Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza 1/1/09

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Arnie, it's got ZERO to do with being leftist - that's a pathetic and sad comment for people who don't want to see innocent civilians caught in the crossfire of any war. Absolutely pathetic and shows your ignorance. - seanchai

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Such emotive language and ad hominem attacks don't actually explain your position. If one's being "leftist" has "ZERO" to do with whatever you are trying to say about Israel, perhaps you ought to explain why that is so.

And let's just assume for the sake of argument that no one wants to see civilians caught in the crossfire of any war. It does not follow that war is never going to be necessary. Nor does it follow that the civilian population, in any war, is "innocent" (whatever you mean by that.)

Care to try again?

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I don't post much but. If Hamas laid down its rockets and quit firing, made not threat against Israel the fighting would end. If Israel laid down its arms and stopped fighting Hamas would kill every jew they could. I could be wrong but i doubt it. - vicky

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You could be wrong, but I doubt it too Vicky.

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Some of the responses on here disgust me. The Hamas are a bunch of animals using civilians as cover who ALLOW it to occur, then you get angry with Israel for defending itself? It's ridiculous. Try talking to someone who is actually in the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) and learning about what the Palestinians actually do that is NOT reported in our media, you may have a different view after that.

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Try talking to some of the British forces when the IRA was killing women and children (and soldiers) - and funds were being collected for the IRA on the streets of NYC.

Try talking to the German occupying army when the French Resistance were killing and bombing their soldiers.

Try talking to a Vietnam vet when the Vietcong were killing their friends.

I'm not making direct comparisons between these conflicts but my point is, obviously the IDF has a skewered view - and the Palestinians a different one. - seanchai

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All you seem to be doing here is repeating the original poster's point, namely that the Israelis who have been subject to terrorist attacks will have a different perspective than most of the people who use this message board. In short, you haven't added anything to the debate at all.

Care to try again?

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Yet many innocents are being caught in the middle and the strikes that Israel have taken seem to be taking down more innocents, than legitimate targets.
A little restraint. - seanchai

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Show me where you have called for "restraint" from the other side.

And please explain clearly what you mean by the term "restraint" - I am guessing it is a pseudo-military concept, which you have invented out of thin air.

When you define this term, which you apparently want to employ in your argument about Israel, remember to give details of your own military experience, if you have any, and explain why you think your military knowledge matches that of the Israeli commanders. After all, I assume you would like anyone reading your posts to take what you're saying seriously, and not just dismiss them as the ramblings of a treasonous bleeding-heart do-gooder, who sympathises with Islamic terrorists and would like nothing better than seeing a green flag flying over their own country.

The only thing that really matters to me right now is that 59 innocent children died in those attacks so long.
And I do not blame Jews nor Palestinians for this. It's Germans. Everything is their fault. And entire Europe's
as well. They started all this shit. And if You ask me, the state of Izrael should have been placed in the heart
of Europe. Because they are european people. Unwanted european people. Don't You remember that?

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Originally Posted by fred41

Right now that video link everyone is looking at (unless it was changed) shows kids blown up when a "Hamas" truck blew up during a parade several years ago.

Israel has to take the offensive here and blow up supply lines , weapons depots...and military instalations in the Gaza strip NOW...before the rockets become more and more sophisticated and targeting becomes more accurate. It's unfortunate that civilians sometimes die..but it's impossible to avoid when the enemy is so deeply entrenched in civilian areas.

If Israel were to wait until they took huge civilian losses because Hamas weapons were more sophisticated..would everyone be happy then because then you could sit back and say .."Now there's a fair fight!! go at it boys"...There isn't a single ally in the middle east that Israel could turn to for help in a war. They are surrounded by countries that for political or ideological reasons want them destroyed..or at the very least, wouldn't care less if they were.

If that was the home some of you were living in that were threatened by rockets...I don't think you'd care how strong your government response was.

