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filghy2
There has definitely been a tendency in the technology area for first movers to not retain their market dominance. That seems to be happening with EVs as they become more mainstream.
https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/2...ones-ira-biden
I guess Musk can keep Twitter going as a loss-maker for some time, possibly with help from like-minded billionaires or foreign interests who find him a useful idiot. It serves his purposes as a narcissist and right-wing troll, and it's hard to see him getting as much attention if he wasn't running Twitter.
I agree 100%. Layered on top of the problem of other companies making electric vehicles he decided he wanted to make such polarizing statements that the half of the US more likely to buy his cars find him to be repellent (and he's strongly associated with the brand even if he stepped down as ceo). Even without alternatives, this was incredibly damaging.
We've seen it with other new technologies that the trailblazers can get outcompeted by the second-generation technology. Sometimes the second generation has an improved feature. Sometimes it's more compatible with whatever other products or services it would use. The barriers to entry for other automakers are falling.
I also think you're right about twitter. A billion dollars a year in interest is a lot but both the company and its owners have deep pockets. He can abandon it if it becomes too costly (corporate bankruptcy or sell his shares if they have any value with the debt financing assumed by the buyer). I don't know what Tesla's worth but it still has real value.
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broncofan
I agree 100%. Layered on top of the problem of other companies making electric vehicles he decided he wanted to make such polarizing statements that the half of the US more likely to buy his cars find him to be repellent (and he's strongly associated with the brand even if he stepped down as ceo). Even without alternatives, this was incredibly damaging.
The interesting question is why the same guy making such bad decisions now was successful earlier. Maybe Tesla's success had more to do with its employees, but at least he had the sense to give them the resources they needed and not interfere in destructive ways.
He seems to be a psychologically needy person who craves uncritical praise. While he was getting praise from liberals for developing EVs he was happy to play the bipartisan, which was also good business sense. But at some point ego got the better of judgement and he started to reveal his true inclinations.
Taking over Twitter was evidently the tipping point because criticism from liberals increased. The only way he could get the uncritical affirmation he needs has been to double down on appealing to the right. I think these psychological needs will have more influence on his future actions than will financial factors.
It seems to very hard for the ultra-rich to be ruined in the US, unless they they get caught in a spectacular fraud like Sam Bankman-Fried. Even if their businesses go bankrupt and the default on debts they can still walk away with massive assets and keep up the pretence of being a great success (see Trump, Donald).
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filghy2
It seems to very hard for the ultra-rich to be ruined in the US, unless they they get caught in a spectacular fraud like Sam Bankman-Fried. Even if their businesses go bankrupt and the default on debts they can still walk away with massive assets and keep up the pretence of being a great success (see Trump, Donald).
Two differences between Bankman-Fried and Trump are the type of assets they invested in and their class of victims. Bankman-Fried (a complete fraud) owned an asset class that as you've mentioned doesn't have much in the way of intrinsic value. Assuming Trump has not been honest in loan applications, banks still have an incentive to refinance to try to get back what they can. There's also some complicity by banks, who are supposed to be sophisticated and did not perform due diligence, even though they are regulated entities and insured, meaning there's also some element of moral hazard in their decisions to loan to him. He can be prosecuted whether banks want him to or not but it's harder when the immediate victim isn't vocal about being misled. In real estate, unless you have been way too aggressive or completely incompetent, it's hard not to get a decent amount of money out of properties. But your point is right...for people who have a lot of money and decent contingency planning, it's easy to protect your assets from multiple failed ventures.
I haven't followed Musk's career but my sense is that he started with more money than 99+% of people and had a childlike, grandiose interest in new technologies. His investment in them made him an unbelievable fortune but doesn't make him a genius. His problem is he wants to be regarded as such. Yesterday Tesla released end of the year financials. The earnings grew 40% year over year, falling short of the analyst expected 50%. At the beginning of the year the stock had a pe ratio of like 100, making an investment in it a 1% yield. Even with a 50% growth rate you can't justify the investment bc in the early years the yield is very bad and by the time the yield is better bc of earnings growth, the pe drops to that of a mature company bc earnings cannot grow indefinitely (or for an infinite period faster than the market it operates in). The price is falling today but yesterday the pe was 37, which was not cheap, but not terrible if one believes in the company and thinks it will continue to grow at similar rates in the near future. Problem is I wouldn't have much confidence in management, who has behaved in ways that have damaged the company's prospects for ego-driven reasons.
