Ave yew bin drinking, Sammi?Quote:
Originally Posted by SammiValentine
Ibe? Rossiter? Who dey?
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Ave yew bin drinking, Sammi?Quote:
Originally Posted by SammiValentine
Ibe? Rossiter? Who dey?
google is your friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
I think I will refrain from using that kind of language....it all depends on whether the controlling interests in the club are prepared to sacrifice a season or two outside the Champions League to re-build for long-term success, or have an alternative plan to ditch Moyes if the share price, revenues and reputation issues take a hammering. Ferguson had a record of success with Aberdeen before he arrived at United, a not inconsiderable one given that he broke the stranglehold of Celtic and Rangers and went one better than the letter with a European cup win. Moyes, it is true, has not achieved anything like Ferguson and does not come across as a man with the same kind of iron discipline that Ferguson had, and which was also evident in Bill Shankly. I think the jury is out; if van Persie is desperate to leave it suggests Moyes doesn't command enough respect, so on balance it doesn't look good for Moyes but as I say, in the end it is a case of 'follow the money'. This is a global business, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SammiValentine
Sammi that avatar is awesome...where is that pool?
Did anyone see this? Bayern may get fined for it.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...s_2849631b.jpg
you misunderstand me dear sir. i said moyes was a poor manager who held everton back, and would destroy man utd (although never anticpiated quite so quickly). Agreed???? Paragraphs of pants about the glazier giving time do not having anything to do with Sir Gollum of county road and his manageial skills, simply not good enough for everton, thus never good enough for mancs.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
p.s its a small little place, south west ish coast of portgual, up through the al garve. a hunting lodge in 400 hectres of land or smth, the dude owned part of the river even. amazing place. lots of pic sets to put up from there and alread several vids on my site from that amazing location. it was breathtaking i must say and property worth a mere................ lotsalotsamillions. lol x
The reasoning must be that Moyes has a chance to prove that he is capable of winning something. So far I admit it doesn't look like it. Longer term problem is who else is there the management think are 'worthy' of Manchester United? A German, perhaps?
Today's Guardian has a love-letter to Steven Gerrard, interesting but a bit over the top.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...rard-liverpool
I have never been to Portugal -I am told Lisbon is nice but that the countryside is like Berkshire on the Med.
Nothing like Berkshire and not on the Med :shrug
I was misinformed!!! (aka oops!)
Moyes had a few chances at fa cup and stuff at everton, the chaps a born loser. sorry... its the truth. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
p.s errm never been to lisbon. i flew to faro and drove 3 hrs up the coast. :)
#roadtrip
p.s i love moyes really and will stop gobbing off as we play united on sunday :((( lol x
Methinks thou dost protest too much, sweetie. :dancing:Quote:
Originally Posted by SammiValentine
It's a very big game. If Liverpool win, it more or less confirms their top four finish and at the same time condemns United to the joys of the Europa League.
always big game v them, almost derby like as in you can ignore league form.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
I suppose it raises the question then -why? Because Moyes is a Scot? Curious thing is I thought Brendan Rodgers was a loser before he started at Liverpool but I must confess I was wrong, and he seems to be doing something there his predecessors haven't managed for some time,Quote:
Originally Posted by SammiValentine
moyes has been around for donkeys years, he has no reason to have won fk all. rodgers is fresh faced and very much his junuior with regards to age and experience.... you gotta be in it to win it and moyes has been in it for a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
nationaility does not make you a loser. personally i think he is a bit to oldschool, dated. shrug. all I know is he hates liverpool with a passion so its gonna be a battle on sunday. :)
A "loser" like Ferguson, Busby, Shankly, Stein, Dalglish in his first spell at Liverpool?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
More stereotyping drivel, Stavros.
And Rodgers a loser? Did you see the good footballing philosophy which he instilled and developed at Swansea?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
He now has the resources and skills to do the same with a major club. Liverpool are three, maybe four signings away from becoming a top four fixture and a team to fear in Europe.
No need to get excited RL;)Any one who has watched football can see Scotland has produced some very fine managers over the years,more so than any other country in the UK.
Rogers can do the Job,he just needs the money to be released to make those three or four signings you mention.And without doubt it needs to be spent in the back four area.
Stavvy cast the bait and you took it.
