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Originally Posted by boondocksaint
Wow, you need to learn to read news before you write. Congress DID NOT declare war hunce the reason a lot of people want Bush impeached. Since republicans controlled both houses of Congress for 6 of Bushes 8 years which include the start of the Iraq war and the oversite of this economic problem he is responsible. They just rubberstamped everything he wanted and stood by while he ran the country into the ground.
The biggest problem with the american public is that like the dumb asses in your unit they do no fact checking and believe complete garbage like this. An even more scary and telling prospect is that fact that you boys dont have a clue who your actual enemy is. As a veteran I find this shocking. Go get a book, the internet, a newspaper or whatever you can get your hands on and educate yourself!
awesome post,i see it like this either 45 percent of americans are completely brain dead or 45 percent of americans are racist batards,this race should not be close barack obama is refreshing and new and extremely smart where as macain is a war monger and nobody and i mean nobody in the rest of the world wants this prick in office.his choice of vp is a girl who s as bright as a burnt out lightbulb and this clown macain picks her after meeting her once? thats the kinda decisions americans want to run your country? i didnt think so.if any american chooses a candidate by the pigment of there skin instead of real issues aka economy? needs to give there heads a shake period....Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
try the black JFK get it right for fucks sakesQuote:
Originally Posted by PapaGrande
so, once again, you feel compelled to speak for everyone? :roll: :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by lisaparadise
I think anyone who actually agrees with twinkle toes about anything should really reevaluate themselves at that point.
listen dude i speak for the majoritty so do us all a favour and change your avitar its pathetic and disgracefull and extremely immature,not to mention demeaning,you have the balls to call yourself sarah? no real tgirl or gg would have that avitar lol more like a 20 year old punk who spends his day playing xbox rather then looking for a damn job period.Quote:
Originally Posted by tubgirl
wait, now i'm confused...Quote:
Originally Posted by lisaparadise
you say you speak for the majority. ok fine, i'm not going to refute that. however, what does my avatar have to do with anything? and when did i call myself sarah? and i've never stated or implied that i am a tg or gg. and now, just because i post on here, i must be a 20 year old kid who doesn't have a job?
wow...if you speak for the majority, i'm glad i'm in the minority...
I am in an office that is 98% hard, vocal, right and white. Everyone talks all day about their hatred of socialism, bureaucrats and lawyers. Most of them hate democrats because of their fiscal policies and liberal moral values. Most of them including myself have zero love for ghetto culture. I am around the hard right Rush-style every single day.
That being said...I hear talk of Obama being killed but never by a whack-o right-winger. They believe the Clintons would do it. That's why Obama should not have Hillary as a VP. They really do believe the Clintons would do anything to get back the whitehouse.
It's touchy to take on most of the office as a republican voting for Obama. But I'm voting for the man, not the party or the color of his skin. If it was Hillary or Biden, I would join the rest in the office and vote GOP. I think there's something special in the man.
Not sugar-coating it. Like it or not...nobody is talking about shooting Obama. They are not hating because of his color, just his liberal politics.
wow great post , i was thinkin the exact same thing about hilleryQuote:
Originally Posted by tg4me
All your angst comes from the fact that time and time again you realize whites are smarter than you.At least we don't whine every time someone offends us. Grow up. quit your bitching and make the best of it.Life is tough for everybody.And remember Obama came out of a white pussy and that my friend makes him a white man.And you will just like myself be fucked one more time by a white man if he wins.
roflmfao.... well thats one think i aint never heard on a stump speach lolQuote:
Originally Posted by edward almond
Obama is just as big of an asshole as Mcinsane. For Chrisssakes look at the people behind him. His phucking chief foreign adviser is Zbignew B. The asshole who wrote a book in the Carter years outlining how imperative it was to "secure" the gas fields of central Asia. Yea, vote for Obama....send more kids off to die. Christ sometimes I'm amazed by people who don't spend the time to research the power people behind the Cult of Personality.
[quote="yodajazz"]I'm sick of you people, saying that Blacks are only voting for Obama because he is Black. Black voted way over 90% in 2004 for John Kerry, who is White. What is it about that that you cannot understand. Republicans have not done much for Black in a very long time. Reagan had his "trickle down theory" of economics. You know what trickles down? Piss. In addition Blacks make up a higher percentage of the Armed Forces, and are dying in these wars that Republicans think of. Black females make up over half of the females in our Armed Services.