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Latest developments on the hypocrisy (and immature thin-skinned bastardry) of the not so free speech absolutist. It seems he's fallen out with a couple of his Twitter files collaborators who took him at his word.
https://www.thebulwark.com/so-much-f...peech-warrior/
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The guy certainly has an interesting approach to winning over customers - reduce the quality of the product, then ask people to pay for somewhat less of a reduction.
https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/11/4...heck-elon-musk
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Free speech for the Russian, Chinese, and Iranian governments:
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/21/11711...thats-over-now
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Some analysis of what went wrong with Starship:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...n-Musk-s-fault
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HERE’S THE TL;DR VERSION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE
The no-clamps slow throttle-up meant Starship stayed on the pad for a long time, throwing up concrete, rock, and sand all directions, damaging the pad, nearby facilities, and Starship itself.
By the time it left the pad, that debris had already destroyed three of Starship’s engines and likely damaged valves and systems that would lead to additional engine failures as well as an incorrect fuel mixture.
Starship was slow to reach every point in the flight plan, suggesting that other engines were not able to throttle up to compensate for the lost engines.
At what should have been stage separation, either software errors or more smashed hardware kept the main booster firing long after it should have shut down.
The result was an uncontrolled spin that required Starship to be destroyed.
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Some analysis of what went wrong with Starship:
Or just ask the experts-
How Do We Launch Things Into Space? | NASA Space Place – NASA Science for Kids
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Well, he has a NASA contract for designing a lunar lander.
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Fitzcarraldo
Well, he has a NASA contract for designing a lunar lander.
And delegate the task to Howard Wolowitz. They've worked together before. Washing dishes. And did it well.
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For those who aren't on twitter, I want to describe what it was like before and since Musk took over. Before I would like a video of people playing tennis and I would get recommended videos of people playing tennis.
Now it's like "you like tennis? Here's a video of a person on crutches being assaulted on a tennis court." There's this for you tab and it basically recommends every ignorant, gibbering, hateful soul you've ever encountered. For you: three people who called you an imposter Jew. Why's it for me? Because in his view of free speech, they call me names and there's a conversation to be had. Both sides. They may call you names, but you called them hateful so it's basically the same thing.
This last point just underlines why Musk's idea is so stupid. Many of the people who are on there are Nazis. Not because I call people I don't like Nazis but because colloquially speaking, they are obsessed with demonizing every non-white, non-Christian minority group. You are not encouraging dialogue by showing me what they have to say. Instead you are exposing me and other people to noxious stupidity, overt hatred, racist caricatures, violent videos, and anonymous people insinuating the day will come where they'll carry out public executions of the people they hate. It is absolutely idiotic to think there's a responsible business that should host those views.
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broncofan
For those who aren't on twitter, I want to describe what it was like before and since Musk took over. Before I would like a video of people playing tennis and I would get recommended videos of people playing tennis.
Now it's like "you like tennis? Here's a video of a person on crutches being assaulted on a tennis court." There's this for you tab and it basically recommends every ignorant, gibbering, hateful soul you've ever encountered. For you: three people who called you an imposter Jew. Why's it for me? Because in his view of free speech, they call me names and there's a conversation to be had. Both sides. They may call you names, but you called them hateful so it's basically the same thing.
This last point just underlines why Musk's idea is so stupid. Many of the people who are on there are Nazis. Not because I call people I don't like Nazis but because colloquially speaking, they are obsessed with demonizing every non-white, non-Christian minority group. You are not encouraging dialogue by showing me what they have to say. Instead you are exposing me and other people to noxious stupidity, overt hatred, racist caricatures, violent videos, and anonymous people insinuating the day will come where they'll carry out public executions of the people they hate. It is absolutely idiotic to think there's a responsible business that should host those views.
