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Listen, if everyone just eases up on their spending, doesn't dump all thier shares, keeps up those mortgage payments every month, and STOPS PANICKING, then everything will be fine and dandy.
This is nothing like the Great Depression. This is like the slump of the early 90's.
The main thing driving this now is the scaremongering media, and the 'thick-as-pig-shit-believe-everything-you-read traders'.
Sit tight everyone. It'l be rocky, but just learn to save.
this isn't like the slump of the early 90's. IT's much worse. Just the facts- PEAKED OIL PRODUCTION, impossible deficit, illegal taxation and subsequent looting, close to 7 billion people, receeding water supply, food waste. Just a mess.
We don't have a new system to fix this. THere's nothing that we can do besides scrap this thing. We as a people have the least invested in it really, since nobody really OWNS anything. You fail to pay taxes you lose it. Just a big sham to keep you HOMELESS with a roof.
We're all homeless, this body is just a rental...
here is the problem.....listen carefully. this whole problem can be traced back to one man....Alan Greenspan. the man is an irresponsible ass. i believe it was 2000, 2001 something like that and we had just come off the big dot com stock bubble crash. the entire federal reserve board was in favor of raising or keeping interest rate where they were ( though still artificially low ). under pressure most likely from the clinton adm. easy al talked the board into lowering rates aka printing more money. this fueled the real estate bubble and we know how that story is playing out. they can now lower rates to zero and it won't matter one damn bit because the banks aint loanin' money to anyone. as interest rates lower our currency turns to toilet paper. this fuels inflation as everthing we import we have to pay for with our toilet paper. it takes many rolls of toilet paper to buy a barrel of oil. this by the way is the reason the price of oil is going up. oil is price in U.S. currency (toilet paper). The best thing we could do know....even though we should have been doing it all along is to raise interest rates and shore up our currency. I know some of you are saying "but it make our goods cheaper to export" and that is true except that we don't export nearly as much as we used to and when our economy hits the skids completely the rest of the world is going to suffer big time as our foolish monetary policy has been the guiding force to the world wide bubble
LOL! I like this!Quote:
Originally Posted by envivision
Everyone of our elected officials have their fingers in the pie, Rep's and Dem's. To effect REAL CHANGE start by slapping some of these fat-cats in jail. I'm still wondering how a Senator that is payed under $170K a year be worth multi millions of dollars, health care and a pension for life?
Cork suck rat bastages!
BTW, the sub-prime mess we're now facing wasn't started by this administration, it was the brain child of Congress during the previous one. But if it makes anyone feel better then blame Bush/Cheney I'm more worried about what is going to happen when the adults leave.
...and the absolutely senile take over. What fucking adults are you talking about? The bunglers and whiners currently in the White House who took more vacation/play time than any president in history? Not only couldn't Bush respond responsibly to a 3:00am phone call, he couldn't even compose a complete thought for 7 minutes after being informed the U.S. was under attack, and he was wide awake. I'm wondering if this country can survive another ten or eleven months of this infant.Quote:
what is going to happen when the adults leave.
Have a look at Everbank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunzee
By the way, this analysis group has been eerily accurate so far.
I just want to get my ass humped as many times as possible before the lights go out for good.
I couldn't have said it better myself...nicely stated...Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Tom - You're a genius and pretty smart. Similar to what I intended to last page, but I was a bit pissed. That market adjustment of the 90's ? - I'm up from $10K to over $50K on that one. LIve within your means and all wil be OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomfurbs
Trish, I can see that you understand the crisis of our economy. From here forth, to everyone, do you not see that the USA is facing a financial crises? This will, and is causing a global meltdown. Have any one of you kept track of the Japanese Nikkei? That market was at 40,000 in the mid '90's. Now its at 11,000. The Dow, NYSE, Russel 500 etc. is suffering the same fate. The FED has cut interest rates to the lowest point since before the housing boom, which led to a major bust. This is only a repeat of the past, and things to come.
i think actually right now is beginning of a turn around for the better thats that the inner feeling i have i dont think it will be a major depression however the housing prices will be down for a while cuz they were overinflated however the economy seems to be gettin out of the funk and the fact that GW doesn't have that long left in the office is greatly helping it...
