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I just went to the gas station and cars where lined up like Sat nite at club Shelter or sumthing...lol. It was like a live niteclub 4 real. I met sum new hotboys too, i didnt know they stayed around here. I think imma go back in a minute to find sum more..lol
They say gas is gonna go up to 3.45 its 2.99 there no...haaaaaaaaa
I was thinking bad, but I wasn't thinking that bad. I was thinking maybe $4/gallon for a while. Your reasoning is sound, though. Don'tcha just luv your SUV now?!
I think alot of us have the problem of only listing the highest octane
87 octane in NYC right now can be found @ $2.79 (thats what I paid today) other places have 87 for $2.99
gas won't be $4 a gallon for 87 octane in NYC by Friday, Bush allowing the reserves to be tapped right now proves that..........
expect $4 a gallon around Xmas though, and thank the voters that based their decision solely on gay marriage for that, not any hurricane, tornado, tsunami, or war................
$3.09 for supreme in Hawaii - expected to go up tomorrow.
Personally, I'm all for it. Stop the kids flying around in rice burners, encourage people to car pool, state/government should invest more in public transport.
Going to suck that the airlines prices will go up yet again!
seanchai
Premium jumped to between $3.30 and $3.40/gallon in Mass. today.
I saw $3.45 for 87 oct. $3.65 for prem. in Chicago (#1 in the USA for gas prices). I expect some price gouching considering the cheapest I found in the suburbs (avoids a high Chicago Tax) was $2.85 for 87 oct. Most places were around $3.0X for the 87 oct.
As a former rice burner I wanna say fuck that bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
Kids pushing supercharged or turbocharged Honda Civis with DOHC Vtec engines are NOT THE REASON the for anything, you can fly in a rice car all day and still have more than enough gas for a week.
Blame the SUV owners driving their Expeditions. Escalade's, and Hummers daily needing $80 to come close to filling up a tank.
Hybrid & Hydrogen engines are here, companies like toyota & bmw will benefit from this drastically as they are the corporations with vehicles running on one or the other style mentioned..................
oops, forgot Honda, expect the rest of the import companies to follow suit in the next year, and expect to see Hybrid emblems on most vehicles within the next 5
This is the most intelligent thread I've seen on here in a long time.
I have to agree with you guys that talked about Peak Oil. I read something a few weeks ago saying it could happen as soon as November. I'm actually really happy with my little car now and my 30mpg.
The reason we're in Iraq is becoming more clear now. We need a puppet government in the middle east to give us a discount on oil. When peak oil hits, China might have it's eye on the middle east too. It'll be a land grab. The US is scared enough of China as it is.
It's going to get crazy over the next year.
China has guarantees to Iran's oil. Why do you think U.S. put Iran in it's axis of evil? They will not do anything since China will surely go to war with us if we invade Iran.
Interesting, considering that the world is very close to peak oil production now and current estimates hold that we can maintain that production for maybe (maybe) 35 years. As someone posted the other day in another thread, triple the demand while production remains constant and you triple the price. Fortunately, I'll be 90 by the time the oil runs dry....
Releasing oil reserves is not going to have a huge affect on domestic gas prices for several reasons. First and most importantly the United States already suffered from aging refineries and too few. Eight of the 10 refineries in the Gulf Coast area from Texas to Mississipi are out of commission due to storm damage. Bush could twinkle his nose and have oil gush out of the ground and it still would have to be refined into petrol. Oil companies are not going to sign for loans of oil they cannot process at once into gasoline as the clock starts ticking on when it must be "repaid" from the date they take posession of the oil, not when it is refined.
Oil prices and subsequently gas prices are determined much more by world markets than anything a government can really do. Those that trade in oil for a living have analyzed and expected this release of oil and will price their bids accordingly.
Word is do not expect gasoline prices below $2.50/gallon agian if ever anytime soon. Personally am much more worried about home heating oil/natural gas prices than petrol for cars. Fall winter is fast coming and it is going to cost PLENTY to heat homes this winter. Weather you rent or own your own home, you will feel the effects. Now might be a good time to start knitting a few sweaters. *LOL*
Exactly. China already has it's hand on some oil. That's why the US had to get it's hand on some oil too. Saudi Arabia isn't playing with the US anymore so, it was time to get a new bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsluver247
China is a scary country. Like Napoleon said, "When China wakes, it will shake the world." The world is starting to shake.
With the advent of anti-knock regulation systems in cars now, why would anyone buy high octane gas at the moment?