I didn't realize now bad it can get. I read an article in the Telegraph the other day, freed by Yahoo from the paywall but no longer available, in which the author taking her cue from Carlson, argues too much 'news' in the Media is not news at all, but people shouting at you, being angry, even hysterical, making wild and unverified accusations as if there really was a 'deep state' that is out to turn you into an obedient zombie. But who is trying to take you down the road to mind numbing slavery shaped by a 19th century concept of Race in which you can never be a 'legacy American' or even just an American? The same people! It used to be the case that these views were on the fringe because that is where they belonged, along with the Trotskyists and the Eugenicists. The internet may have opened up a platform for such people they could only have dreamed of before, and it does expose the worms wriggling around in the dirt. But people with responsibility should prove they have the right to own it, eg Musk, and make editorial decisions that do not create the permissive environment in which raw abuse is valued as 'free speech' in equal terms to genuine news and information.
My assumption is that if you haven't deleted your Twitter account, you are going to do it soon -?
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I'm not a prolific twitter user, but I can't see much difference. The "You might like" recommendations still look reasonable and what I'd expect to see.
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That's interesting. There are two differences I notice. One is in the "for you" tab on the left that refreshes the timeline. The "followers" tab is exactly the same and I use it but it took me a second to figure out that I was always on the "for you" tab which I think it defaults to.
And the primary difference in the for you tab is that when I used to get "you might like" recommendations in the past it was always based on things I had pressed the like button on or that someone I follow likes. It was never based on who I interacted with. They didn't used to have a for you tab but that's not really important bc the main tab used to be based on an algorithm of interaction in the same way, just I believe a different one. You used to be able to hit a button at the top right if you wanted just your followers without ai trying to figure out how to customize your timeline.
But I'll give you an example of who is coming up on my timeline that never did before. It's based on the fact that I quote tweeted them to say something negative, and got a bunch of their followers on my timeline who I argued with. And I express the same views there that I do here (I promise I'm not an election denier on twitter lol).
So Mike Cernovich, who is alt-right imo. Jake Shields, an mma fighter who recently came pretty close to incitement against trans people. I'm not going to repeat what he said but if you're on the app you can type in "Jake Shields trans" and look at the tab for top results. I get recommended his tweets all the time. I don't follow him, I've never liked a single thing he's said, but me and some others have responded to a bunch of dumb stuff he's said about "fat women". I also never used to get recommended fight videos of basically personally recorded street fights, some of them involving felony assaults. I've never liked any of the videos and the only connection is that I watch mma and boxing. I know some might say there's the connection but before 5 or 6 months ago I never saw that stuff and have no interest in someone sucker punching someone else or slamming someone on their head onto pavement. For one week when Kyrie Irving had posted a video about how modern Jews aren't really Jews and i responded to one or two tweets, I was recommended all kinds of Black Hebrew Israelite propaganda. It didn't cause me any distress but it was just different and I noticed the change right away.
The only other difference is that I think moderation is closer to 2015-16 levels than it was between 2019 and 2021. 2015 it was close to a free for all there. It might not be as unrestrained now but look underneath any Anti-defamation league tweet. Every single tweet by them is completely bombarded by Nazis. Around 2019 or 2020 these people were getting their accounts suspended with a few reports rather than 12 hour locks that they come back from. Again, my impression is that 2015-16 were that bad but the "censors" everyone complained about from 2019-2020 who Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss claim they exposed were banning people like that. They were banning people for obvious medical disinfo, and election denial.
Which comes to Stavros' question about whether I'll leave. I won't because I can avoid those people if I am deliberate. I'm not using my real name, have no information that someone can use to locate me, and I am seeing these tweets for two reasons. A lot of my followers and the people I follow argue with these lowlives. And I have responded to things they've said. It's just I never got recommended their stuff ever in the past and the street fight videos are definitely a new thing. Those accounts should simply be banned. They broadcast people getting paralyzed and getting life threatening injuries or in some cases being killed. I'm not saying they were never anywhere on twitter before as I wouldn't know but I never got recommended them and I do regularly now.
