So real men don't drink Bud Light?

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

As you can probably guess that as a many year member of the HA forum, I'm generally sympathetic towards transgender issues.

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Really? I can't recall a single post from you that's been supportive of trans rights. You always have the same negative line about going too far and causing a backlash. Your general view seems to be that trans should just keep their heads down and be grateful they are not being thrown into prison.

Have you even seen any advertising featuring Dylan Mulvaney, or are you just engaging in reflexive hyperventilating after seeing some story in the media? From what I've read her role with Bud Light seems to be relatively minor. If transexuals are X per cent of the population then what exactly is your objection to them participating in something like X per cent of advertising?

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Originally Posted by broncofan

I will also note you misgender Dylan twice and I don't really understand the backlash comments. If transgender people appear in ads there will be serious backlash? Who would be to blame for that? I think it's audacity to blame a minority group for not heeding the threats of bigoted people who insist they stay out of the public sphere.

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I'm sure 60 years ago there were people saying the same about black people appearing in ads. The equivalent versions of mildcigar would have been tut-tutting about the civil rights movement going too far and risking a backlash. Has any group ever got their rights without making a fuss and putting themselves in the public eye? If they kept quiet and waited for people like mildcigar to grant them rights they would be waiting forever.

Anyone who has a visceral objection to even knowing that a trans person is being used in marketing is obviously a transphobe. The idea that this is pursuing some woke agenda is clearly predicated on the assumption that trans people should not be part of public life.

I think the right-wing obsession with the supposed scourge of wokism is starting to look like the 2020s version of the red scare of the 1950s.

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Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo

How is Dylan Mulvaney being pushed down anyone's throat? I've only seen the controversy over this campaign. I haven't seen one of the ads. It's a fucking commercial, anyway. How does that have a major impact on anyone's life? No one is compelled to buy Bud Light.

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The irony (no doubt lost on mildcigar) is that none of the people complaining about Bud allegedly forcing a woke agenda on them would even be aware of this if the right-wing outrage machine had not picked it up. It's a bit like someone complaining about pornography after having gone looking for it.

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Originally Posted by broncofan

I will also note you misgender Dylan twice

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He seems to be a slow learner

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

However, we are getting away from common sense when we started sending trannies to women's' prisons.

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Originally Posted by GroobySteven

Keep using the word 'trannies' if you want removing from this forum - and we should all be concerned with 'trans rights'.

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Anyone can now be who they want and rightly so.Its all the prancing about I don't get, to me it looks juvenile.

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Originally Posted by filghy2

He seems to be a slow learner

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I see the Red Guards are out in full force trying to enforce uniform thought and language.

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Originally Posted by mildcigar_2001

I see the Red Guards are out in full force trying to enforce uniform thought and language.

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Yes, because acknowledging the right of trans people to exist is clearly communism.

dylan is making success

So, mildcigar, what is the "radical trans agenda"? What's wrong with being "woke" -- better than being asleep, no?

I support the auto industry in general, but I don't like seeing commercials from Toyota. Sure, they have a right to exist, but their commercials go too far. They show people enjoying driving in, buying, and even selling Toyotas. Sure, I've ridden in and even driven Toyotas before, but that company should be careful. Pearl Harbor wasn't really that long ago. Toyotas shouldn't be forced on society.