Sundays a big game,beat the mancs and win the game in hand and Liverpool are one point from Chelsea with them to play at Anfield.
Lose to the Mancs(can't bare to think about it) and the other teams win,it will look out of reach.
But one thing for sure,as a Red,it's nice to even be thinking this way again.
Ooops!So Chelsea lose.
Now Sunday is really BIG.
City look to be in a strong position.
I seem to recall when he first arrived at Liverpool they weren't winning games. Whatever -I have changed my view of him, please note. And anyway he is from Northern Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
You know how to press my buttons by having a go at the Scots, Stavros. Naughty. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
But here's something even I never thought I'd be saying. The best goalkeeper in the premier league right now is a Scot. Step forward David Marshall of Cardiff City. He pulls off amazing saves in every game.
And fingers crossed for tomorrow. Is it too much to hope for wins for both Liverpool AND Tottenham?
United 0 Liverpool 3
I think Moyes is going to get sacked if MU loses in the CL this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Piper
Go Reds! I watched the match twice. Awesome!
And they'll lose Vidic for three matches....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Piper
I don't recall United playing badly when the title went to Arsenal, Chelsea or Manchester City, but this performance was just abysmal. Liverpool were hungry, aggressive, imaginative; smart passes, shots on goal -what more could one ask for? They had one penalty disallowed, another given that was a dive; United could have had one penalty, but this is seriously poor. If the team at least showed some will, some spirit or fight one might think positively, but this is just emptiness in all areas, with only a marvellous save from De Gea and one shot from Rooney to recall. A brave man who thinks Moyes will survive this. Vidic is going, Carrick is exhausted, Fellaini is a waste of space. It's grim up north...sort of.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Depends where you are on the M62 la'. :whistle:
One hardly dares hope, but with both Man C and Chelsea still to visit what is fast becoming once again the invincible fortress that was the old Anfield, it might just happen.
Please. :praying:
DIVE!!! ROFL. We had 5 genuine penalty claims....................... 3 given and the mancs should of had 9 man at most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Bend over moysie lid!!!!!!!!!! x
3-0 flattered Man Utd & your right there were 5 penalty shouts BUT the one given when Sturridge went down - that blade of grass should have walked lol
Moyes is looking older by the game & seems to have turned Van Persie from a predator striker into a nobody that has forgotten he is meant to get in the opposition's box & score goals. Just hope they don't sneak into the Euro spot as Spurs seem to be giving it their best shot to throw it away.
Also love the fact they keep cutting to Sir Alex at all these Utd defeats & the look of utter disgust at the performance is priceless......
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Originally Posted by beaufont
hahah i twitch a lot with fergie cams
Shrewd move by Fergie,so he looks even better;)
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Originally Posted by beaufont
Everton are looking good for that position.
Just get's better and better for Moyes,doesn't it.:loser:
So nobody fancies Arsenal's chances? Some of their best young players seem to get injured easily, but Wenger's next is the 1,000 game of his career in London. Rosicky's strike was wickedly brilliant. And I say that having grown up as a Spurs supporter.
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Originally Posted by Stavros
AHHH! Now we know the problem:dancing:
Yes Arsenal are contenders,it's just that Wenger is such a misery.
So it's anyone of the four really.
City have the games in hand and i can well see them winning those.
It's going to be an exciting finish to the season which is great for the neutral and brown trousers if you support any one of the top four.
I think City have a strong squad but are over-rated. Although I think Arsenal would be in a stronger position if they had a fit Walcott, Wilshere and Ramsay, I think its just do-able. Mourinho winning it would confirm that he must be one of the best managers Europe has ever had. Also tight at the bottom, in a manner of speaking. I would like to see the back of Fulham and Crystal Palace, I don't even know why Palace still exists as a football club, but Cardiff and Norwich look like contenders. Not so long ago Solskjaer was touted as Ferguson's successor, I think he might still be in the frame if things look shaky in Wales and Moyes gets his books.
Pretty sure Utd will give Moyes time but their resolve will be seriously tested if they go out of the Champions League. If they do replace him it will be for a big name & I don't mean Schwarzenneger :banana:
I don't think they would make a move without a replacement ready to step in.