I am in a group chat with about 30 people. We talked about this last night and it was half and half about whether they thought there was a difference. It could be based on how one uses twitter. It could of course be some confirmation bias but that's more likely for me on the number of bad accounts I've seen in general versus what i'm recommended bc I never had headscratching choices before.
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I just refreshed and got recommended a rightwing guy named Tim Young with nearly a million followers. It's not the majority of my recommendations but it used to be zero.
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Broncofan, on the one hand I can understand the need people have to constantly challenge the Neo-Nazis, or just Nazis since I am not sure what is Neo about them. On the other hand, it seems futile to me because with very few exceptions, they never listen to an alternative argument and never change. There have been some instances of change, in the UK the case of Ray Hill is particularly important and you may have heard of him (link to his obituary below), but on the whole I think your mental health is going to suffer if you are constantly on the front line of a media war you cannot win.
Again, it is up to those who control the 'system' to be responsible about this. Age old, debunked theories of Race are not news, they are not even opinion but iron-clad dogma as irretrievable as Flat Earth fanatics. The hate embedded in their discourse disqualifies it from being valued, so unless Musk can defend his editorial decisions, I think the shareholders should get rid of him, if that is possible.
Ray Hill-
Former neo-nazi Ray Hill who brought down Leicester's far-right movement dies aged 82 - Leicestershire Live (leicestermercury.co.uk)
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https://twitter.com/ADL/status/1651307708480626688
So here is a random ADL tweet from very recent. Most of their tweets are like this and I've seen worse (though obviously I chose the worst one I could see in a couple minutes). The next one is about a synagogue attack in early 2022 before Elon's tenure and there are only four responses. A shame what two of the responses are but it was not what looks like a coordinated response from Nazis. Now, under any tweet about antisemitism, it is what looks like a 4 chan directed assault of asswipes. I chose ADL because I can remember it but I've seen some bad stuff that I haven't seen in five or so years. (as an aside I understand my sampling techniques leave something to be desired but I tried. The difference is that ADL tweets used to have similar likes but about three or four comments. Now, they have tons of people directing hateful mockery.
https://twitter.com/ADL/status/1483076655153225728
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Stavros
Broncofan, on the one hand I can understand the need people have to constantly challenge the Neo-Nazis, or just Nazis since I am not sure what is Neo about them. On the other hand, it seems futile to me because with very few exceptions, they never listen to an alternative argument and never change. There have been some instances of change, in the UK the case of Ray Hill is particularly important and you may have heard of him (link to his obituary below), but on the whole I think your mental health is going to suffer if you are constantly on the front line of a media war you cannot win.
Again, it is up to those who control the 'system' to be responsible about this. Age old, debunked theories of Race are not news, they are not even opinion but iron-clad dogma as irretrievable as Flat Earth fanatics. The hate embedded in their discourse disqualifies it from being valued, so unless Musk can defend his editorial decisions, I think the shareholders should get rid of him, if that is possible.
Ray Hill-
Former neo-nazi Ray Hill who brought down Leicester's far-right movement dies aged 82 - Leicestershire Live (leicestermercury.co.uk)
You're exactly right. I have to admit it was not super smart or good for me to engage with these people. It didn't help anyone either....
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https://twitter.com/ADL/status/1650577100917596207
This is a good example. I didn't used to see responses like this under tree of life tweets. The other one mentioned Israel but this is just a Tree of Life tweet. They could easily get rid of the ghouls stalking that account and they did a bit more than a year ago or for some reason they weren't really there.
This is a tweet about the Tree of Life synagogue in 2021. https://twitter.com/ADL/status/1453345829671026689?s=20
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I'm sorry about my posts in this thread. I had a bit too much time on my hands and messed up the thread a bit.
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Stavros
On the other hand, it seems futile to me because with very few exceptions, they never listen to an alternative argument and never change.
In fact, they thrive on creating diversions and provoking emotional reponses. Like all trolls, their aim if to gain applause from like-minded people and annoy the other side.
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broncofan
That's interesting. There are two differences I notice. One is in the "for you" tab on the left that refreshes the timeline. The "followers" tab is exactly the same and I use it but it took me a second to figure out that I was always on the "for you" tab which I think it defaults to.
