Happy Birthday Benjamin Franklin

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

Ben also said, "A stitch in time, saves nine". America is strong enough under the present leader, to try and save you libs from islamic domination. The former regime was absolutely impotent, when it came to confronting the problem. Now the "progressives", would rather berate Christians, because they think it is politically correct.

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Sad, waffle boy, sad answer. Actually, no answer. Guess we hersh yo mowf.

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

Sad, waffle boy, sad answer. Actually, no answer. Guess we hersh yo mowf.

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Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin

There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
Benjamin Franklin

All wars are follies, very expensive and very mischievous ones.
Benjamin Franklin

Wars are not paid for in wartime, the bill comes later.
Benjamin Franklin

Even peace may be purchased at too high a price.
Benjamin Franklin

When will mankind be convinced and agree to settle their difficulties by arbitration?
Benjamin Franklin

The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.
Benjamin Franklin

somehow, I don't think Frankin would support the war in Iraq.

FK

Not muslim domination dumbass. ISLAMIST domination.

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

Ben also said, "A stitch in time, saves nine". America is strong enough under the present leader, to try and save you libs from islamic domination. The former regime was absolutely impotent, when it came to confronting the problem. Now the "progressives", would rather berate Christians, because they think it is politically correct.

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Fuck off troll.

This is a thread about a REAL American.

Go watch NASCAR or something.

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Originally Posted by Quinn

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Originally Posted by flabbybody

my vote for favorite founding father is Hamilton. He lived in Manhattan and distrusted slave-owning Southerners. He, more than anyone else, knew the new country needed a strong currency in order to survive. He created the Federal Reserve Bank that regulates money supply and interest rates to this very day. Hamilton was the person that George Washington counted on the most.

his downfall was picking a fight with a guy that had a faster trigger finger.

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He was my favorite founding father for many of the same reasons. Out of their number, he seemed to have the best sense of exactly who he was as a person. Regarding the duel, he knew he was almost certainly going to die, but he went anyway. In preperation, he wrote the following to his wife:

If it had been possible for me to have avoided the interview, my love for you and my precious children would have been alone a decisive motive. But it was not possible, without sacrifices which would have rendered me unworthy of your esteem. ...Adieu best of wives and best of Women.

For him, walking away would have made him into someone other than the man he was; consequently, he made the decision to die as the man he wanted to be rather than live as someone else. Talk about dying with your boots on.

-Quinn

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He was also the co-writer of the Federalist Papers which helped bring the states together into a country under the constitution (which is slowly being torn apart) in the 1780's. We might live in a totally different country if he were president.

"If it be asked, What is the most sacred duty and the greatest source of our security in a Republic? The answer would be, An inviolable respect for the Constitution and Laws — the first growing out of the last.... A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government." Alexander Hamilton

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Originally Posted by TomSelis

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Originally Posted by Quinn

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Originally Posted by flabbybody

my vote for favorite founding father is Hamilton. He lived in Manhattan and distrusted slave-owning Southerners. He, more than anyone else, knew the new country needed a strong currency in order to survive. He created the Federal Reserve Bank that regulates money supply and interest rates to this very day. Hamilton was the person that George Washington counted on the most.

his downfall was picking a fight with a guy that had a faster trigger finger.

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He was my favorite founding father for many of the same reasons. Out of their number, he seemed to have the best sense of exactly who he was as a person. Regarding the duel, he knew he was almost certainly going to die, but he went anyway. In preperation, he wrote the following to his wife:

If it had been possible for me to have avoided the interview, my love for you and my precious children would have been alone a decisive motive. But it was not possible, without sacrifices which would have rendered me unworthy of your esteem. ...Adieu best of wives and best of Women.

For him, walking away would have made him into someone other than the man he was; consequently, he made the decision to die as the man he wanted to be rather than live as someone else. Talk about dying with your boots on.

-Quinn

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He was also the co-writer of the Federalist Papers which helped bring the states together into a country under the constitution (which is slowly being torn apart) in the 1780's. We might live in a totally different country if he were president.

"If it be asked, What is the most sacred duty and the greatest source of our security in a Republic? The answer would be, An inviolable respect for the Constitution and Laws — the first growing out of the last.... A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government." Alexander Hamilton

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All of the founding fathers are turning over in their graves right now.

Tom,

I've actually read through some of the Federalist Papers. Hamilton's clarity of thought always impressed me. Madison and Jay were brilliant, as well, but, to my mind, Hamilton was always more impressive.

-Quinn

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Originally Posted by TomSelis

All of the founding fathers are turning over in their graves right now.

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co-sign.