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I fully approve of the Israeli military operation in the Gaza Strip. And I hope they won't stop until they've taken out every last Palestinian. Let's get one thing straight: there are no "innocent Palestinian civilians". Each Palestinian man, woman and child is a suicide terrorist waiting to to blow up on a bus/in a crowded market/in a busy street full of people shopping and relaxing in cafés. Palestinian parents are proud to dress their little toddlers up with military uniforms and suicide belts.

Right now a childhood friend of mine is somewhere out there in the Gaza Strip as part of the Israeli "offensive" (defensive would be nearer the mark)... I just hope that this Hero of Israel will come home safe and make his family and his friends proud for having taken out a whole load of Palestinian scum and having helped to ensure that no more Israeli babies will be blown up by Palestinian suicide bombers...

They have been fighting for thousands of years so why are people acting so surprised with what is going on. The only thing that amazes me is even though every sinlge one of these arab countries hate Israel they can't seem to wipe them off the face of the earth.

They have been fighting for thousands of years so why are people acting so surprised with what is going on. The only thing that amazes me is even though every sinlge one of these arab countries hate Israel they can't seem to wipe them off the face of the earth.

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Right now that video link everyone is looking at (unless it was changed) shows kids blown up when a "Hamas" truck blew up during a parade several years ago. - fred41

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That's worth repeating, given the knee-jerk reaction of some on this board. Did they even watch the video? If they did, then did they understand what they were seeing? The stupid fuckers had a load of kiddies swarming round a load of explosives, then had an ND of some kind which set the lot off. To put it bluntly, that particular incident was no one's fault but their own. Here's the key quote from the article accompanying the video:

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The Hamas military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, is popular with youngsters. When the pickup with the gunmen arrived at the rally, many children crowded around the vehicle. - Liveleak

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Let's play pretend.

I am fucking tired of paying taxes, knowing that part will be devolved to support Israel. The US sends lots of free help to Israel; that is not in my interest, nor that of most all Americans; and I really am against the support of Israel, anyhow. I believe Israel breaks every moral and legal basis that a citizen of a civilized world was brought up to expect.

Israel has every right to defend themselves! What would America do if Canada or Mexico rained rockets into our cities?

Hamas has done nothing for it's people, all the funds they recieve for schools, roads and civil projects they invest in rockets and armament to support terrorism.

Israel has been soft on these idiots and are tired of biting their tounges..

Go Israel!

Personally, i dont give a shit about either side. I say we (as in the U.S.) just stay out of it and let the barbarians kill eachother. But i dont understand why (or how) Hamas continues to portray themselves as the victims in all this. I guess i was mistaken that theyve been shooting rockets at Israeli civilians for years. Oh, and i guess i was hallucinating when i seen Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11/01.

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Originally Posted by EyeCumInPiece

let the barbarians kill eachother

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the problem is, the "barbarians" arent just killing each other, they're killing innocent civilians also. Israel already proved its point yet it's continuing with the assault and innocent palestinians civilians are dying/being affected the most. So just because you saw a few palestinians dancing after 9/11 you think we should just say "fuck palestine" in general? Yea, i'm sure all palestinians don't give a fuck about the US...

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Originally Posted by EyeCumInPiece

I guess i was mistaken that theyve been shooting rockets at Israeli civilians for years. Oh, and i guess i was hallucinating when i seen Palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11/01.

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I have no respect for religious people of any ilk, but I detest whiny losers that start stupid wars by firing rockets into civilian areas, and I especially detest cowards that then hide among civilians.

And this whole bit about restraint and proportionate response is BS. War is all about disproportionate results... somebody loses. If the Allies had fought the Nazis proportionately, or the North had fought the South proportionately, the outcome would have been different and the world would be worse off.

This is really a dumb topic that belongs in the Politics and Religion forum. Argue all you want, but nobody is suddenly going to have an epiphany and find enlightenment. This is not what a transsexual porn forum is about.

