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What gender you identify as doesn't necessarily determine how you have sex. If a lesbian woman fucks another girl with a strap on, should she just become a male since she doesn't like penetration? No. What you identify as and how you use your sexual organs have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
Jeez, this thread is so fucking awful. It shows such distain for gay people to think that transsexuals transition in order to become straight. Did you ever think that a lot of people actually like being a woman sleeping with a woman or a man sleeping with a man?
And you know what? There is absolutely nothing wrong with trans women who like to top, but the majority of transbians I know are bottoms. As in they don't stick their dicks in the women they're sleeping with. I guess it's hard for some to believe, but not all sex involves a penis going into something. I for one, am attracted to women and also exclusively bottom. It's the fucking twenty-first century...we have this thing called a strapon.
Really? But most transbians I spoke to mentioned that they still do use their penises to penetrate and actually quite proudly proclaim that they are women with penises. * shrugs *Quote:
Originally Posted by sophiebendable
I have one friend who is 47 or something - he elected not to transition because he said he would make a fugly trans woman at that age and no one would want him.
Upon analyzing picture after picture of transbians versus straight trans women, I have come to notice that the straight trans women tend to look sexier and more fashionable than transbians - they tend to look similar to Autumn Sandeen. To be bluntly honest, men like SEXY. No hot man is going to want a fugly trans woman in her 50s/60s when he can have a natal woman with much less hassle and stigma. It is probably one reason transbians stay lesbian. Another reason is that since they were cultivated and raised as straight men, homophobia probably was a part of their ingrained teachings from society. So that homophobia still carried over with them through their transition.
Just my opinion.
Although I like men too, you are talking about me when you say those things. If you say that transbians like women because they're homophobic, then do you consider men who like pre-op trans women to be gay? I think that's pretty fucked up. You're clearly the one who is homophobic. I mean seriously, you think women are lesbians because they're ugly? I think it's sad how common that is with straight trans women who used to be gay men and now look down on the very men who are attracted to them because they still have a penis. Homophobia is a big problem with trans women :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MsDazzler
I truly love knowing that people like myself and others on this board (and around the world) literally 'unnerve' other people by just us being ourselves (just like Mister Rogers taught us) freaking wonderful! I get to fuck with someone's head with 0% effort. In a way, the victim does my trolling for me. Awesome!
(On behalf of Eva Cassini, Tiffany Starr, Abby Rose and myself - 4 'transbians' living under one roof - to everyone that spends more time thinking about who we fuck than we do... Know in your deepest heart of hearts, in your darkest dreams, that we are sincerely and severely delighted at your discomfort with our kind.)
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Originally Posted by MsDazzler
I'm pretty sure the entire concept of lesbians completely blows the OPs mind also ~_~
"Omg, why would a woman want a woman? A woman that is "acting like a man" but not transitioning and actually wants to be a woman??? omgawd"
I am hardly homophobic. I totally love gay people!Quote:
Originally Posted by sophiebendable
Just saying that on the other forum where 50s-60s late transitioners dominate, they incessantly emphasize that they are lesbians over again and again and that they found men repulsive. They also turn their noses up at straight trans women who used to be gay men.
How do I label men who sleep with me? Well... I have to say, what kind of sexual acts they want to do with me is usually the deciding factor for me to determine whether they are bi, gay, or straight. But for the most part, I consider all men who like trans women to be straight.
I didn't mean any offense to you, Sophie.
I just don't know how you can say that lesbians are ugly and not mean offense. I'm sure I'm not the only one currently fantasizing about what goes on in Jamie French's household...Quote:
Originally Posted by MsDazzler
Sophie... I was referring to the "50s and 60s late transitioners" like Autumn Sandeen who was a straight man prior to transition. If you posted on the forum that I talked about earlier, you would understand what I mean.
Oh, also.... just for the record, the GG lesbian community rejects transbians. There is a whole controversy over this on the Internet. Just do some Googling and you will see why "transbian" is such a difficult or uanccepatable concept for some people.