I don't feel it is, she is a woman. Why should she say she is a transexual? She's a WOMAN. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Vala_TS
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I don't feel it is, she is a woman. Why should she say she is a transexual? She's a WOMAN. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Vala_TS
Actually Kelly, your scenario when you were 18 is a fantasy of mine. I am a marries straight man who adores t-girls. My fantasy is to romance a girl and become very close with her. We would caress, and touch and kiss but stop short of going further. Then, one night we get a little buzzed and are really horney. She would start playing with me and doing oral and then when I want to recipricate, wow! a raging hard on in my face. I am feeling faint just writing this...of course we finish the deed with her drilling me like there was no tomorrow, and I take my first taste of spunk. Oh if only this could ever happen.
Well good luck with your venture..but none of the guys I was with found out..I played the Virgin that just liked to suck cock :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by legman
I think every circle of friends needs 1 "virgin" girl to fill that role just for those special occasions were everyone gets plastered and wants blowjobs.
(Just my opinion.)
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DanZero
Like it or not a post op transexual is STILL a transexual, technically speaking. Know what I mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Vala,
5 people have answered to YES -- It's wrong and not one has stated their reasoning PECKERWOODS Lol
Not to me and many other men I have spoken to. I am not talking about tranny chasers I'm talking about straight guys --- alot have said they would date me and be with me if I had had the change downstairs. But they couldn't fathom it while I still had it Vala. A lot of the men on here are just about the cock...no offense to them. I am talking real life situations or with your everyday straight guy. Not one with a fantasy to get freaky with a chick who has a penis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vala_TS
Weird. Those must be pretty desperate guys! lol! Most guys would still be put off even without the whole penis thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Vala,
Kelly, this is like the Stealth Thread Lite, lol. I mean, a lighter look at the same issue. I don't think it's wrong at all. I think it's wrong to go deep stealth and never tell your husband, say, but other than a committed relationship, I don't think it's wrong at all.
Vala, the "correct" spelling is with two s's: trans-sexual, but in practice I think either way is OK.
Yes, I realize that is the "correct" spelling but something about that spelling just puts me off.
Vala,
I don't find that true if they see the looks of a woman they are definitely attracted to..has the personality they want for their woman...and has the voice of a woman. I don't think men are put off at all. I have never had one in person that has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vala_TS
This is kind of a longer story, but I have the time...Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I was out with my rugby team in Georgetown (DC), I play for a semi-pro team in DC. We were at a night club dancing & drinking and I saw this super hot chick. I moved over towards her because she looked like she wanted to dance. She danced, but it was somewhat standoffish. So I kind of moved on and ended up back at the bar. about an hour later she was in my vicinity & made eye contact again.
I had no idea she was ts, I totally thought she was a regular chick. I walked over to her and introduced myself & we talked for about 10-15 mins. I bought her a drink and she started making out with me, my buddies were all fooled as well - one was trying for her affections as well.
Ultimately, we got a cab together and she told me in the cab that she "had more to offer than a regular girl", being drunk, my inhibitions were down and I didn't understand what she meant, then she whispered that she was a transsexual.
My response was that I thought she was joking - I had hear of this sort of thing before, however I had never actually seen it. So, we hooked up, that night, it was better sex than I had ever had - simply amazing. (I topped her if you're wondering, I don't bottom).
Then we dated for some time after that (roughly a year & 1/2) and we broke up, amicably and still hook up on occasion. I'm not gonna pour out my life story in my 4th post so I'll end it now ;)
From another perspective, look at it this way:
Your looking at profiles online, and you see the hottest guy, right age, lots of stuff in common. You get to talking online, it seems too good to be true. Soul mate stuff. After several days on the phone, when all is going great, the 2 of you get together for dinner. Dinner couldn't be better, so you invite him over for a drink. Things go great and you suggest a sleep over...he says "I'd love to but I'm married. with 3 kids.....How does that make you feel?......Do you wish you knew that he was married up front?
Thats awesome thats sort of how it happened for my last ex but only I didn't trick him lolQuote:
Originally Posted by joeboz
Special K I don't take it that far I said I tell them after we talk and feel one another. I don't tell every guy though if I'm not interested in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by specialk
lol, good for you! I can't imagine how tough it must be to hit on a guy and wonder (or wonder when a guy is hitting on you).
What's the deal with the term "tranny chaser" is it derogatory? I guess since I'm relatively new to this site I don't know all the lingo.
I think tranny chaser means a lot of different things for different girls for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by joeboz
It's someone that is only wanting you for what you have downstairs and doesn't care to see you the next day or who or what you are about. It's purely physical more so even than a one night stand. That to me is a tranny chaser.
Ah, thanks - I was wondering while I was lurking through some threads - btw awesome pics in personals.
Oh and I'm not a "tranny chaser" by that definintion :) though, I do appreciate what a gurl has between her legs.
Thanks sweetyQuote:
Originally Posted by joeboz
But didn't you just say you dated a transexual?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeboz
Kelly, perhaps you missed the point of my post. You asked the members if we thought not being up front in a profile was ok or not. My post was asking you to figure it out from being on the recieving end of things. How would you feel if someone was less than upfront with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
The fact that you don't take it that far, is from your perspective only. Maybe someone who spent a short while on the phone with you sees it differently. Wishes he didn't even waist his time on a call, or buying you 1 drink in a club. If a person thinks they've been fooled or tricked from the onset, they might just be a little distrustfull about anything else the other person has to say or offer.