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Originally Posted by porcazio

I am fucking tired of paying taxes, knowing that part will be devolved to support Israel. The US sends lots of free help to Israel; that is not in my interest, nor that of most all Americans; and I really am against the support of Israel, anyhow. I believe Israel breaks every moral and legal basis that a citizen of a civilized world was brought up to expect.

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Well of all of the countries that we send aid to Israel is one of the rare countries that actually happens to like us. We are gonna send out money regardless but i'd rather it go to countries that like us rather than ones that hate us.

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Originally Posted by Caff_Racer

Let's get one thing straight: there are no "innocent Palestinian civilians". Each Palestinian man, woman and child is a suicide terrorist waiting to to blow up on a bus/in a crowded market/in a busy street full of people shopping and relaxing in cafés. Palestinian parents are proud to dress their little toddlers up with military uniforms and suicide belts.

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I've seen Americans dress their kids up in Ku Klux Klan outfits. Does that mean all Americans think the same way?

So much hate in this post. It's really pathetic although I was taken in by the original post and didn't realize where that was an old video and not from the current situation, so I'm irritated at that - although my original points stand. Niccolo your hate doesn't isn't even worthy of a response. In fact the only appropriate post on here ...

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Originally Posted by phobar

This is really a dumb topic that belongs in the Politics and Religion forum. Argue all you want, but nobody is suddenly going to have an epiphany and find enlightenment. This is not what a transsexual porn forum is about.

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... apart from showing me how many hateful, un-insightful people there are on this board. I'm realistic, I know innocent people are going to get hurt in any war, but one side committing atrocities doesn't justify another - or the rest of the world condoning it.

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Originally Posted by Carlos

Is it just me or has anyone else put this together...
Israel is doing this now because they won't be able to in less than 3 weeks. Barack will not allow the Middle East to head down this path of destruction.
Israel will be held accountable for retaliation attacks. Because these attacks are killing lots of innocent people.

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LMAO

Maybe in your world where Cats have human pets and birds talk


TES

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Originally Posted by rick_932

Yea, i'm sure all palestinians don't give a fuck about the US...

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Yea, Precisely why i dont give a fuck about them.

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Originally Posted by praetor

Dismal, take your own conclusions.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719

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HOLY SHIT

1. This belongs in the Politics and Religion section.
2. This video is NOT Israel. Read the goddamn description you retard. That is video footage of a Hamas parade in which Hamas weapons accidentally went off and blew up in a crowd of people. This has NOTHING to do with Israel. Stop being a fucking Nazi Jew hater.
3. Israel has the fucking right to defend itself and I fully support their actions. I bet you wouldn't be bitching if terrorists were launching rockets into your neighborhood, killing your family and neighbors. You'd want the government to stop them. Stupid people enrage me. How is Israel supposed to combat people that fire rockets from the roof tops of schools and hospitals? Stop bitching about Israel.

This picture accurately depicts my mood now that I just read through the stupidity in this thread.

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

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Originally Posted by praetor

Dismal, take your own conclusions.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719

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HOLY SHIT

1. This belongs in the Politics and Religion section.
2. This video is NOT Israel. Read the goddamn description you retard. That is video footage of a Hamas parade in which Hamas weapons accidentally went off and blew up in a crowd of people. This has NOTHING to do with Israel. Stop being a fucking Nazi Jew hater.
3. Israel has the fucking right to defend itself and I fully support their actions. I bet you wouldn't be bitching if terrorists were launching rockets into your neighborhood, killing your family and neighbors. You'd want the government to stop them. Stupid people enrage me. How is Israel supposed to combat people that fire rockets from the roof tops of schools and hospitals? Stop bitching about Israel.

