Wow the 2007 posters in this thread are fucking retarded
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Wow the 2007 posters in this thread are fucking retarded
Please someone get rid of this thread and these trolls
Wow,you folks are over reacting, seriously , I just expressed an idea, why the hostility, the insults ? And I did admit earlier ... a beaten dog....
Because it's ignorant, insulting, and contributes to an atmosphere of hostility towards transsexuals. Whether you meant such things by your comment or not, that's how your statement was read by those who have to live this life.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitron
"Because it's ignorant,"...yes I can see that ,because we can't control how we feel entirley. But insulting...How so? . And contributes to an atmosphere of hostility towards Trans ....Why? do you mean that society might view somehow Transsexuals as being more prone to irrationality? Hell we're all prone to that . And I'm keeping my arguments strictly to this sight, so just how damaging are my comments? To whom?I have'nt swore if by that you mean insulting.
Because your commentary on the genitalia of transpeople reduces the whole and human person that is a transsexual to a mere satisfaction of curiousity regarding a salacious and, for the non-trans world, deeply private detail. Imagine going into a job interview and the second or third question is "how long is your penis? What's it girth? Does it curve to the side when erect? Do the veins bulge?" Such questioning would be completely inappropriate, deeply invasive of privacy, show utter disrespect, and treat you as less than an adult, real, human being. People intuitively recognize this and thus, with non trans people, would never dream of asking such details of a person, particularly of one they have just met. Yet with trans people it is somehow completely okay to ask what their genitals look like these days -- Katie Couric recently asked Carmen Carerra and Laverne Cox this particular question, ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. The effect is to reduce transpeople from human beings to mere curiosities who should expect neither dignity nor respect and who should satisfy the perverse and dehumanizing inquiries of their non-trans betters. That's offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitron
As for contributing to hostility, we've already established that such perverse fascination with genitals is fundamentally dehumanizing, and when you don't view someone as fully human, that gives you moral permission to treat them in ways that would otherwise be morally impermissable. This is why people seem to think it's okay to call a transwoman a man or vice-versa, to taunt and mock transpeople in public, to deny transpeople medical care, to discriminate in employment and housing on the basis of a transperson's identity, and to have political party operatives state that transsexuals should be rounded up and put in concentration camps (!). In each case, it is hostile behavior stemming from seeing a transperson not as a person, but as something less than human, and that attitude begins when the public at large thinks its okay to invade the privacy of trans people simply because they are different.
The best thing about this thread is that it's allowing Miss Meadows to focus on something besides her troubles...could be good self-therapy; adjusting one's own emotional gyroscope is a good thing.
If it was in the context of a job interview, not in a porn-Trans friendly forum. Yes.
Trans-friendly forum....nail in the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitron
Instead of saying what you had in your OP, you could have said something a bit more friendly such as, "What impact does SRS have on a Transsexual and why is it an end goal for some and not others?"
That, sounds more intelligent and respectful. It shows you are thirsty for information without insulting. Just chat with us like we are human...which we are. I bet a lot of money that if you had said what you said in your OP in real life to a singular TS or even within a group of TS mingled with TS admirers, you would be ridiculed for your ignorance and disrespect.
Don't feed the trolls.
~BB~