This is the headline from the original story that opened this thread:
Wall Street fears for next Great Depression
There's too many words there. Let's try this:
Wall Street fears!
There we go. Everything's back to normal.
Everybody's an expert. There's always some yokel telling everybody what to do with their money. The problem with that is that they're the same yokels that the movers & shakers who can actually affect the economy listen too. Gee, that's working out well.
Economics is the study of how the economy already works, whether there were ever any economists or not. That brings up the next problem. No 2 economists can agree on how anything works. No matter what kind of mathematical or statistical mumbo jumbo anyone throws into the mix, that doesn't change.
So now what? We can all see there's problems. Prices are going up. Unemployment's going up. Wages are stagnant. & now the stock market looks like it might tank. Oh well. The stock market isn't the economy. You are. If you own stock, you still own it whether Bear-Stearns collapses or not. They're just brokers. Let the Federal Reserve & JP Morgan-Chase bail them out if they're so worried. They're just another house of cards like Enron. & like Enron, they don't produce anything but their own stock. 80% of the people employed in the US private sector work for small businesses (less than 500 employees) that aren't listed on the NYSE or the NASDAC.
My advice? I don't have any except to not be too worried. Barring something unforeseen, the mindset in this country is going to change in 10 months. If people are confident that things will improve, they will. We ARE the market. It's the American consumer that pays for EVERYTHING. The hell with a bunch of continuously panic-stricken bozos who don't do anything but buy & sell each other. They'll follow our lead like the sheep they are. Now I don't care so much if the brokers want to bail each other out. I just think they should go retro & refit their offices. If they're going to screw up like they have been lately, then all brokerage offices should be on the 10th floor or higher with windows that open to the street.
He he, thanks. I hope I would be pretty smart, being a genius and all. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by TSCURIOUS
Seriously Your two solutions might work except:Quote:
Originally Posted by envivision
1) LOWER the Taxes......Yeah Guess what ole Bushie forgot?...you have to cut spending as well...His spending makes a Liberal look Tight as a Scotsman.
2) Compete internationally (China-Inda-Brazil have been kicking our butts the last 5 years). To achieve that we must flex our muscles in the middle east, asia, south america and everywhere else. Problem The Chi-Ind-Bra connection are kicking our asses.....WITH OUR COMPANIES!!!!!!!!!
Here is one way of boosting the economy, Cut Payroll taxes, put more money in people's pockets by not taking it in the first place. Cut Fed. spending in Crucial areas, Some needless Defense and Social projects. Do away with Dept of Homeland security, Stop fighting the war on drugs and turn it over to people who can do the job...the states.
There are many things you can do to fix the economy like Penalizing a company the closes down a US plant to open up one where workers get pocket lint for wages...I understand they want less and less overhead....but have you seen the price of levi jeans go down since moving all production overseas?
Buckle up people it is going to be a bumpy ride
600 dollars in May??? yeah when that came out most people immediately put 1000 on their credit cards. People you are going to have to stop using your credit cards like they are another source of income.
Ah, if that were only true!Quote:
Originally Posted by hippifried
Quoting http://blogs.marketwatch.com/greenbe...estments-safe/
Contained in virtually every brokerage firm’s standard Account Agreement (generally a Margin Account) is a provision that allows your brokerage to register all your securities in street name, meaning their own. Every security you buy, even if you pay for it in full, might technically belong to your brokerage firm. It could be that all you really own is a claim on the firm for those stocks and bonds. When securities in your account are held in street name, says Eric Brunstad, Visiting Lecturer in Bankruptcy Law at Yale Law School, it’s really not your property. It’s like depositing money in a bank account. Your cash isn’t sitting in the vault in a box with your name on it. You are simply a creditor of the bank. Maybe you should have read the fine print, after all.