I think the difference may be that I've been going straight to the twitter pages I'm interested in, which don't have a "For you" tab. I only see that if I go to the twitter home page, and it's a bunch of really random stuff. Interestingly, the top of the "Who to follow" list on that page is Tucker Carlson.
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filghy2
I think the difference may be that I've been going straight to the twitter pages I'm interested in, which don't have a "For you" tab. I only see that if I go to the twitter home page, and it's a bunch of really random stuff. Interestingly, the top of the "Who to follow" list on that page is Tucker Carlson.
That's a healthy way to use twitter. That's not how a lot of twitter addicts use it. I click the home button mindlessly and scroll whatever pops up. It reminds me of that Sarah Palin interview where she was asked what newspapers she reads and she said "whatever they put in front of me."
I realize some of my tweets in this thread were pointless. I was as they say on the right, slightly triggered by some folks. I shut down my twitter account until Monday, when I'll be well rested to start getting irritated all over again.
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The trick with social media is to make sure you use it for your purposes, rather than letting the platforms use you for their purposes. Don't get sucked into the outrage generation machine.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abe5641
How social learning amplifies moral outrage expression in online social networks
Abstract
Moral outrage shapes fundamental aspects of social life and is now widespread in online social networks. Here, we show how social learning processes amplify online moral outrage expressions over time. In two preregistered observational studies on Twitter (7331 users and 12.7 million total tweets) and two preregistered behavioral experiments (N = 240), we find that positive social feedback for outrage expressions increases the likelihood of future outrage expressions, consistent with principles of reinforcement learning. In addition, users conform their outrage expressions to the expressive norms of their social networks, suggesting norm learning also guides online outrage expressions. Norm learning overshadows reinforcement learning when normative information is readily observable: in ideologically extreme networks, where outrage expression is more common, users are less sensitive to social feedback when deciding whether to express outrage. Our findings highlight how platform design interacts with human learning mechanisms to affect moral discourse in digital public spaces.
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There are no tricks here -just vacate the space. It might be because of my age, but I have never seen the point of Twitter other than as an instant news feed for politics and commerce. At one time there were multiple alt.this groups, then yahoo groups and like myspace they have all gone. By the time of their demise they had become flooded with spam and I don't see how Musk can maintain Twitter in its original form if he refuses to exert any editorial control over the content.
I suppose there has always been a deep well of abuse but most of the time we never heard it or read it, but I do think since Murdoch took over UK newspapers in the late 1960s he has nurtured a culture of vulgarity, complaint, grievance and abuse to stir up 'the people' against the Government and the State. He loathes both, and to detach the people from their Govt he needs to prove that politicians are permanent liars and frauds, but has also selected people in sport and entertainment to be targets of ridicule and abuse, even if, as Hugh Grant now claims, it means breaking the law through burglaries, phone hacking, stalking and so on. In any previous incarnation of democracy and the rule of law, Murdoch in the UK would have been declared unfit to own a media company and banned.
Once Murdoch established abuse as a norm, the rest piled in. This is different from Satire, such as is used in the UK by the weekly paper Private Eye, or on tv in the 1960s by a programme on the BBC called That Was The Week That Was. At the time, it was rare to see politicians lampooned at all -but there was no malice involved, although Private Eye for some time has been a vehicle for Govt disinformation, conspiracy theories and questionable ethics. Satire if done properly can always be seen for what it is, whereas with Murdoch there is dark, malevolent project at work, and I think Musk is part of the loop that regard politics with contempt and Markets as greater than God.
Finally this: all these hymns to individual liberty, orchestrated by men who want you to conform to their version of Markets, their version of Freedom, their version of Free Speech. But other Versions are available, if only we had the power to bring them to the centre stage where they belong.
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There are no tricks here -just vacate the space. It might be because of my age, but I have never seen the point of Twitter other than as an instant news feed for politics and commerce.
I agree with your post but I want to add why I think twitter has been very popular. The best way to use it is to just find what you're looking for on there and move on but that's a responsible use. It sucks people in because you can constantly refresh it to keep being fed things that will feed your outrage/intrigue meter and can be a kind of mindless entertainment akin to dumping coins in a slot machine to get 90% of your money back.
