Grooby Legal Action against Piracy ...

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Originally Posted by Trans-Promo

Through my small understanding of IP Law, if a company knowingly allows its members to practice downloading without paying licensing fees the company is liable. When the lawsuit opens, the lawyers to the plaintiff will subpoena company records. Those records will most likely include user information, IP information.

A great example, if you recall, was the A&M Records, Inc. v. Napster, Inc. case. More applicable would be the Pink Visual vs Brazzers case - http://www.xbiznewswire.com/view.php?id=119753

It is imperative that companies shut down anyone - INDIVIDUALS OR NOT - and enforce the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which protects artist against internet infringement.

In my IP class many have spoken of being disconnected from their service provider because of illegal downloads, more internet service providers need to take this type of action.

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There are safe harbor provisions of the DMCA that apply to ISPs and other 3rd party providers. However, it does require them to have a mechanism for receiving complaints of infringement and removing that content.

Did you sign the paper when you received internet service? Relinquishing your rights to privacy?

If you are thief you are a thief - hiding behind the first amendment won't make you any less.

I don't do anything illegal online, nor have I ever downloaded stolen content - this being movies or music. I go to the store and to the movies just like any decent human being should

I'm glad I use irc.

In addition - we are not talking about freedom of press here. We are talking about people's way of making a living... Am I wrong here... I mean honestly

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Originally Posted by smashysmashy

i'm glad i use irc.

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translation = i steal porn

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Originally Posted by Trans-Promo

Did you sign the paper when you received internet service? Relinquishing your rights to privacy?

If you are thief you are a thief - hiding behind the first amendment won't make you any less.

I don't do anything illegal online, nor have I ever downloaded stolen content - this being movies or music. I go to the store and to the movies just like any decent human being should

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Ahh, the old, 'if you're not doing anything wrong, then why can't I invade your privacy' argument. Wow Danielle, you really know how to recycle a classic! :Bowdown:

If you didn't sign the agreement, would you have service? Talk about a captive contract! ALL of the ISPs make you relinquish privacy rights as a condition of service. I don't think that's fair, do you?

~BB~

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Originally Posted by Trans-Promo

translation = i steal porn

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I don't really believe in copyright in it's existing form, sorry. I think it has no basis in reason except to secure finances at the expense of guaranteed popular rights.

The original post states that there are gangs of crims roaming about Romania and Bulgaria, who are actively stealing porn from the people who make it, and these gangs are making a profit from doing so. To be consistent, surely Grooby should harness this technical expertise we're told about and find out who owns these websites, and take the appropriate measures to have them shut down. That would, as I said, be more consistent with the original complaint, more cost effective, and it might even work.

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Originally Posted by Trans-Promo

In addition - we are not talking about freedom of press here. We are talking about people's way of making a living... Am I wrong here... I mean honestly

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The internet is a communication tool. Pretty much anything that goes on online is a First Amendment issue. The fact that one's privacy must be breached in order to identify them as a pirate is the issue. Those potential breaches of privacy that may not have cause chill free speech by internet users.

Although I would qualify that by saying that if there is a warrant or court order with which an ISP is expected to comply, then they should, but it's not their job to be e-vigilantes.

~BB~

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Originally Posted by SmashysmashY

I don't really believe in copyright in it's existing form, sorry. I think it has no basis in reason except to secure finances at the expense of guaranteed popular rights.

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I have some issues with current copyright law also, namely the fact that it continues on after the author's death (can thank Europe for that lol). However, I am very much in favor of protecting someone's rights to their creation. How would you feel if you spent 5 years of your life writing a book and then I come along and seed an e-version of it on the internet for free? I'm willing to bet that you'd feel robbed.