It may be none of the above for you, but one of the above will become president. One of the above's political party got us into war under a false pretext, saying it was for self defense and it was not. None of the above, people like you, say that it is ok to let them get away with murder, not just American lives, but innocent people in a country we claiming to be helping. But meanwhile we are trying to secure the rights their oil fields.
The other thing about the Republican party is that their philosophy has been to let big business do what ever they want to make profits. Meanwhile the those business sent our jobs overseas, and are constantly thinking of new ways to add penalties to their services which exploit those least able to pay their bills, the poor. A large percenatge of the money in my community is going out for penalties, not accumulating any goods, just going straight to the company coffers.
So you think that Black people are voting for Obama becuase he is Black? The real reason is: WE ARE TIRED OF SMELLING LIKE PISS![/quote
Christ....where to begin....It was the Dumocrats that forced ACORN into law....and are 90% responsible for the entire sub-prime melt down....and the eeeevvviiillll Republicans that actually tried to reign in Fannie and Freddie.....but Dodd and Barney-Frank-fag blocked every move....sooooooooo now "we", meaning all of us are getting ass-raped by the Bernanke/Paulson bailout.
Most of the time there's not a farts bit of difference between the Dumocrats and the effin Pubs.... but in this case you could at least try to get your facts straight...ok?
and another thing....if ya don't want to get your ass blown off then don't join the fucking Army...ok? Is there a fucking draft going on now?
WTF?
Oh yea.... another thing....what political party freed the slaves?
This thread should be lock before things get ugly and turn into a race war.
A party that doesn't exist anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by beandip
There WAS a liberal, progressive Republican party- but it became corrupt and owned by big business to such a point that progressive reforms became impossible. It was not what it once was.
That's why TR abandoned ship and formed the Progressive Party- he saw them for what they were and despised every one of them.
Conversely, the democrats used to be the conservatives and used to always take the southern & western states on presidential elections. Times change.
As to acorn... I'm sure you're well aware that many states have been ILLEGALLY removing people from the voting rosters, at times without any justification for the removals (the DOJ themselves have mentioned this in the past few weeks). These roster "pruning" efforts in certain states seem to disproportionately effect poorer districts that are more likely to vote for democrats... and those wrongly removed, without knowing they have been removed- will go to vote on election day and find 1- they're not registered anymore, 2- that since its election day its too late for them to re-register and thus they can't vote. This happened to me in 2004, don't tell me it doesn't happen. Sources on acorn voting fraud have been at best conflicting, if not just blatantly incorrect- and pale in comparison to the amount that have -illegally- had their registrations removed (for every acorn registration, more than two in many of these battleground states have been illegally removed from the rosters).
But I agree, there is plenty of blame to go around with the economic crisis, although I'd have to remind you all that we DID have a balanced budget in the Clinton years, we could afford social welfare programs to a point... it was this big Chinese-paid for war in Iraq to find nonexistent wmd's that broke the bank accounts. The mortgage crisis stems from many sources, for instance Greenspan went around telling people that there was no housing bobble, that there could not be one, and if there is one it could not burst. He went around telling everyone to get adjustable rate mortgages, not fixed rates.... and then to top it all off, even the mainstream lenders have been engaging in predatory practices such as only giving minorities adjustable rate mortgages when they qualified for low fixed rates. Minorities have been disproportionally targeted by these practices, and have disproportionally defaulted as a result... this has, if you go by the stats, been the single most damning shift in minority wealth distribution since the Civil War- and that is due to a combined impartisan effort of the rich to produce this ends via INTENTIONAL, calculated measures.
In terms of the economic crisis, if you look at the associates of both candidates and what role those associates have had in this mess... then the only conclusion is that the candidates in question cannot be trusted to stay subjective, they should be disqualified, if not charged with treason outright. the United States is not, and should not, be forsale to special interests -of any kind.
Actually based on the videos today from the McCain rally with him having to try and undo the race card he and Palin played it's the right wing nut jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by tg4me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-Ijky95dc
If the Clintons were gonna do it they would have done it before the primaries. It's too late now. They wouldn't have much to gain.
well atleast part of your nickname maches make no mistake you are a DIP period,let me quess all you all day is listen to the patriot rodio station on xm radio how patetic and stupid you are it just blows my mind how dumb some americans are .Quote:
Originally Posted by beandip
still railing against people with different opinions than yours, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by lisaparadise
and i see you never answered this post:
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wait, now i'm confused...
you say you speak for the majority. ok fine, i'm not going to refute that. however, what does my avatar have to do with anything? and when did i call myself sarah? and i've never stated or implied that i am a tg or gg. and now, just because i post on here, i must be a 20 year old kid who doesn't have a job?
wow...if you speak for the majority, i'm glad i'm in the minority...