My faith in this place has been partially restored given all the intelligent responses in here over an issue that touches everyone of our lives. So much for the place being ghettosized. Very insightful, educational, and informative.
... I do have a problem with anyone who advocates going to war and killing people because it's "our" oil. I'm going to go over to kill that drug dealer who's got my coke ... See the problem ? Our continued dependence on fossil fuels will only lead to a dead end road one way or another by either draining the planet dry of it leaving the country up the river without a paddle, or choking (carbon dioxide) the planet to death. We MUST start spending the money into research into alternative fuels and sources, and now!
Regular: $3.50 in Jersey
More important, gas station close because they out of gas!
Why in Jersey should this be happening? We refine more gas then only to other states! [Please inert your on chemical joke here] I have notice that BP has been holding its prices while some other companies are using this disaster to boost prices. There are about 200 hundred oil tanks in Linden NJ only (if you haven't had the change of visitng lovely Linden, please Soparanos intro), did we use that up in five days? Plus coming home from work the flame was burning, which happens when they don't have talk room to store it.
I drive a SUV, so I guess I'm to blame but something smells rotten and it is not the refinery!
Look back over this thread. At the beginning of the thread, people were posting that gas was in the 2.69 range in NYC. Well, yesterday gas in Queens NY was generally 3.90 -- a jump of over $1 in a few days.
CNN reports gas is $5.99 -- ie basically 6.00 in Virginia.
Yesterday, Philly was reported to have 24-48 hours of gas in storage, and if the pipelines did not start pumping, they would run out.
In my earlier post, when gas was around 2.69, I predicted 4 by Friday (which pretty much happened) and 5-6 in NYC by this weekend. Well it's Saturday and I don't know what the price is because my local gas station is closed, with a sign saying "no more gas."
There are two east coast pipelines -- the Colonial Pipeline and the Plantation Pipeline. One ends in Philly or DC (not sure), the other in New Jersey, just across the river from NY, which then receives the fuel by barge from NJ terminals.
The southern one is pumping again, but the one that ends in NJ is only operating at 70% capacity. So gas will probably not go up to 5-6 here, right away, but if it continues to operate at 70%, gas will go that high in NYC soon, because 70% is not enough to supply the regions, plus make up for almost a week of no pipeline operation.
The business news is all about, "don't panic, there are no gasoline shortages." That's bullshit, they don't want people to panic buy, which will drive the price up more and lead to worse shortages.
But I filled my tank and bought winter home heating oil Wednesday, as soon as I heard the pipelines were out.
You have been warned!
This is why I sold my car months ago......Good to live in NYC's public transportation system....
I was using my scooter about 70% of the time, even in cold weather, as my ride to work is only about 12-15 mins...needless to say, I'm gonna tune it up and use it pretty much all of the time...I was at the gas station, putting in my weekly ONE GALLON...the lady in front of me had a for sale sign on her SUV, and was looking at my scooter with an almost lustful glance (or maybe she wanted me, who knows)...and then the cashier says "I guess you're feelin' like the smartest guy on the road today"...no, but I'm glad I bought this motherfucker...
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Wow that is expensive. I was out of town all week. I filled up last it was $2.80 or something. I looked and it was $3.60 here or something. Pretty crazy. I do think $3.50 a gallon is a little unreasonable. The gas companies always price gouge people in times of crisis.
What do you think all those companies who just released all those 300-400 horse power cars are thinking right now. I think GM and Ford are typically regarded by consumers as gas inefficient while we think of foreign cars as efficient.
I get like 28mpg on the freeway in mine. It's hard to justify a crappy 4 cyl when you can have a V8 and get almost the same mpg.
thank god 4 my v-tech,lol
What kind of mileage does your V-Tech get? If I could get a cool car that legitimately got 40mpg freeway and didn't look ridiculous, I would seriously consider getting something else.
rated at 32 mpg hgway....and 225hp
most of the gas stations in BR are out of gas. and the ones that do have gas have waiting lines about a mile long.
they are considering lifting the state tax on gas for a temporary basis to help relieve the prices in connecticut....but it doesnt really help dealing with this price gouging situation.....there are many stations here boycotting selling gas until prices are brought back down....
i just saw a huge drop from earlier in the day.....places that were charging 3.30-3.40 are now charging around 3.10......ohh those thieves
Drove home from a 3-day weekend in NH today (I live in Mass), and for the first time since I bought my '99 VW wagon six years ago I decided to hold to the speed limit or even a tad under (63-65 mph). I got 32.5 mpg (normal--at my more usual 75 mph--is 29). It's a 1.8 liter turbo (same engine Audi used in their TT sports car that year): only a 4 banger, but plenty powerful and fast and able to tow 3000 lbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
Not trying to be mean, but Americans have it pretty easy when it comes to petrol. Even adjusted for inflation today's gas prices are lower than during the 1970's oil crisis.