For many years, virtually all securities have been held and registered electronically. The elegantly-engraved paper certificates you might remember are largely historical curiosities. Rather, most securities have been dematerialized, and exist only on the electronic books of the issuer and an electronic depository house known as DTCC. The securities industry has promoted this practice of holding in street name as good for investors for a variety of reasons. They will tell you that it makes buying and selling much easier for you, collecting interest payments more timely and simple, and even protects you against the loss or theft of those nettlesome stock or bond certificates, while reducing the costs associated with transfers and deposits. These things are all true.
As is typical with most things brokerage firms and their regulators tell you, however, there is far more to this than meets the eye. In fact, when your securities are held in the name of your brokerage or bank, they, not you, have most the rights of ownership.
Well, I don't want to poo-poo the doomsayers. We have a country that exported all our jobs and manufacturing overseas. We no longer produce anything but war. The tax burden is crushing the economy. Add up all the taxes and fees you pay - 39% fed income tax, 9.2% state, then add 7.75% sales tax on everything you buy/earn - there's 56%. Then add all the rest, gas, phone, property tax etc. It's all too much.
But I'm here in Las Vegas right now with my business partner looking at foreclosures. The Strip is packed with people. The population is expected to increase by 1 million people in the next 10 years. Big residential construction is at a halt - which means in about 18 months there will be no new inventory and existing homes will start increasing due to demand for housing - and the cycle will resume.
There are at least 9 major projects underway, two brand new hotel casinos, the South Point and Red Rock. And over 30 billion in new projects planned between now and and 2011.
The dollar is weak but it's not going to crash. The world economy is not going to crash either.
We just experienced a Huge run up in real estate around the world. To expect things to increase at 20% a year is unrealistic but now that things are pulling back to a sane level everyone is crying disaster. It's not a disaster if you took your profits and reinvest wisely.
The stock market just had the largest one day increase in history. Today it went up 400 points - I made over $30,000 in the past two weeks just moving in and out of the DJI index . Now is a great time to day trade. I'm trading off my frigging iPhone during lunch even!
Visa is releasing the biggest IPO in history. Get a piece of it if you can. It's a no-brainer. Visa will open around $40(we of course won't get that price, just the big institutions) but Mastercard is at $210. Do the math.
If your money isn't already in euros or gold, it's too late. Don't play the stock market if you can't take a short term loss. If you have cash buy land, in 5 years you will double your money. And the fact is, even if you don't people still have to have a place to live. People still need services, it's still a great time to open the right business.
That's what I think anyway. If I'm wrong I guess we will be back selling ass on Craigslist...
Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)
How much ass can you get for a gold coin?
Pure Genius too!! Could not have said it better myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by justatransgirl
this is how politics work.
The next regime takes the blame or credit for the last and messes it up worse. Meanwhile they all add to the mess, finding new and creative ways to explain nothing in particular, while the real dirt is just a sentence long, or a change of a few words attached to some ammendment that nobody's really even going to read.
Lets start from FDR. They made the 2 term rule for this guy. He gave us the New Deal to come back from the struggles of the depression. During that time he created social security. The republicans started the looting immediately after they got the new deal weakened by their control in the supreme court. Then they set up the war plan. Hawaii was taken over by the american businessmen, like the doles. Eventually they couldn't just settle for tax free goods, they had to overthrow them, then allow japan to strike, like the US had a right to be there in the first place. The fact that they were even over there on that part of the world was an inflamitory tactic. The laws and influence they had while still trying to remain "isolated" did not do other countries any good. American history, especially recently, is full of attacks and incidents that allow us to get sucked into some war that allows these corporate businessmen who happen to also be politicians determine how much of the constitution will be left to wipe their asses with. They also launder the money by selling and producing more of their number one investment WEAPONRY.