That statistic is untrue unless you have some poll going that on one else knows about. Don't quote facts unless you can back them up and as far as I can tell no polling done backs up the facts you stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkThanos
An epic phail is quoting a poll done by a company no one has ever heard of that doesn't state any variables. If this was a viable poll you would fid it more places than some obscure web site. I can go around my neighborhood and create my own poll and cite that but that doesn't make it very accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkThanos
[quote="beandip"]The real-estate market was just a nudge to the house of cards financial market. One of the main causes of the economic is lack of regulation. For example there has been a large amount of lending and leveraging between financial houses. The 60 minute segment called it a “60 trillion dollar shadow market”. http://www.crooksandliars.com/nicole...-shadow-market But if those parties were subject to regulation, then they would have been forced to have sounder business practices. An example used was that they were providing insurance to cover losses, but not subject to insurance regulations, which would have required them to have a percentage of reserves to cover losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by yodajazz
Lax regulation allowed banks to get into riskier practices, as well as other financial organizations. Unsound practices, like being able to buy stock by borrowing money and then selling for a profit without having to put up any of your own money, over inflated the value of stocks. An article I read, put the cause of the rise gas prices more on commodities speculation. I believe it. Let me ask you, have China and India stopped using gas in the last 2-3 weeks, so that the price could come down? No, the answer is that there is less money out there to drive up the price through commodities speculation.
The Republican/Conservative philosophy since Reagan has been for less government oversight. This crisis is the result of unsound business practices by financial managers looking for quick profits without looking at the bigger long term picture. The whole US manufacturing base has been eroded as Corporations were allowed to ship jobs overseas to industries which are often subsidized by the host nation. Now we don’t have enough people making money to buy cars, etc. Each company has a better profit margin through lower labor costs, but the bigger picture is a nation unable to produce it’s own goods sending money out other nations economies.
The same government that people are complaining about has the task to establish and regulate sound financial practice. After years of lobbying for less government intervention, the same people turn around and ask them for a bailout, shifting some of the financial burden to those people whose jobs they wanted outsourced.
I’ll admit that I am just learning, but your reasoning doesn’t take into account the much bigger financial market, like the 60 Minutes story.
I do appreciate the Republican Party for fighting for, and passing the 13th Amendment in 1865, 107 years ago. But my honest opinion is that the average American, these days in an indentured servant to the credit industry. Larger and larger amounts of our productivity are going for paying credit costs and penalties. As Jesus Christ might say, we were 'led into temptation'.
P.S. I agree with everything said by Sarah G, in her post above. Great post Sarah.
Most of what you said was accurate imo, with the exception of the regulation. The fact is we have not had a free market in any recent memory. There has been tons of government interference, mainly by Congress through twisting the commerce clause. In my opinion the democrats push socialism as the cure, while the bulk (not entirety) of the republican party has been pushing a fascist agenda (even if some of them haven't realized it).Quote:
Originally Posted by yodajazz
Too many people are quick to jump on the anti-free market bandwagon, when in truth that provides the greatest amount of individual freedom and better living conditions overall. People can call our economic structure over the past 100 years many things, free market shouldn't be one of them.
This mixed bag economic policy, combined with run-away government spending/borrowing, and intervention to save companies/individuals that have made poor choices is coming back to fuck us.
im kinda retarded when it comes to the innernet dillio, i dont really think about wut i say or type, i just go with the flow, and as for basic research on the computer, i really just use it for porn, and the occasional music downloadQuote:
Originally Posted by braveman
Don't worry about the internet so to speak. It would be nice if you would know who you are supposed to be fighting against. If Im not mistaken you are a soldier, therefore it should be of the utmost importance to you to know who you are supposed to be fighting against. As a veteran I find it shocking that you don't nor do you seem to care too much. This is a great example of why the world hates the US. We have lumped prety much all groups of Muslims together as terrorists instead of knowing the differences between them. Or own president still doesn't know the difference between a Shiite and a Sunni. If he did know he would have known this war in Iraq was not going end well.Quote:
Originally Posted by boondocksaint
Don't be a George.