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Why fight...People have been fighting before if you believe in christ well Before christ. It get tiring. People fight over look,religion,etc... This thread is somewhat worthless because if your an adult and understand the reality of a HUMAN life then you would see that fighting to KILL others is just wrong,why make the mistake of others be the MORAL person Yaaaameeen....Kaiti Israel does have the right to protect themselves, But the its the United Nations job to protect countries that cannot protect themselves...Its a International committee basically who tries to come to reasonable outcomes to horrific crimes such the hamas have made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

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Originally Posted by praetor

Dismal, take your own conclusions.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719

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HOLY SHIT

1. This belongs in the Politics and Religion section.
2. This video is NOT Israel. Read the goddamn description you retard. That is video footage of a Hamas parade in which Hamas weapons accidentally went off and blew up in a crowd of people. This has NOTHING to do with Israel. Stop being a fucking Nazi Jew hater.
3. Israel has the fucking right to defend itself and I fully support their actions. I bet you wouldn't be bitching if terrorists were launching rockets into your neighborhood, killing your family and neighbors. You'd want the government to stop them. Stupid people enrage me. How is Israel supposed to combat people that fire rockets from the roof tops of schools and hospitals? Stop bitching about Israel.

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Praetor is from Brazil. I guess if Bolivian terrorists started shooting rockets at Rio de Janeiro, Brazil would have to sit around and do nothing, hoping the problem will just go away because they dont wanna hurt any Bolivian civilians. Or perhaps we shouldve made a pact with the nazis, sparing the lives of all the civilians we bombed the shit out of in Dresden, Berlin, ect.

The logic that some of you guys/gals possess is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

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Originally Posted by Caff_Racer

Let's get one thing straight: there are no "innocent Palestinian civilians". Each Palestinian man, woman and child is a suicide terrorist waiting to to blow up on a bus/in a crowded market/in a busy street full of people shopping and relaxing in cafés. Palestinian parents are proud to dress their little toddlers up with military uniforms and suicide belts.

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I've seen Americans dress their kids up in Ku Klux Klan outfits. Does that mean all Americans think the same way?

So much hate in this post. It's really pathetic although I was taken in by the original post and didn't realize where that was an old video and not from the current situation, so I'm irritated at that - although my original points stand. Niccolo your hate doesn't isn't even worthy of a response. In fact the only appropriate post on here ...

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Originally Posted by phobar

This is really a dumb topic that belongs in the Politics and Religion forum. Argue all you want, but nobody is suddenly going to have an epiphany and find enlightenment. This is not what a transsexual porn forum is about.

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... apart from showing me how many hateful, un-insightful people there are on this board. I'm realistic, I know innocent people are going to get hurt in any war, but one side committing atrocities doesn't justify another - or the rest of the world condoning it.

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You would have been perfectly alright in just leaving with the quote that this doesn't really belong in this forum..but then you had to add some really unfair comments. I re-read all of Niccolo's quotes..and I couldn't find anything hateful..just sound ,logical questions, as you would have in any reasonable debate. It's immature to label something - choose any of these: uncompassionate, stupid, hateful..whatever..and then dismiss it with the swipe of a hand..and declare that it isn't worthy of a comment. That's called a cop-out!!

Also ..most of the world has never condoned anything Israel ever did. Every year the U.N. council condemns Israel for human rights violations...while human garbage like Robert Mugabe gets to starve his country to death relatively unscathed.

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Originally Posted by EyeCumInPiece

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

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Originally Posted by praetor

Dismal, take your own conclusions.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719

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HOLY SHIT

1. This belongs in the Politics and Religion section.
2. This video is NOT Israel. Read the goddamn description you retard. That is video footage of a Hamas parade in which Hamas weapons accidentally went off and blew up in a crowd of people. This has NOTHING to do with Israel. Stop being a fucking Nazi Jew hater.
3. Israel has the fucking right to defend itself and I fully support their actions. I bet you wouldn't be bitching if terrorists were launching rockets into your neighborhood, killing your family and neighbors. You'd want the government to stop them. Stupid people enrage me. How is Israel supposed to combat people that fire rockets from the roof tops of schools and hospitals? Stop bitching about Israel.

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Praetor is from Brazil. I guess if Bolivian terrorists started shooting rockets at Rio de Janeiro, Brazil would have to sit around and do nothing, hoping the problem will just go away because they dont wanna hurt any Bolivian civilians. Or perhaps we shouldve made a pact with the nazis, sparing the lives of all the civilians we bombed the shit out of in Dresden, Berlin, ect.