FEMA and Blackwater should have everyone worried (Think ROBOCOP 3)
I grew up reading and watching a lot of sci fi. Funny sci fi has the word fiction attached to it. Most things science are more fact than anything, so another distraction in everyday language. I read Asimov, Verne, Heinlein, William Gibson, Orwell, etc. What I learned at a young age is that we learn to slow down to the speed of what is around us. We rarely allow ourselves to go with concepts that go outside of the cell we've been given. When we start to break away from that cell. Breaking away from that box is when we truly begin to live. So one of the ways that we are attacked is financially, because most of what we do in this society involved it. And you can't keep a pretty cell without comissary. SO you deal, Cope or Snap.
Fed cut the rate, slowing growth. What next? See, it's just going nowhere. Meanwhile the main men, rockefellers, rothchilds, morgans, chase, Carlyle group, are reigning this thing in SOON. This smells like a war and a lot of things going to crap.
The Economy is Gone, Done, Who's going to back it? With what? More money? Too late for gold now, they looted that too, they don't mention that about the trade center, do they?
How are we as mostly disappearing middle class citizens supposed to win this? This is what history teachers should be teaching -- America means you can lease whatever you want to. New lease on life, mortgage a home, buy a car, credit cards, etc. It's all :crap , if you aren't getting something that has true value for giving something you are getting nothing. Might as well just say, I'm doing you a favor. MONEY IS ONLY WORTH AS MUCH AS YOU YOURSELF VALUE IT. In REALITY, it has no worth only an affixed value. That is the lesson that we are going to learn the hard way SOON.
I'm afraid that bad things will come to pass unless we get an intervention from something more divine than us. I'm hoping for the intervention...
If by adults you mean the 'profit uber alles' crowd, who think it's ok to outsource jobs or cut wages and benefits because it raises the stock price, who think government shouldn't pass laws to prevent corporations from pumping pollution into OUR air and water, who think companies shouldn't pay into an unemployment fund for laid off workers, or be responsible for the medical bills of injured workers, who think Social Security should be privatized or it's right for workers to pay a higher percentage wage tax than people who spend their days sunning on a yacht pay on their dividend checks or it's ok for the 'have-nots' to have a lower quality of health care than the 'haves'......then I say "Good riddance and never darken the hallways of Washington again".Quote:
I'm more worried about what is going to happen when the adults leave.
Here's the way politics work: The last regime (Clinton-Gore) left office with a TEN YEAR BUDGETARY SURPLUS. The entire Bush/Gore campaign battle was about what to do with that surplus...give it to the wealthy in tax breaks or put it in a lock box for social security. Bush didn't even fucking spend it. He gave it away!!!
Little Bush deserves the same fate as Mussollini received, as well as Cheney and a few others in their neocon cabal.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Well as bad as things may seem to be, there are lot of positives this past week. The stock market had 2 400+ days biggest gain in many years. The Fed are reducing interest rates. Despite ppl views on surpluses/deficits, it never has really been something i worried to heavily about. Right now the deficit only make around 3-4% of gross domestic product (GDP) and even less globally. And it has been shown that stock markets have faired quite well in deficits. Maybe even less well in surpluses. If the stock market does end up recovering in the next month or so, we may only see a short-term recession (if you believe the old believe that the stock market precedes economic conditions).
Additionally, 10 year bond yield are are lower than S&P 500 Stock earning yields. So I am confident about eh future and see this possible recession as an opportunity.
stocks are bs. Point blank. It's Consumerism at it's best. The bubble is about to burst, and they will have to either take over or pre-empt. Get ready...
Well if the economy does go down the toilet everyone better get ready for the fall of the USA. I mean not just financial wise I alos mean socialy aswell. Everyone will start attacking everyone for what they have.
There will be a hell of a war here in the US.
