WORKING GIRLS AND WHY

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Originally Posted by Chica

that's one of the best posts i've ever seen, it's all true, and people can't say it's wrong. if you're a TS and on less than average - average income, you're screwed and gotta do it. if your family doesn't like it, you got no one to turn to. so i guess im in the shit then. i don't wanna do escorting, i don't wanna appear on loads of websites (tho i nearly did thru desperation)... no wonder im always feeling down and think im fucked in the head

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if you look THE WORLD AROUND you - how many Ts every does this it's all about you isn't it - there are millions, no, billions, of people that are in worse conditions than you. humanhood is not just looking into you but also around you. nobody can get everything she wants. everybody learns to make compromises - i can't have this because of a,b,c...; i can have this but i have to do a,b,c ... to get it - it's about priotizing and learning what is realistic and what is not. if you want something that deparately you'll find a way to get it but don't expect it to be at no expenses. it's all part of life. i feel pain for all people suffering, you, myself, other ts, but come on, my family member is fighting terminal cancer now, there are kids in africa dying from starvation right at this moment...

Yasmin you are not only very goodlooking but very smart and realistic.
And you are absolutely right.
Most of the guys who go with a working girl do it for the sex, after the "deal" has been made they want to get the hell out of there.
They use the girls as an object.
Not all the guys but a lot.

What you didn't say and should be talked about is that some of the working girls have boyfriends. Ofcourse that is normal but what i consider not te be normal is that they still keep working when having this relation with this boyfriend. I understand the girl but not the boyfriend.
What is he? He cannot support his girlfriend? That makes him a pimp in my book.
Maybe i am wrong.
I really like to know what Allanah has to say about that. After all she has a boyfriend...

Not going to try to discredit Yasmin here, but I'm going to just hang back for a minute too.

No dude...it doesn't make the boyfriend a pimp! Sometimes it's all about the situation...unless the boyfriend is "well-paid"...he probably can't cater to a lot of the expenses that his girl may have/want. And in the beginning of a relationship I don't think the boyfriend is just going to up and start paying all her bills and shit. It's hard knowing your girlfriend use to sell herself for sex whether not she's still doing it or not, it WILL fuck with you from time to time, but if there is love you can always work through that! If a girls boyfriend could pay all her shit do you think she would still sell herself? Maybe if she want her own money or more money...but I think mostly not. If it's someone she really cares about hurting I think she would stop if he wants her to. It's all about the situation though my dude! Like I said it's not easy for either side of the relationship!

So are you saying prostitution is the last resort you girls can count on to make money even if you have a high education?

legend, well here i was one day predicted high grades, bam, my mum passes away with cancer, i took 3 months off school, come back 2 days to revise EVERY subject, and i failed everything. i've heard others with good grades, and themselves being forced into prostitution because of large debts... £17,000 is the average student debt... thats like $35,000... may not seem like a lot, but living in the UK is a bit more expensive than the rest of the world

girlyg, do you realise how hard it is for people less priveleged than others to actually get even £1000 in their bank? i was ecstatic with £100, and i was reading the other day in the paper for a full transition it's more like £30,000... im almost 20, struggling for a job, an unsupportive family, a town hall that would prefer to give homes to druggies or alcoholics, and you say people are worse off? well i always got told take care of number 1, and that's me, if i had the money to help, i would... but i dont have the money to help myself right now

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Originally Posted by Chica

girlyg, do you realise how hard it is for people less priveleged than others to actually get even £1000 in their bank? i was ecstatic with £100, and i was reading the other day in the paper for a full transition it's more like £30,000... im almost 20, struggling for a job, an unsupportive family, a town hall that would prefer to give homes to druggies or alcoholics, and you say people are worse off? well i always got told take care of number 1, and that's me, if i had the money to help, i would... but i dont have the money to help myself right now

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where i'm from, my parents worked for 15 to 18 hours a day 6 days a week in the field and a factory to earn less than $100 a month to support a 6 person family. and that's considered a rather decent living compared to others in the rural areas. meantime in the cities, millionaires squander away money in every way they can. still yet all my siblings went to colleges because we worked hard and earned scholarships and have good jobs now. circumstances, environments, "my transistion", "i'm less previliged"... you think i haven't heard enough excuses witnessing and going through survival games in life? you want to win, stop making excuses and start working harder!! billions of people are worse off than you if you look around the whole world with a population of nearly 6 billions! prositution is hardly a glorious option but if it gets what you want most, kudo to you. just don't whine like a victim of circumstances, or wear it on your nose as if it were the most glorious choice you can make in your life.