The logic that some of you guys/gals possess is beyond me.

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Yet who did the American public side with when the IRA was launching attacks on the mainland UK?
Hypocrisy.

The caveat is I happened to agree somewhat with some of what the IRA wanted, just not the means by which they were doing it.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Yet who did the American public side with when the IRA was launching attacks on the mainland UK?
Hypocrisy.

The caveat is I happened to agree somewhat with some of what the IRA wanted, just not the means by which they were doing it.

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All I can say is that only stupid people support terrorists of any kind, no matter what they stand for. Only a fucking moron would support a terrorist group, Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land). All these protesters make me so angry. Why are you supporting terrorists? How could you? Had Hamas not fired rockets, this situation would not have occurred. Idiots are everywhere lately.

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Originally Posted by ef9hatchman

Why fight...People have been fighting before if you believe in christ well Before christ. It get tiring. People fight over look,religion,etc... This thread is somewhat worthless because if your an adult and understand the reality of a HUMAN life then you would see that fighting to KILL others is just wrong,why make the mistake of others be the MORAL person Yaaaameeen....Kaiti Israel does have the right to protect themselves, But the its the United Nations job to protect countries that cannot protect themselves...Its a International committee basically who tries to come to reasonable outcomes to horrific crimes such the hamas have made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations

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I know what the United Nations is and I don't know what you're referring to because Israel is defending itself from a culture of terrorism and genocide. Gaza is not a country, it is a chunk of land controlled by a terrorist regime. Israel has the full right to do what is necessary to stop these terrorist attacks (that happen non-stop from multiple organizations and countries). Hamas derseves death and anyone who supports them should die too.

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Israel has been practicing this for 60 years. Zionists have uprooted the Palestenians first, confiscated their land, and are killing the rest who refuse to leave their homeland. Only a couple of months ago, 200 Indian jews were welcomed into Israel as citizens whereas more than 5 millions Palestenians are refugees across the world. Israel is sucking the West and the USA to the last drop to fulfill its evil project. Zionist Israel is a racist, criminal and colonial entity.

The Israeli Invasion of Gaza is an act of genocide. Can you say "Ethnic Cleansing"?

www.whatreallyhappened.com

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Oh shut the fuck up you Nazi. Don't be sucked into the Neo Nazi propaganda. Learn some history before you spout hatred.

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Israel has been practicing this for 60 years. Zionists have uprooted the Palestenians first, confiscated their land, and are killing the rest who refuse to leave their homeland. Only a couple of months ago, 200 Indian jews were welcomed into Israel as citizens whereas more than 5 millions Palestenians are refugees across the world. Israel is sucking the West and the USA to the last drop to fulfill its evil project. Zionist Israel is a racist, criminal and colonial entity.

The Israeli Invasion of Gaza is an act of genocide. Can you say "Ethnic Cleansing"?

www.whatreallyhappened.com

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Actually the West is responsible for creating this state, but are now powerless to stop it. Israel is not going anywhere, whether any of us like it or not. They are the bully of the region and any attempt to antagonize them (like shooting rockets at their civilians) will be met with a strong response. And Rightfully so. ElNino there are refugees all over the world. People displaced and broken from wars over religion, land, greed, ect. If you think the Palestinians are innocent in all this, you are out of your mind. I feel sorry for any innocent person displaced by war,its an unfortunate consquence of battle. But this kinda shit was happening thousands of years b4 any of us were born. And it will continue when we are all gone. Some of you assholes on here sound as racist as this so-called country that you R against. I honestly believe that some of you on here would be overjoyed if Ahmedijad got his wish and wiped Israel, and all its men, women, and children, off the map. And even after that, mark my words the Jews are there to stay, plain and simple. Palestinians either better get use 2 it or pick up there guns and continue to fight. But if they are looking for sympathy in this cold world, theyll get none.

