He said some interesting things until he got down to the birther thing I mean really come on my dude.
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He said some interesting things until he got down to the birther thing I mean really come on my dude.
I'm curious....what's your take on the birth certificate thing ? And what did Trump say that offends you so much? He said he felt Obama was born here, but says every one of us Americans has to present a birth certificate for a variety of things. Basicaly he said show the damn thing and let's move on....I don't find that outrageous ........not in the least. I urge you...go to the post office for a passport and take with you a birth announcment...see how far you get. Even Tingles Matthews said..."just show the damn thing"Quote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
Funny....the press dug into Bush's past for all sorts of shit....A DUI in Mass, some indiscretions while he was in his 20's,
every day he spent in the Air National Guard, and good for them....that's thier job....but strangely they lost all intellectual curiosity when Obama entered the scene...That's all I'm sayin'. Suddenly everything changed. It used to be we all said, regardless of party...that a politician is generally lying when his lips start moving, but you're perfectly willing to put that on hold for Obama, and just take what he tells you as gospel.... Curious.
To what official body does is the president to show his birth certificate? What will make you happy. The republican governor of HA has inspected the certificate. The hospital has had it photocopied and you can find it on the web. It's the same kind of certificate that any Hawaiian shows to obtain a visa or a passport. I must admit, there's not much here to challenge the intellect or spur one's intellectual curiosity. Of course if you want to stir the dumbasses of the republican base, that's another thing.
It will never happen. That guy has way to many skeletons in his closet. I would however love to see him make it on the POTUS' salary and open all his financial records. I'm sure his records alone would tank his chances. They poured through both of the obamas histories and I seriously doubt they are anywhere near as shady as TrumpQuote:
Originally Posted by Silcc69
As you know I am not a citizen of the USA -was there some talk of General Petraeus going into politics? The view here is that Palin is too much of a liability so I think we can count her out although she might have a run at the nomination. My guess is that there is a Governor out there somewhere who might emerge during the nomination process rather like Clinton did in the 90s. but you people probably know more about it than I do.
The "Birther" thing is just another republican tool of hate to keep the base fired up. And the stupid weak minded conservatives are buying it. I believe even the republicans know in their hearts that Obama was born in the USA. But it is a way to spread more hate for the right wing base, so they keep pushing the lie anyway. It's called propaganda. Hell it worked for Hitler.
The man has shown the same photocopy of his birth certificate that every president has shown to prove they were a citizen and eligible to run for the office. The press (Except FoxGOP of course) have even produced announcements of Obama's birth from the ORIGINAL newspaper at the time he was born. I suppose his mom had a master plan way back then that Barack would someday run for president, so they faked the announcement to be prepared all these years later. How stupid can right wingers be?
Hey right wingers. He's a citizen already. He HAS proved it. Accept it, get over yourselves, and move on to important issues.
Trump doesn't stand a chance in hell of being president. He can bull shit like a republican, but his record is way too dirty. He is rich, but he is in debt up to his groundhog hairdo. He almost lost is ass a few years ago but got backing from the guys with crooked noses, (if ya knows wut I means). Trump will be president when FoxGOP channel finally tells one item of truth. Meaning when the earth explodes, and Beck's last words are, "UH OH! WE'RE FUCKED".
Certificate of Live Birth
A certificate of live birth may have been given to your parents before leaving the hospital after you were born. However, this has not been certified by your state's Department of Human Services.
Evidence of Citizenship
To get a U.S. passport, you must have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship. A certified birth certificate should satisfy this requirement, but a certificate of live birth will not.
He couldn't get a passport with the document he provided. He HASN"T proved shit, only that he is hiding something.
Bullshit. It's exactly the document every Hawaiian uses to obtain a passport.Quote:
He couldn't get a passport with the document he provided.
This is silly -- and racist. And wasn't John McCain born in Panama? Yes! A Naval Air Station. But still. And: Sarah Palin. Anyone question where she was born? Maybe it was Canada and her parents slipped across the border. And, too, I mean, was Ronnie Reagan born in America? Was his country of birth ever questioned? What about Jimmy Carter? Gerry Ford? What about tricky dicky Nixon? What about Kennedy? Maybe, just maybe he was born in Ireland. I mean, Georgie Washington was born in a British colony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faldur
Your as wrong as you could be, you could NEVER obtain a US Passport in any of the 53 States Obama has campaigned in. NEVER, EVER its un-questionable a certificate of live birth blessed by the fricking Pope will get you a free cup of coffee as you leave the post office, and thats it!Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Taken from the US Passport Office..http://travel.state.gov/passport/get...tml#step3first
3.Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship
When applying for a U.S. passport in person, evidence of U.S. citizenship must be submitted with Form DS-11. All documentation submitted as citizenship evidence will be returned to you. These documents will be delivered with your newly issued U.S. passport or in a separate mailing.
Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):
Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport
Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*
Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
Naturalization Certificate
Certificate of Citizenship
*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s). For more information, please see New Requirement for all U.S. Birth Certificates.
NOTE: If you do not have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship or your U.S. birth certificate does not meet the requirements, please see Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship.
McCain had to submit his birth certificate, there was questions about where he was born. He needed to be born on the base to qualify to be a US Citizen. Why is that so damned difficult for someone to understand. There are requirements in life, deal with it.
Racist? What are you an idiot?