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Originally Posted by girlyg

I've got a 28 y/o beautiful single mother friend with a rare chronic disease that causes her acute pains sometimes. She's struggling with two jobs and trying to raise two kids. I shall tell her to start escorting since a: she's in need of A LOT OF money to pay living expenses b: since she's so busy all the time she doesn't have time to gloom herself that much so she can't get that much attention, satisfaction, affection from MANY MANY, A LOT OF, ALL men. she does have ONE nice bf who helps her to fix up things but not much financially though. They are just getting by. c: she grew up in housing project so her family don't have a penny to spare for her. her only brother is in prison. she can only hope that he leaves her alone. since she can't get support from her family she should start escorting. d: if she escorts, she can not only afford nicer places, better stuff, maybe even plastic surgeries, but also she can save enough money to send her kids to private schools even ivy league universities! ... Oh the good reasons go on and on and on. All single mothers, struggling actresses/actors, McDonal workers shall start escorting TODAY. Who hasn't got endless bills to pay, who doesn't want to sleep until 3:00 pm, who doesn't want plastic surgeries that make you look 10 years younger... Anybody who does not escort is just stupid.

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I tottaly agree and co-sign.
And i am going to expand it.

Why shouldnt men escort as well?

I have a phd in engineering, i work 12 hours a day minimum and i earn just as much money as i need to live in comfort.
I will explain comfort:
I live in Athens - Greece
I own a house, a 1600 cc car, and i am capable of travelling twice a year.
I dont go out really often because i have no time/energy.
I dont have priceless art paintings at home, but have a full refrigirator.
Finaly, i can spoil myself bying little toys such as a new camera or a new laptop and thats it.
Keep in mind that i work as a highly educated excecutive, having a very nice job for the country standards.

And i just live in comfort. Cant save, cant think of the future, cant really leave things behind for my family.
And i studied for several years, worked various jobs to support my studies, and climbed on the professional scale step by step.
Unfair?

So, it would be very easy for me to say
"oh, come on, why dont i keep company to rich ladies for 200 € per hour"
I am 34, very good looking and really well endowed.

I chose to work my ass of, creating a career, and settle down to what i have and not to what i could have.

I really cant give no alliby to anyone that escorts because of needs.
Everyone has needs.
Simply, some of us fullfil our needs and make a living the hard way.
On the other hand, some dont

Thats all i have to say.

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Originally Posted by TomSelis

Not going to try to discredit Yasmin here, but I'm going to just hang back for a minute too.

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I think I'm going to adopt this as my general standpoint also.

I'm still brainwerking the analogous comparison of a McDonald's worker (Who may or may not be discriminated against for their gender) and a TS (Who is more than likely to be discriminated against for their gender - Or lack thereof in some views - and their sexuality as well).

:popcorn

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Originally Posted by BeardedOne

I'm still brainwerking the analogous comparison of a McDonald's worker (Who may or may not be discriminated against for their gender) and a TS (Who is more than likely to be discriminated against for their gender - Or lack thereof in some views - and their sexuality as well).

:popcorn

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Current American labor laws prohibit employers from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientations but do not protect employees who are maybe, hmmm..., a little bit slow... but... not enough to claim disabilities... or don't speak good enough english... or are a little bit old and infirm but not enough to claim disabilities... or too young and unstable... :oops: :oops: :oops: Oops i said it... no offense anybody this is stereotyping.