America imports close to 70% to 80% of it's oil, most of which is refined into petrol for cars that on average have worse or equal gas mileage than those produced in the 1970's or 1980's. Why does anyone need a huge "Hummer" to drive around town? Or any of the other huge gas drinking "light trucks"? Less than .5 percent of those trucks will ever see anything remotely looking like "off road".
Petrol prices are based upon supply and demand, and the United States is notorious for it's demand for petrol, hence the high prices. If the United States government announced SERIOUS measures to curb petrol consumption, prices would drop and the Saudis amoung others would be in deep trouble. Of course what remains of the "Big Three" make huge profits from selling gas guzzling trucks, so there would be an impact on that sector from any major fuel effiency effort. Considering how fragile GM and Ford are at the moment, doubt any politican wants that on their plate, but sooner or late the problem must be met head on. There simply isn't enough domestic oil, even if they drill all of Alaska to keep supplying current demand levels.
The other major problem as shown when Katrina ripped apart the Gulf coast, the United States has not maintained, nor built new oil infrastructure in over 30 years. No new major pipelines, refineries, nothing. Close to 80 percent of America's refineries are in gulf, along with a major portion of oil wells, natural gas production, and so on. This as we have seen spells major trouble if or when a disaster hits that area. Everyone wants petrol, but no none wants a refinery or pipeline on their patch. After driving through New Jersey this weekend, can't say I blame them on the refinery bit. Hint: set the air conditioning to recirculate the air inside the car, not to bring in "fresh" air from the outside.
Finally the United States has something like 30 or more different types of petrol blended for targeted states to meet their special emission requirements. This drives up the cost of petrol, and was the reason Bush suspended those rules for awhile to allow petrol to flow where needed regardless of how it is made. This also allowed petrol from Europe, which under normal circumstances would never set foot in the United States, to arrive on it's shores. These special petrol blends drive up prices.
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Where the hell did you get that avatar, that is hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollywoodbuckstrap
ancient chineese secret.....aka...i had someone else do it,lol
Gas is $2.87 in NY today.........................
ala Hillary Clinton venting
viva la dyke
So how much extra profit was earned in the past two weeks by Big Oil? That's what I want to know.
had to be a billion easy
Yeah--but no gouging going on....
right...its pretty obscene...
last qaurter each oil company made 15-30+ BILLION dollars in profit...thats how much they made after the recap their losses for wages, equip. exploration etc...
sad thing is they will probably contribute to putting our country into a recession, cause people who depend on driving for their livelihood to lose thier jobs, etc..and they just couldnt give a shit about any of that..
and than there is the rebuilding of new orleans, a city in a bowl below sea level...
get ready people...I see some very hard times ahead for us all...
Get use 2 high energy costs people...they r not going anywhere. We in this country have been spoiled 2 "cheap oil & gas" 4 so long that we r totally unprepared 4 this new reality. A scaled down economy, less cars on the street, less polution and hence cleaner air and water, and a more localized lifestyle with functional/sustainable communities will not b a bad thing dont u think. America has been a "rogue state" when it comes 2 energy 4 so long, but the day of reckoning is upon us. Life as we know it is about 2 change but in the long run this will be 4 the better. Adjust and prepare.
Think of the 1st Gulf War, when gas prices went up nearly 50%. The oil flow from Kuwait and Iraq was restricted, so why shouldn't gas prices have gone up? Sounds good and well, until you do some research and find out that only roughly 2% of America's oil came from this area at that time (Japan and Western Europe were the primary consumers of said oil). What does this mean? You guessed it – we should have seen only a very marginal increase in the price of gas here in the United States, not the large increase we did experience.
We were gouged then, and the government did nothing about it. We are being gouged now, and, once again, the government will do nothing about it. This time, however, we also have the added pressure of speculators driving the price of oil up (and by extension gas, etc.) because they believe prices will ge even higher in the future – and they are right. If you are looking for either political party to enact policies to protect you from this type of gouging, do not hold your breath.
-Quinn