Meanwhile, the Telegraph is revealing new allegations about the FIFA award of the World Cup to Qatar -
Qatar World Cup 2022 investigation: former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner and family paid millions
A senior Fifa official and his family were paid almost $2 million (£1.2m) from a Qatari firm linked to the country’s successful bid for the 2022 World Cup, The Telegraph can disclose.
Jack Warner, the former vice-president of Fifa, appears to have been personally paid $1.2 million (£720,000) from a company controlled by a former Qatari football official shortly after the decision to award the country the tournament.
Payments totalling almost $750,000 (£450,000) were made to Mr Warner’s sons, documents show. A further $400,000 (£240,000) was paid to one of his employees.
It is understood that the FBI is now investigating Trinidad-based Mr Warner and his alleged links to the Qatari bid, and that the former Fifa official’s eldest son, who lives in Miami, has been helping the inquiry as a co-operating witness.
full story here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-millions.html
Would that be the Arsenal that lost 6-3 at the Etihad and 5-1 at Anfield? :whistle: But I have to agree about Rosicky's goal on Sunday, stunning technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
What unites the current top four is that all their back fours can have horrific off days. The difference is that Man C and Liverpool are the only two who currently look irresistible going forward.
And with Chelsea and City still to visit Anfield, plus their current momentum, Liverpool are looking at least as strong as the others.
I still take City to win the title, but after that it's anyone's guess.
It occurred to me today that if the match with Olympiakos is crucial to Moyes' survival (and he claims it isn't because he has the backing of the Board) and if the players don't like him, could they under-perform and get beaten to ensure that Moyes goes?? Sick, I know, but given Moyes has not used Giggs who might at least inspire some of the other players, you can't rule anything out.
I can't help thinking that Moyes' failings are shown just as much by what Martinez has done at Everton with pretty much the same group of players that he inherited at the start of the season, where they are playing with a flair, style and freedom that they didn't show previously. Everton are definitely better to watch this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Maybe the United board should have gone for Martinez, who seems to combine the pragmatic and romantic with the panache which denotes all great managers. Watch this space?
I don't understand what the process was; I am assuming Ferguson was a key figure in the decision but I understand some Board members and respected elders were too -didn't I read somewhere that Bobby Charlton didn't want Mourinho at United? There are good managers in Europe who would have wanted Ferguson's job, yet it seems Jurgen Klopp maybe didn't want it; I don't know. You look at Real Madrid and ask how many managers have they had in recent years? Is Carlo Ancelotti doing something there now Mourinho didn't? It hasn't stopped Ronaldo who's goal scoring form is beyond the ability of most other players...
I've been a fan of Martinez since his days managing Swansea, and I think its worth pointing out that he's revolutionized the culture of every club he's managed. So much that Swansea actually built his passing style and attacking play into the club's philosophy so that future managers have to adhere to it:Quote:
Originally Posted by robertlouis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l61hr-rdsB0
BBC's 'Final Days' docu on Swansea in 2003
He's a great young manager and I can't wait to see how he develops. Its worth fantasizing about what he could to with a proper transfer budget, and I really wish United would have hired him, I think the players they currently have (Kagawa, Young, RVP, Rooney, Mata, Januzaj) reflect his attacking style of football much more than Moyes' effort to adhere to a boring 442, which he will try to impose during the summer transfer window by buying players that fit it. I really think Martinez is an asset to the Premiership because he's one of the those managers who indicates the future of the game, which in some respects is a more continental style of football.
As for today's game- its obvious Moyes lost the dressing room weeks ago and I recently read that even Giggs is now among his detractors. Its obvious the players need to step up and take charge, since they bear a lot of responsibility for their current predicament, but my big worry is that Moyes has failed to properly motivate them, which doesn't bode well for the future. Sure, he currently has to contend with a group of players such as RVP and Hernandez who wanted to work with SAF and became a bit jaded, but at the end of the day, I worry about putting 100 million quid in that man's hands this summer given how badly he's failed in the dressing room. If United take a bath and fail next season after splashing out big, the club will have manufactured a financial crisis that will be hard to come back from. To circle back around to Martinez- its really telling how much he's done with Everton since Moyes left. United have traded an success for mediocrity.
moyes held everton back just as much as martinez has done things for them though, which is the ironically amusing thing.............. he desevres a big xmas bonus already x love him,top guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by up_for_it
oohhhh manchesterrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........:D