Somali Pirates Are So Dumb. LOL & Double LOL

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Originally Posted by trish

Too bad there weren't sharks in the water too.

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I was thinking the same thing. That would have been awesome. These pirates cheapen their lives through their own actions.

Seriously, paying them just rewards criminal behavior and encourages them and others to continue and terrorize more ships. What right do they have to one cent? If someone broke into your house, would you grab the 12 gauge or hand over your TV? We, as Americans, might be bloodthirsty but that should be more of a warning to others instead of something some might be ashamed of.

I'd happily give them the TV, if that what they came for. Better for me to lose a TV than for someone to lose a life. Killing a thief for threatening to take a television IS something to be ashamed of.

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Originally Posted by trish

I'd happily give them the TV, if that what they came for. Better for me to lose a TV than for someone to lose a life. Killing a thief for threatening to take a television IS something to be ashamed of.

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I guess you're more civilized than I am. My 10 year old Sony Trinitron that cost me $250 brand new is worth more to me than the life of some shaky crackhead climbing through my window. Sorry I don't feel ashamed. I respect your passive nature. If everyone were like you no one would get hurt. Unfortunately, the world is not like that.

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Originally Posted by trish

The Somali pirates have been hijacking ships and collecting ransoms for a decade without a single loss of life. Then the U.S. enters the scene and three days later three people are dead. Typical.

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It's better to respond forcefully…

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Better for whom?

Here’s an amusing solution. Somalia should probably just charge everyone a toll for the use of those waters and hire the pirates to collect. Then they wouldn’t be pirates anymore, just toll collectors. It would save a lot a time, because hijacking wouldn’t be necessary, provided everyone obeys the law and pays the toll.

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Yea that might be a cute idea except that as far as I know this hijacking took place in international waters. If people starting sailing a couple hundred nautical miles off the tip of Long Island and demanding a million dollars to release hijacked vessels would your response be that they should just be payed?

If your going to play GI Joe (like these pirates are doing) then you should be prepared for the possible consequences. They're dead now and no one outside of their family is going to miss them.

PS- This has been a problem for centuries (not decades). Granted the Barbary incidents took place along the northwest coast but still the same premise. This bullshit forced us to send a naval fleet and Marines:
http://looklex.com/e.o/barbary_pirates.htm

There has only been piracy there when there was a weak, or no government..

For exmaple in 2006 a native force overwhelemed the warlords, as well as the puppet UN back regime, and created a government ruled by judges. They were not perfect, but they did put an end to warlordism, and piracy for the year and 1/2 that they were in control.

Then the US and Ethiopia invaded, just to be sure that they would not become a terrorist haven. Which lead ironically to somalia becoming a terroist haven. If we had just let the somalians' sort this out then this would no be happening.

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They're dead now and no one outside of their family is going to miss them.

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That's right. No one of consequence. It's the profits that are important.

Hey Dino, I presume you haven't whacked any yet for stealing your TV. And I haven't not whacked anyone yet for trying to steal my Celestron. So fortunately neither of us yet have anything to be ashamed of or proud of.

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Originally Posted by trish

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They're dead now and no one outside of their family is going to miss them.

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That's right. No one of consequence. It's the profits that are important.

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Look I'm all for not invading countries in some effort to enforce distorted economic policies. That being said, our flagged vessels and citizens have the right to safe passage through international waters. If someone wants to try to impinge upon that right then I have no quarrels with killing them.

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Originally Posted by trish

Hey Dino, I presume you haven't whacked any yet for stealing your TV. And I haven't not whacked anyone yet for trying to steal my Celestron. So fortunately neither of us yet have anything to be ashamed of or proud of.

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That's true but we have different opinions on the value of the lives of criminals. The TV thing was just an example. As far as the pirates, their deaths put a smile on my face on Easter Sunday. The only person who had any worth was the one who was victimized, the captain. The others were garbage.

Hey, I'm convinced already.

We saved some money, kicked some ass and killed three people. Fuck yeah. Three cheers for America.