by GG girls - looks, dieting, clothes, boyfriends/girlfriends, etc but TS girls often have issues with getting the right hormone therapy. You'll see in here girls swapping their medication tips - which is great. I know that my gf struggles getting the right mix.
There's also issues about how to cheat or enhance nature to look, sound and act more feminine. Something the GGs have through accident of birth the TS girls have to achieve through exercise, operations, implants, etc - all of which costs money.
Sadly there's a bitchy side to TS girls, just like GG girls - but this is often short and sharp rather than enduring (yes, I know there are plenty exceptions!).
I have huge respect for TS girls who strive to constantly improve their femininity, often when facing rejection from family, friends, work colleagues and beaurocrats. One TS girl left all her family and friends behind to start a completely new life. That takes guts - but for her it was necessary.
So TS and GG girls are both complex in their own ways - and I love them both!
I would say more complicated in some areas, less complicated in others.Quote:
Originally Posted by SXFX
Unless the guy is gay or a bottom, she'll have thoughts of him eventually leaving her for a woman, and this is going to be elevated beyond what women normally have to deal with. A Super-hot TS is still going to worry that her man might wig and leave her for a so-so GG. The societal factors are not in her favor.
Their career is centered around their looks if they are an entertainer or model. That probably causes a lot of problems
One of the things though, just talking with them--they seem a little distant and don't respond to compliments like another poster said. A lot of them seem more interesting than regular women though. How many times have we seen long ass threads completely unrelated to sex, and been like damn...she's got a point. I guess the life of a ts lends itself to very interesting perspectives.
Also you got to note that acting like a total dickhead will work for a good looking dude, for us ugly men...I think it needs to get modified.
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanuki
I been talking with this one ts for three weeks, and the girl went psycho on me. I think it had something to do with her hormones, her quitting smoking, her past, her sexual frustrations and all that other stuff. But damn, she makes me wanna be single for a long time. Three weeks with her was more stressful then 3 years with my gg ex gf.
more complicated and often, IMHO worse
Hopefully all ts women is not like the one i was talking to. If so, imma just keep my attraction to ts women completely physical. Then to make it worst, she started talking shit about me in Spanish, knowing that I don't know Spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobzz
Almost ALL girls are complicated despite TS or GG status, but there are exceptions to the rule. It VERY much depends on the individual. I know TS porn stars who are completely down-to-earth and born girls raised in affluent, loving homes who are just miserable bitches.
It's all about an individual's perspective and issues, not so much their gender.
~BB~
Your right, I did hear that girls that are receiving hormones are extremely moody. I'm personally not sure since this was my first time dating a TS. Which was something I looked forward to doing since I was 13. The girl of my dreams turned out to be a nightmare that's for damn sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
I didn't say anything about hormones, but since you brought up the issue: I'm on a pretty high dose daily and I get moody but I'd say I'm much more emotionally stable than a lot of born girls I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhill
The problem I think is the WAY a lot of girls take their hormones. Injectibles are more potent immediately after medicating, but wear off sharply over time. This creates a roller-coaster like emotional effect as estrogen levels constantly ebb and flow.
Pills on the other hand are taken (in my case) three times a day, keeping estrogen levels as constant as possible. Interestingly, the body is only able to ABSORB so much estrogen at a time as the cell receptors rekey their preference from testosterone to estrogen. The longer you're on hormones, the more you can tolerate them which is why a lot of TS girls are a little wild when they first transition. Most that I know have leveled out considerably over the years.
~BB~
lol I didn't say you mentioned anything about hormones. I did in one of my previous responses to the thread. I was just saying you was right, and I went back on a tangent lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BellaBellucci