You get it, this is where this is headed. Notice the shift toward the holy war they are attempting. All fabricated, but this was determined a long time ago. We don't have a chance, and it's not just the US. It's a world issue. If you believe in the Bible, now is the time where the WHore of Babylon will come to take face. Pray for intervention, because destruction is inevitable at this point. We can't save ourselves. Those in charge don't want salvation for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny B.
Get ready...
I will. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by south ov da border
People read this, its the Global economic outlook 2008
http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/research...185449,00.html
Do you mean like the Road Warrior – because that would be sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny B.
http://op-for.com/road_warrior.jpg
-Quinn
LMFAO @ you two, especially at south border and his religious gibberish.Quote:
Originally Posted by south ov da border
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling..."
IT's not my religious gibberish, I don't personally believe in that crap, it's what they are trying. Their God"dollar" is failing, they will start a war because of it. IF we make it through the summer I will be truly surprised.
Chefmike, hve you been listening to Bush lately? They are basically outlining this thing by w0rds and actions.
Honestly all "religions" will be part of this deception...
LOL you guys/gal are funny, I hear the same crap everytime someone thinks we going into recession
"the world is going to end, global economies will fall...blah blah blah"
Just like Y2k, the end of the world and all that crap.
What ppl never mention is the great depression occurred during a global depression which has to happen for a great depression, global economies have to fall. Do you think that will happen with China becoming global and maybe even Vietnam? Come on, lol!!!
Now is the time to invest your money, buy a house, stocks whatever a year from now we will talk about this crap and laugh. Maybe more like 2 years.
economics will fail because the idea is slavery. You only have to sell the idea of slavery, then allow people to become slaves themselves. Economics go hand and hand. Look up the true meaning of Wall Street, and understand there's no more world to take over. It's going to be a real mess.
Lots of people gloom and doom everytime the economy sinks, BUT JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS RIGHT NOW.
The US is in another part of the world that they aren't welcome, but this time, it's not going to be a few powers that stand and fight, it will be a few superpowers. Don't be surprised with our German Pope and German president that there's another Reichstag, and muslims get blamed. Probably some more buildings blowing up. But it will be government planned forward the war agenda. To protect the interests of the investors, there will be a war to hide their misdeeds. That is what I see right now.
If I'm wrong, we'll come back here in two months and everyone can say I'm a fearmonger, but if I'm right, please hope and pray that I am still around to share information...
LOL going to parts of the world where we are hated. Hmm lets so haven't we done that before, Japan ring a bell the country that Bombed us that infamous December 7th. War right more bad news, the IRAQ war of 2004 that speared a good market and Kuwait of 1992, World war II the end of the great depression.
If you right, will that wouldn't be surprising cause that is what everyone else believes. How often has everyone been right about umbigous subject such as economics even better yet i global economies? Will i saw a graph today and saw that ppl generally pull their money out of mutual funds/stocks right when the stock market begins to rise and vice versa. E.g. Feb 2000 was the pick of money put into funds (the beginning of bad downward stock market) and took money out July 2002 (begin of very good upward stock market).
What make me believe its okay cause we will be prepared for it? Its when there are uncertainy and we dont know is the problelm. Right now to many ppl are certain we are in recession and that will allow for us to prepare for it (e.g. lower interest rates, getting loans out of country), ect.
OK I''m not NUTS.
W have to prepare emotionally and mentally. A lot of the things we take for granted everyday are fabricated realities. When the rug is pulled from under us, that is what we must be prepared for. Some say it won't happen, others say it will because that's what they were taught, but most don't follow FACTS, HISTORY, etc. No religion will explain everything, as they are all peversely distorted in their interpretions. The languages we speak are all about 1% of what translated, which still is about 1% of another translation, etc. We are pretty dumb when it comes down too it, but it's not entirely our fault. The resources have been hoarded, what we have access to has been table crumbed for many years. We cannot possibly understand the supernatural, which is not really that, but more natural than anything we've ever known.
