Munroe is just racist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw-awlWBCP0
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Munroe is just racist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw-awlWBCP0
Congratulations to Munroe Bergdorf for being appointed adviser to the Labour Party's LGBT+ Advisory Group where she will work wth Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities, Dawn Butler.
"Thrilled to announce that I've been asked to be part of an LGBT+ advisory board for The Labour Party - To advise Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities, Dawn Butler MP, on issues affecting the LGBT+ community, to help form and push through fairer and more effective policy change."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43211136
I am not a Labour voter, but I applaud the party's determination to recruit people from diverse backgrounds and sexual orientation in its preparations for government, whenever, or if ever that might be.
Yup...she’s doing just fine. And looking fine as well.
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except that judging by some of her statements - she isn't unlike many of the bigots she opposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
All jest aside; I make a lot of jest, it's not in snyones immediate Interests to give due consideration to her points. On the flip side, she is quite bang on - remember interventions arent cosy affairs... judging by recent socio-politicsl tangents, a certain laissez-faire approach to the realities of the colonised and subjugated is being normalised ad infinitum. Just because she makes yoi uncomfortable, doesnt make her a liar. We're all part and parcel of a certain legacy, and its pulse is as steady as ever... HA is actually quite an adequate microcosm of the wider world 💯🙊👌
but weren't the romans enslaved or murdered by the Persian empire? and didn't the Persians enslave any race they took over?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongTom101
As far as I'm concerned, people can take that word 'racist' and shove it up their ass.
I don't know that Munroe is a bigot, or if she should be judged by one comment taken out of context, but it does appear that she is being attacked, when attacked, for not being perfect. That she is as human as you or I makes it inevitable that she will make mistakes, but is it not a curious thing that while some people can make multiple mistakes and yet continue in public office, others just get the one chance, and if it happens they are from an ethnic minority, or female, or transgendered one chance is all they will get.Quote:
Originally Posted by slave2u
Gary Yonge has written a perceptive article comparing the career of Boris Johnson to any Black woman attempting to emulate his career path, pointing out that whereas Johnson has made numerous sexist and racist comments he has always been 'forgiven' just as he was sacked from The Times for printing lies about the EU and then went to the Telegraph which has never employed a black person of any gender to write their leader column. Asked a few days ago to account for the £40 million plus wasted on the Garden Bridge across the Thames when Mayor of London, he shrugged his shoulders as if it was just not important. Thus
If Johnson were a black woman, he’d have to be totally beyond reproach or he’d long since be finished
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ge-black-woman
Maybe Munroe should be given a chance to prove she can be an effective voice for the LGVT+ people she is asked to represent.
i have never understood the arguement that says because person a said something wrong, person b gets a free pass to say something just as wrong. does that mean that person c also gets to say something just as wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
some of the attacks on her prove munroe's point.
but equally some have argued that it is a bit odd to criticise hate speech/thought by using hate speech.
not all whites are racist.
equally not all BAME's are blameless when it comes exercising racism of their own. (the unspoken aspect of racism).
that munroe can make her bold statements is a good thing, and long may she continue to do so. however i am not sure such a voice is one that can work allied to an establishment party.
and can someone who seems to not be too keen on certain sections of society really help the lgbt+ community given that a great many of them come from those sections.
Why doesnt society teach true empathy, you guys have no idea how demeaning you all collectively make this - direct and ugly insults are so much more painless than the apathetic and concession makers... nobody has replaced the humanity that was stolen, the idea of racial hierarchy is so ingrained in this society, thag everyone BAME has to suffer indignity daily 😄 even with the parades of broken black holocaust survivors in white women wigs, and songs a plenty by black artists about the commitment to perpetuating the self loathing thats part of a traumatised legacy... you still dont get it... im not saying you're all racist... im saying BAME people are seriously non-engaging these dialogues by and large, because the cognitive dissonance is tiring...
That is not the point I was trying to make, which is that some people say outrageous things in public and remain in their job while others only get the one chance. In other words, why do some people get a 'free pass' and others are shown the exit? And is there a link between 'race', gender and opportunity, between reward and punishment?Quote:
Originally Posted by slave2u
simple answer is i am not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
boris seems to be a case apart from anyone - i suspect it is mostly to do with the idea he is better kept in the fold than blundering around in the wild.
mostly i suspect that it is a revolving door of "give it a little time and we'll have you back, doing something else".
however now with people making arses of themselve on social media and people being able to trawl through what they have said and get an 'i am offended' campaign going it is going to be harder for less established people to keep roles. look at toby young.
and harder for them to come back.
whether this is a good thing or not is a difficult question. should people be held responsible for a comment made several years ago (l'oreal's recent muslim hair model) or should we be more interested in their recent actions/words? have they changed?
it does seem that with social media - if you say one thing, even obviously in jest to a mate (some of the things munroe has been slated for are to and about pals) that one thing is enough, everything else is discounted. because far from allowing us to look at issues in all their complexity we are forced to deal in impossible absolutes.
so in the social media age perhaps your initial question needs to be restated to take into account internet 'moral outrage'.
Munroe has now quite her unpaid post with the Labour Party following relentless harassment by Daily Mail and other so-called 'newspapers'.
"This is a decision that I've had to make due to endless attacks on my character by the conservative right wing press and relentless online abuse. I refuse to be painted as a villain or used as a pawn in the press' efforts, especially those at The Daily Mail, to discredit the Labour Party and push their transphobic rightist agendas.
"I wanted my appointment to be something positive and exciting for the community, but instead it has turned into nasty tabloid fodder, blown out of all proportion."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8241746.html