Special K I don't want to be viewed as a transexual, because of the judgements and assumptions of what we are about. I don't see the harm in not saying so at first online in a conversation? It doesn't make me who I am as a person certainly.Quote:
Originally Posted by specialk
yes, but by your definition you made it sound as if the tranny chaser does not necessarily care about her as a person, just an object to .... or did I misunderstand?Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
yeah and which case you did care about her no? If you decided to date her?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeboz
Yeah, we dated for a long time and I still care for & about her.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
And furthemore let me be more frank...when they think you are a genetic girl they want to work for you take you on a date etc..but as soon as you say you're a transexual it becomes "I'd still let you suck my dick" etc so yeah in that case it's not good lol And easy to point out that he wouldn't be a guy I'm interested in.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
But 9 out of 10 times after they talk to me for 20 minutes and then I tell them they are cool with it and still willing to take me on a date. And at least try it out and see what it's like to take a girl like myself out on a date...not sex a date.
AND I WAS TALKING PURELY ONLINE -- IN CLUBS I AM ALWAYS APT TO TELL THE GUY IF HE IS TRYING TO HARD..I DON'T ALLOW THEM TO BUY ME DRINKS AND I CERTAINLY DO NOT DANCE WITH THEM.
so why would you call yourself a tranny chaser?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeboz
As a heterosexual male it would be perfectly ok for you to post an ad as a woman. For a few different reasons, but most importantly because you feel, act and present yourself as a woman. If you are a woman at your very core. That is not what you are, but WHO you are.
Smart guy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pairodoxxx
I could probably debate that.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Just older and learning that you treat everyone as an individual. No matter who they are.
I said I am not a tranny chaser by your definition. I never said I was, I just didn't know what it meant. I like straight and ts porn, I enjoy dating genetic females as well as transsexual women. I think we understand each other. I like how women look and it doesn't really matter either way what she has between her legs, so long as she is pretty, feminine and smart - and if she shags like a minx, that a plus too...Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
SpecialK, I agree with you 100% and was even thinking of theQuote:
Originally Posted by specialk
example you set forth. My time is finite, thus I would want both
parties to be upfront about any information that would possibly
effect a prospective relationship.
Even though I am post op, and could potentially get away with not
sharing that information, I feel that would be deceitful and starting
the relationship out on the wrong foot.
Thanks Peggy. I think there may be a little confusion in this thread though.Quote:
Originally Posted by peggygee
I think Kelly meant to say ....is it OK to NOT post as a TS in an online profile. Obviously she would identify herself as a female for search reasons as Jen pointed out, then mention the TS part in the profile.
I was trying to get Kelly to see her question from another point of view, so she could maybe see the flipside of the coin if it happened to her.
Kelly's mention of not wanting to be viewed as a TS initially, just doesn't answer the question of right or wrong. It just says this is how I want handle it. I'm just trying to illustrate what it would be like to be on the receiving end of a little deception.
On Valas statement;
Vala, by now I would have assumed that you would have understoodQuote:
Originally Posted by Vala_TS
that the world of transsexuality does not revolve around
guys chasing t-girl cock, or seeing how many objects one can insert into
one's rectum.
As has been stated ad infinitum, ad nauseum, the gamut of transwomen
runs from the non op to the post op, with many stops on the continuum.
Contrary to the beliefs of the ill-informed the love life of a transwomen
does not cease by virtue of her having SRS.
Perhaps the tranny chasers will fall by the wayside, but the void is quickly
filled by those that are interested in her solely because of who she is
as an individual. Or by those that would experience angst bedding down
with someone who has a penis.
Thus there are many potential suitors both from the realm of those
that prefer transwomen and from men with a heterosexual predisposition.
Perhaps when you have been a transsexual a while longer,
you will find that this is neither weird nor are the parties involved
desperate.
:roll:
I agree with Jens approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by specialk
By all means I feel that it would be apropos to use a Female designation,
but I also feel that it would be prudent to mention a womens 'trans-status'
in her profile.
I really do not think that is right, and here is my reason.
MAYBE some guys won't care, and it will all work out, but like jenn said, you need to be up front and let them know the truth, because nothing will anger a straight man more than being 'tricked' into being gay...if you get my drift. And they may look at it that way.
Just by judging this forum, there are plenty of guys who want to be with a TS and do not consider themselves 'gay' as they are not attracted to men, so why not just stick with that??
I don't know if its a fantasy of your to 'tranny trick' them, but if you do some stuff like that...well, to say the least, its very risky. But you know all of this.
But I don't think its right, and I think it can lead to problems that aren't needed.
Tough to say. Obviously since I post here I wouldn't have a problem. But at the same time one can always feel like they were lied to.
It wouldn't bother me, but maybe just a little at first if the person wasn't totally honest with me. But if I liked her I would get over it.
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Originally Posted by KellyShore
If it is just for friends, then no. If it is for dating and hooking up, Yes.
How would you handle it if you were with a guy you really liked and you get together only to find out it was a female that transitioned???
I ask this in a non judgemental, and personable tone.
I for one would want to know. Yet I admit if I did not know, and found out later................It would not stop me. That is how I got into T-girls in the first place. Fool me once shame on you.................Fool me twice, shame on me.
Just be yourself. if you have fun doing it, I guess it is harmless enough. You can certainly pass as GG and I am sure it is good for your confidence also.
PS
Your new photo is WAY stunning.