Tranny beatdown at the "Straight Club" last night

Yeah if you read mine two posts up I was in same situation. I work at a club and that is TOTALLY the responsibility of the bounces. Even bartenders, cocktails, waitresses should not be involved in stopping fights. So there would have been no good for you to jump in and confuse things even more and possibly get beat down because security wasn't doing their job. The reason I fought in this situation is becaue I pretty much said something and security wasn't doing their job,
If the bouncers saw a "clocky" girl walking in they should have had someone keep an eye on that person the entire time because obviously some shit is gonna break out if you're in that kind of club.

agreed..................
you slip one of the bouncers an extra $20 and say "keep an eye on this situation"

Living here in ATL(the Gay Mecca)I dont think many girls have that problem..hell u see Trannys at Walmart..lol
Basically we go anywhere we want.

There was an icident I had in DC last year, a guy recognized me in a str8 club...he whispered in my ear..."wassup Sexy Jade"... I gaged.

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Originally Posted by SexxxyJade

There was an icident I had in DC last year, a guy recognized me in a str8 club...he whispered in my ear..."wassup Sexy Jade"... I gaged.

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That goes back to the discretion thread. If I saw you somewhere public and recognized you I'd just admire from afar unless you came over and said "Hi" to me (You don't know me, yet. :) ).

If I saw someone try to mess with you I'd pull up a chair and watch you kick their ass. :)

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Originally Posted by SexxxyJade

Living here in ATL(the Gay Mecca)I dont think many girls have that problem..hell u see Trannys at Walmart..lol
Basically we go anywhere we want.

There was an icident I had in DC last year, a guy recognized me in a str8 club...he whispered in my ear..."wassup Sexy Jade"... I gaged.

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What did you gag for? the guy probably wanted a lil action.

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Originally Posted by aTsLiKeN0oThEr

Mama if it was 6 guys all u can do is mind ya business. I'd have felt bad too but there are too many places to go on saturday nights where YOU WILL be accepted to chance and go to places where you won't. I hate to say it but she brought it on herself. Not to mention she shouldn't have been alone.

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Intresting story?

I scanned the responses (and maybe I missed this) but I don't know why calling the authorities wasn't mentioned as a response. A beatdown is a very fluid situation. One moment someone could be get smacked around ... the next a life is gone. Now, I am not saying that the police are the end all and be all when people are in trouble... but when you see that you cannot step into a situation - call on the ones who can and will.

Perhaps you didn't have a cell phone. Perhaps your girls didn't have one either. I know that corner public phones are becoming a relic of the past. But I would plead with you, in the future, when faced with that type of situation - the police are a very acceptable option.

It is too bad you had to see the grimey side of life. But its out there, all we can do is try to be prepared.

ok i just have to play devil's advocate here.

what if one of us guys told this same story? wouldn't we have been expected to do somethng?

you know we would get hung out to dry. i can hear/read it now.

"you say you love tg's and you stood there! your'e disgusting!"

"all you guys are pigs! you don't care about us!"

so on and so forth.

i guess beyond the fact that it was a transgender person. what is our personal/moral responsibility as people?

i imagine quite a few people stood and watched. its really quite disgusting.

hey don't get me wrong those are very very scary sitiuations no matter who is involved and i don't blame you for not stepping i probably wouldn't have either.

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Originally Posted by AngelaDeren

Living in fear sucks. Acts like this are inconceivable to me. Why? :(

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Why do you find it inconceivable or why do they happen? If the former probably because you are a lovely sweet person who just can't tune into that wavelength. Here in Europe, go to a grudge football match to see what this is about. I don't know what in the States.

Why do these things happen? That's much tougher and you will need to do a lot of reading. IMHO I think in a society where men are forced to question their masculine role they become insecure, and an insecure animal is dangerous.

Men conflate authority with masculinity. I also believe that the relentless association of competitive success with male fulfilment is dangerous. Not everyone can be top male, and those who are not are likely to be resentful and angry.

And though we do not live in an equal society, most men today will at some time in their lives have a boss who is a woman, or be ticketed by a cop who is a woman, or for some reason be hacked off with women, and probably, if he's not a high-performer, quite regularly. This brings about misogyny, and a further build up of resentment. I think that subconsciously a lot of men do actually hate women, or are at least frustrated by them. And remember, the rules say you can't hit girls.

Now throw into this a person who rejects maleness so far as too transform into a woman, the very object of frustration. This person is just walking away from all that competitive angst and peer pressure to succeed that is so much a part of modern urban male life. Sure they're exchanging those for other problems, but the bozos don't see that. Add alcohol and peer pressure and when the penny drops that this person is not protected by the "can't hit girls rule" you get the potential for serious violence, sometimes lethal violence. It will be particularly bad because of the internalised resentment aimed at g-women that the hapless t-girl is catching it for. This is ugly stuff.

I am an artist and a writer. There is no such thing as a 100% straight artist. You can't be in fully touch with your creative side and be a straight jock. It's just not possible. And the training of an artist, which in my case involved spending at least 2 days a week for 3 years in close proximity with naked men and women whom I was not related to in any way, made me examine myself very closely, as a man. I had to examine, understand, interpret and realise the beauty not just of the female body but the male one too. We all did. I'm not into men sexually, but I can certainly appreciate what a gay man or a woman finds beautiful and attractive about a man's body. So I'm not really straight.

I met my first TG people at art school. They were not students, they just felt safe with us because a) there was just no chance of any of us turning violent on them and b) even though there were more women than men at my college, there were enough No1 size guys like me around that the TG's knew that if they were out in a group with us they'd be safe. I should add that my college was also in a pretty gay-friendly city. I just mention these things so you know where I'm coming from.

How to change things? I don't know. Other than what I can do in my own work I can teach my sons to be more relaxed about their sexuality, to be less competitive and to try to accept other people for whatever they are. To understand that not all achievement is competitive. To see fulfilment as doing their best and being proud of it, not winning at all costs. But as I have made clear in the previous 2 pars I'm not one of the relentlessly competitive, fucked-up-straight bozoid jock types, and I know I'm in a minority. So a lot of men are going to remain a threat to TG/TS.

I'm pretty sure every other man that contributes here, for whatever reason, is sufficiently "off the straight and narrow" to understand what I mean. But we are a minority.

All you can do is keep safe, and BE CAREFUL. Take self defence courses-- carrying weapons is not enough. Even a gun-- what happens if your assailants are also armed? Or you miss and hit a bystander? The first thing you will be taught in self-defence classes is not how to fight off an attacker, though that will come later, but how to identify a potentially dangerous situation and avoid it before the point comes when violence is inevitable. That's the most important bit. Avoiding the confrontation. It's not a cop-out. . was quite right earlier. And by the way, never, ever, drink unless you are in a known totally safe situation. Not only will alcohol make your own behaviour more conspicuous, but you will miss the early signs of danger. Don't do it.

I think people who beat up weaker people for whatever reason are despicable bullies, and I would like to see them locked up for as long as it takes for them to learn a new way of looking at life. But that won't help Gwen Araujo or many others, or the poor girl who got her head kicked in last night. Or the one it's going to happen to tonight. So be careful, please.

What do you do when there's some really cute guy at the club who you want to go home with?