Kaiti, stop being ingnorant. You are confusing two seperate things, that is Zionism and being an Israeli. One can be against the political movement of zionism and not be racist. The map tells the true story. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...tellstory.html

Get educated dummy

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Israel has been practicing this for 60 years. Zionists have uprooted the Palestenians first, confiscated their land, and are killing the rest who refuse to leave their homeland. Only a couple of months ago, 200 Indian jews were welcomed into Israel as citizens whereas more than 5 millions Palestenians are refugees across the world. Israel is sucking the West and the USA to the last drop to fulfill its evil project. Zionist Israel is a racist, criminal and colonial entity.

The Israeli Invasion of Gaza is an act of genocide. Can you say "Ethnic Cleansing"?

www.whatreallyhappened.com

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Oh shut the fuck up you Nazi. Don't be sucked into the Neo Nazi propaganda. Learn some history before you spout hatred.

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haha, you are TOO MUCH... You are in the dark about the whole situation. I am not a "Nazi", Nor do I support terrorists. From an objective point of view, it is clear that this is a genocide. Again... http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...tellstory.html

Here are pictures that the mainstream media probably won't beshowing you... http://www.flickr.com/photos/effarania/

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Kaiti, stop being ingnorant. You are confusing two seperate things, that is Zionism and being an Israeli. One can be against the political movement of zionism and not be racist. The map tells the true story. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...tellstory.html

Get educated dummy

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Learn history you moron. Stop believing that Nazi propaganda. Israel gained more land through wars. The Arabs constantly attacked Israel. They responded by invading the terrorist territory of "Palestine". Israel gained all that land through war conquests, which is completely legal (you don't have to give the land back). If the Palestinians wanted to be left alone, they shouldn't have started bombing Jews. Not to mention that there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The land was always Jewish territory but was conquered and re-conquered repeatedly. Jerusalem was built by Jews and is a Jewish city. Most Palestinians came from Jordan. The land of Israel was Jewish territory long before there was a Jordan.

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Let us all remember that PEACE can be achieved, and is really the only answer.



Anwar Sadat, Jimmy Carter, and Menachem Begin
Israel-Egypt Peace Agreement of 1979

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Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....
So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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Originally Posted by El Nino

Telling the History of the Twenty-First Century as it Really Is
http://lataan.blogspot.com/2009/01/m...to-reveal.html

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LOL, you really believe this crap? Some random Jew hater's blog and some retard newspaper writer?

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Originally Posted by kittyKaiti

Hamas for example, as we have seen all across Europe and the Middle East (figures, its all Muslim infected land).

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Didn't take you long to raise your racism did it? So it's nothing to do with terrorism ... just Muslims that you hate?

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Islam is not a religion. It was founded by Muhammed, a known pedophile and terrorist. He lead wars against neighboring countries to force Islam upon everyone. Everyone that refused was slaughtered. Islam is a cult of violence and genocide. In my book, it isn't racist. You can't be racist against terrorism.

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Bwah Bwah Bwah....

And for calling people nazis what justification do you have?. you little lady need to So what religion are you? Please tell - and what religions do you consider "a religion".

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Shes a BIGOT. wow horrible explaination of the Islam religion.
Islam is A PEACEFUL religion FYI,fuckfaces like radicalist gives islam a bad name.
get ya facts before being a racist hypocrite=BIGOT.
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And for calling people nazis what justification do you have?. you little lady need to read about religions before showing your lowly educated mind :D

My mother and myself are Christian she grew up in the middle east her best friend who happened to be her neighbor OMFG was MUSLIM. People are good in their hearts who cares what religion they believe in. As long as they are MORAL people. kaiti your comment about racist againt terrorists, I understand your point but we do not have the right to kill someone if we/government does so we make ourselves as low as they are.

The truth of the situation is reverborating throughout the blogosphere despite the the (heavily biased) mainstream media's attempts to squander any alternative opinion and release of information.