USA, which is an extention of BRITAIN have been taking over countries and territories for many years. Nobody wants them in their part of the world, but because of the weaponry US takes over and imposes the dollar system of trade. WELL it's all a fabrication, as only a small percentage of people really own and control all that is. Our thoughts are not ours mostly, but what is allowed for us to think by what we have access to. The mess is so deep, and now it is time to cash in. That usually means war.
THIS HAS HAPPENED IN HISTORY BEFORE, SAME TACTICS AND ALL. Difference being now, the propoganda machine is SO thorough and the world is more of a reachable community, easy to spread the false word.
Look I will come right out with this, UNLESS AN INTERVENTION HAPPENS, within the next 2 months things will start blowing up, and natural disasters will come more frequent. Intervention can happen at any time, but if it does not, we are all doomed, ,most of the inhabitants of this planet will die. I am not saying that because I heard it somewhere, or read it or anything. I've had visions of this, and been feeling these things all my life. But besides all that I have felt the change in energy. It has affected my heartbeat, my chi/chakra/spirit whatever you want ot call it. It has produced ringing in my ears and tunnel vision in my eyes, it has ruined my stamina *less sex is involved interestingly enough* and it is evident in every aspect of my life. The Matrix way of living is soon to end.
EVENTS TO KEEP AN EYE ON
CERN and their progress on the supercollider-which is scheduled to shoot in May. Those who aren't familiar, they are going to create back until right after the big bang. They will also be creating mini black holes. Important happening, because at that point MAN will be trying to take his place amongst the gods.
The false flag/ terrorist attacks that might lead to pre-emptive strike. If things start blowing up, whomever is left will be sucked into the puppet government of all time. It's being set up for that as we speak. The attacks won't just be of a human nature.
The collapse of world economy as the investors/ bankers cash in and eliminate whole classes of people. We are too dependant on the matrix way of living. We don't have enough local food/composts/water purification methods to make it on our own. Lots of people will feel pinched soon
Unexplainable weather. Anyone notice that dip in Jet stream, the tornadoes nobody sees? Watch out for quakes in places they don't usually happen. Cali has maybe a year or two left. By the way, Cali sits on top of the pacific on a shelf, and the ocean contunes all the way to nevada. Pay attention to the skies and waters around southern cali in particular, there are submerged bases .
If you really want answers, meditate, believe that there is more out there, try and center your energy, try and dream, vision. It's time to be accepting of the incoming energy and shift in concious.
If I'm wrong, proceed to ridicule me, but before you do, ask a question. AM I REALLY FULFILLED, DO I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS EARTH EXISTENCE IS ALL THERE IS? Meditate on that, and then proceed with life...
As far as American Hatred in foreign countries, here is my feeling: well its hatred towards Americans or more specifically the American Government, another form of racism. Racism is hatred towards a group of ppl not to an individual. When I meet a person, what I think of them weather they be black, white, asian, hispanic, male, female, transgender is based on my interaction with them, how they treat me. Its based on the individual not group. Is the same true from American in foreign countries: I think so. When I traveled, at least i was treated this way and I was sometimes even treated with more respect. Foreign countries want to flirt with idea of companies like Coca-Cola, microsoft employeeing them and creating jobs. They have nothing against that and will base their opinion of these companies based off these companies not where they come from.
When I was studying financing, they thought the best way to learn about good companies is to use bottom-top approach not top-bottom. Top-bottom would be using and forecasting current economic conditions (something that economists get wrong more than right) than deciding which sectors will do good or bad, look for a company in that sector that is best or worse. Trouble is it relies on forecasting and sometimes you can't search for the best company in sector (they may not be the best known, how big was starbucks before we knew about it). Bottom-top is just the opposite analyzing the company first than sector than economy. It has been proven countless times this works far better and more profitable, you end up find the one company that only suffered because its sector was out of favor, but the company itself was doing well and had good management.