I am one of the 60% that is unhappy with the choice of candidates. To date in the race, I've seen shit from both, though I like both of them. They throw out the votes of each other on different bills, which god knows what's attached to them bills. I like to once, see a candidate to say what he feels as opposed to being controlled by their parties machines. But in this day in age thanks to our "Access" type media...we won't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldensamba
No candidate can deliver anything he's promised to date. You have The House of Repreretards to go through. Though, Obama is a Democrat, he's not one of the in-crowd yet and will have to give on tons of principles to get what he wants. McCain is one of the in-crowd, but in the wrong party, so he won't get shit either. And don't bring up Kerry, he was a stationary dildo with a dead battery. The Clintons knew how to get people blown, so they were popular.
We got what? 20 something days and I don't know who to vote for. Show me something in these last 20 or so days. Who has balls? Step out of the box.
Ain't gonna happen, they will stay in the safe media box.
Now that I can agree with. Obama will play it safe so he doesn't lose ground and McCain will throw all the toys out of the box to see what sticks. I question his temperment and decision making which is what makes my vote go to Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by ezed
The ugly scenes at his rallies are another. The fact that it took him a week and tons of media pressure ot put a stop to the racial crap shows me he is not the right man for the job.
Good reply SarahG...at least someone here has a clue.
Why not try refuting what I've written with some facts?Quote:
Originally Posted by lisaparadise
You might come off a sounding tad bit more intelligent instead of just name calling.
Give it a try.
Look up Zbigniew Brzezinski .
I listen to 104.1 out of Hartford. Hard rock. I'm not an ass sucking bootlicker for either so called "political party".
it'll never happen dude. facts have no place in lisa's posts. lisa ignored the last two posts i made asking to back up statements that were made...Quote:
Originally Posted by beandip
Well as a white mongrel ( half brit half irishman), I admire obama getting in the position he is in. Where he had a good chance of becoming president of the united states. I think it is amazing that we have a Black man running for president and a woman runnng for VP.That is why I stick up for Palin, because despite some of her views she came up from being a PTA mom to this level now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solitary Brother
Sexists on the liberal side may scoff but there must be something about her to do that. You talk about hate we have leftists like madonna talking about beating Palin in the street and that nasty ugly dyke Bernard advocating a gang rape by members of your race.As if gang rape is a Black man thing. She then has the nerve to complain when womens shelters refuse to invite her too functions. Where is your thread about that 'hate' or is it because palin is a white right wing hetrosexual woman so therefore it's okay?Is it okay that Berhnard talks about members of your own race in that way because she is a leftist dyke? If a well known comedian had talked about Michelle Obama being gang raped by a bunch of redneck hicks I think this forum would be flooded with comments.
As to the comments made about Obama , they are disgusting ignorant comments such as refering him as a terrorist , I have no doubt some whites want him six foot under which would be a tragedy as he is an ispiration. But I don't want him to be president because I simply don't agree with him. And really just because he is not retarded like the current president is hardly an endorsement! But if he wins despite not agreeing with him I will not be bitter as in a way Iam pleased that he has achieved what he has .In America the Blacks were treated pretty shitty over the years and I do think a Black president would be a real step forward , I just wish it was someone else.
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Originally Posted by arnie666
Wow, look at this. Someone who doesn't like the other candidate but can do it in a rational way without hate and distortion of facts. I commend you. Even though we have different views I definitely have respect for your viewpoint. Bravo!
Now if you could only give lessons to those shouting all the hatred..........
its not really muslims im against when i think about war/killing, i blindly just think about pretty much Iraqi citizens and Afghnistani citizens. i think this because from wut ive seen we are the only ones in uniform and lots of them have guns but not all are against us. it kinda like when we fought the British and we went against all military combat traditions. looks like history does repeat itself
I'm white and I catch a lot of this in my line of work. I just ignore it, because trying to reason with them will both be pointless and could hurt my career. Obama will win the election - that is enough for me. If any one of them continues with their bullshit after he's elected it's a chargable offense under the ucmij (universal code of militaty INjustice)
i love how u say white FOLKS.
i didnt know people used that term before entering retirement.
All I know is that if the majority of those who bother to vote decide they'd rather have McBarelySane and Sarah The Apocalyptic Backstabbing Hockey Mom in office JUST BECAUSE they don't want a black person doing anything inside the White House other than its domestic chores (never mind that Obama MIGHT actually repair some of the current administration's damage and make some things better for us working people), as far as I'm concerned, America deserves whatever it gets. I'm finished with caring about this country in that case.