Every once in a while it is an incredible app for schadenfreude on a mass scale and is the most fun when there's a scandalous report of some kind or some jerk has embarrassed themselves. On those nights it's a place where you can hear the laughter of 10,000 "friends". Ted Cruz liking cuckold porn or Kurt Eichenwald posting a screenshot that showed a trove of tentacle porn, which he tried to explain in a way that was worse than if he just said he enjoys seeing illustrated octopae have sex. The scandals don't always involve men accidentally revealing what porn they like but sometimes people say incredibly dumb, hypocritical things and it does feel like you can laugh at their hypocrisy and gullibility in real time.
Here is what's bad about it in addition to what you said. When something is revealed that supports some bias, you refresh your page and interact with those who agree, but the demand for actual news becomes greater than the supply. The supply is bottlenecked by things that actually happen. You can't make more things happen by refreshing your page. So, you can probably figure out what people do. Eventually you see a tweet that there are 50,000 ballots in a dumpster with a Chinese shipping receipt and nobody bothers to ask what that means or consider that it's definitely false. And the debate that Musk brought was that twitter shouldn't be legislating what's true. But it is a system that rewards confabulation and benefits from it so of course it should.
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filghy2
The trick with social media is to make sure you use it for your purposes, rather than letting the platforms use you for their purposes. Don't get sucked into the outrage generation machine.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abe5641
How social learning amplifies moral outrage expression in online social networks
Abstract
Moral outrage shapes fundamental aspects of social life and is now widespread in online social networks. Here, we show how social learning processes amplify online moral outrage expressions over time. In two preregistered observational studies on Twitter (7331 users and 12.7 million total tweets) and two preregistered behavioral experiments (N = 240), we find that positive social feedback for outrage expressions increases the likelihood of future outrage expressions, consistent with principles of reinforcement learning. In addition, users conform their outrage expressions to the expressive norms of their social networks, suggesting norm learning also guides online outrage expressions. Norm learning overshadows reinforcement learning when normative information is readily observable: in ideologically extreme networks, where outrage expression is more common, users are less sensitive to social feedback when deciding whether to express outrage. Our findings highlight how platform design interacts with human learning mechanisms to affect moral discourse in digital public spaces.
That's really interesting. What's worrying is that if the each group consensus forms around various falsehoods it's difficult to convince people they're wrong within the social media framework. And if the app captures a lot of people's attention, it becomes much tougher to get people to hear you outside of it. Not only does it capture people's attention but it probably in the long run shortens their attention span for more demanding types of discourse and thought.
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I agree with your post but I want to add why I think twitter has been very popular. .
I understand what you say, but I prefer a different response to the stories which expose the hypocrisy of someone like Rafael Cruz. For example, I have found the articles by Heather Cox Richardson, but that is also because I don't need to know something in 5 seconds of reading. I guess a younger generation cannot cope with anything longer than 2 minutes.
I once fed money into a slot machine, would have been delighted to get 9% of my money back. I didn't!
Letters from an American | Heather Cox Richardson | Substack
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"Twitter owner Elon Musk has suggested he and Mark Zuckerberg should have “a literal dick-measuring contest” in the latest broadside aimed at his rival billionaire."
Elon Musk goes low against Zuckerberg as Twitter-Threads spat intensifies | Elon Musk | The Guardian
Seriously? And who wants to see their dicks anyway? I am tempted to say 'Grow Up!' but they have still a long, long way to go.
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Well, at least Elon has a Taliban endorsement going for him:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgwg...r-over-threads
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Completely agree,nobody wants to see that.
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Fitzcarraldo
Yes unfortunately. Elon Muskrat should keep his despicable and disgusting comments to himself.
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The latest thought bubble from the genius is to rebrand Twitter as X, ditching the famous blue bird symbol. He seems to have a thing about the letter X, even using it for one of his kids names.
Apparently X represents the unknown variable, which is supposed to symbolise the unlimited potential of his grandiose 'everything app' plan. As usual, he just comes across as a nerd trying too hard to be cool but failing.
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