The point of all this is that countries, except the few exceptions of maybe small groups or countries, use this approach to analyze ppl and companies (small countries dont effect global economies much anyways). They will find these companies in the long run benefit them. Sure occasionally Americans get killed in IRAQ. Right after WWII Japanese couldn't open up business here but how long did they last. I dont know about you but i love driving a dependable Japanese car that gets a lot of miles to the gallon and is inexpensive. Would you prefer a 30K car that a piece of junk and cost tons of gas? And I think most of us use that approach with ppl also. And probaly most of us are sick of relationships where the guy only wants sex and the transexual only wants money. When I analyze companies, I may only find 2-5% that fit the exception to the rule. That is different from relations however cause you dont have to commit to those "wrong companies." So basically you will be wrong far more than right. But once in while you may find that guy who just doesn't want sex or that transexual will that is looking for a long-term relation or something. When you wrong what it only takes an investment of 1 night, 1 week? But be right once, and that could be a lifetime investment.
LOL if you are wrong, not one will call you nuts or ridicule you cause it is what everyone believed. They will just ignore it or say "oh will maybe Jesus wasn't born on 0 BC so 2000 wasn't the end of the world."Quote:
Originally Posted by south ov da border
PPl like me are NUTS if we are wrong, ppl say wtf are you thinking IDIOT!!! The facts were totally there. If I am right, they will say "you got lucky."
Its the same with stocks, you lose money on microsoft ppl say "well times are bad." Lose money on some unknown company that hasn't even made a profit and they say "you're nuts you idiot. You think money grows on trees?" :lol:
So I am fucked either way :lol:
the choice of belief is the biggest lie that has been given us. If our choices are controlled do we really have a choice of anything?
It's like trying to avoid death. Only thing we know for certain, but always trying to cheat it.
This system we're born in is a lifetime system. To break away from it often reqiures death, but of our accecpted humanity. We just think in too finite concepts, and not allowed info to be more without defense systems in the way. Thus science fiction is deemed more fiction than possible. People who might actually see things and know what's up get deemed lunatics or they go in the category of those going along with what everyone else is saying or not saying.
I'll give you specific things to look for. The Russian situation is about to go up. That coupled with the world recession could make for serious issues in millitary actions. I think that If something happens in the middle east, the first shot at Iran is not going to be taken by the US, but Germany or some other country in Europe. Why? Because the Euro will be the most steady monetary denomination (even though it's a fabrication as well). The pope is german, the bush's aren't who they say they are. the nazi way of doing things is still alive and well. AFter ww2 they didn't kill them, just relocated to the vatican, south america, cia which still has it's own SS by the way. This is all too much to be coincidence.
Oil is such a stupid concept, seeing that free energy and reverse magnetism are so capable of being mass produced. Been around fora while. They keep the tesla tech/alien tech for themselves, charge us to play with tinker toys.
There are many lies that influence beliefs. The belief of a holy trinity. Simon Peter's teachings, the whole catholic myth. The debate of true christianity - both muslim and christian have it completly wrong, and stray further as time goes.
Ever wonder if God is trying to save the world, why it is such a mess? God's not trying to save us, we have to save ourselves by free will. God is a man made concept, used to stimulate the deepest known emotions/controls or man.
When what you have access to is controlled, it is harder to display free will. It takes a complete breakdown of the fabrication and a stillness. Motion and argument keep the illusion going. The karma, choice argument as we know it does the same thing. We can control our own energy, circumstances, and futures, but belief has to be deep. We need to transform our thought process. No person, political figure, religious figurehead will lead us in the right direction. It is so much larger than anything we have the scope to understand.
SO many people spit the same gloom and doom/end of days stuff, so it's easy to disregard what anyone says. I feel like these people should at least give some examples in current and past happenings how things are interconnected , and that rarely happens without including fabricated teachings/skewed history...
Speak for yourself.Quote:
...Our thoughts are not ours mostly...