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06-07-2008
MrsKellyPierce

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Originally Posted by goldensamba

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

She'd of still won the vote, she had 18 million he had 13 million even if you took those two states away.

Seriously, you cannot be this thick. If you are going ot count every vote for her do the same thing for Obama and count the caucus states. If you count those she still loses no matter what you add in. You are trying to make an argument using double standards. If you are going to "count every vote" for her do the same for him. Why is this suck a difficult concept. This is one of the things that has made me lose respect for her. I cannot stand people who try to twist facts by using parts of them selectively.

Let me point you back to some info that was dished out earlier.

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.js...81474977353230
http://www.iowaindependent.com/showD...o?diaryId=2400
http://www.examiner.com/x-243-Progre...itics-Examiner

Then dear why does CNN say she won the popular vote and show the voting numbers while both of them were giving their speeches. He just won more super delegates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-Bkbre_7A

Theres the live broadcast for you all 21 minutes.

And if you look at the bottom it gives you numbers while they are talking.

I don't care about some faux made up site.
06-07-2008
El Nino

House Keeping
06-08-2008
goldensamba

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

Then dear why does CNN say she won the popular vote and show the voting numbers while both of them were giving their speeches. He just won more super delegates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-Bkbre_7A

Theres the live broadcast for you all 21 minutes.

And if you look at the bottom it gives you numbers while they are talking.

I don't care about some faux made up site.

For the millionth time., This is if and ONLY if you DO NOT count caucus states. If you count those she did not win so it's a false argument. If you only count primary states then that is true but that's a bit of a half truth. Thats discounting all of the caucus people which makes no sense.

PS You never answered my other question, why not?
06-08-2008
chefmike

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Originally Posted by Quinn

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Originally Posted by hondarobot

Haha, why are you girls even debating with this clown? I thought Quinn had taken refuge in the "other forum".

I imagine he hasn't purchased Boardwalk yet in Monopoly and is frustrated that he can't get a little red plastic hotel.

:lol:

Watch Obama tonight, this will be a historic moment one way or the other.

LMAO... I know it sucks to be pushing forty while working a dead-end job – for peanuts no less – that even teenage high-school dropouts laugh at. Maybe you should try panhandling or something? It would be a step up. Until then, you can get banned some more from the "other forum." What's your tally now? One banned ID and two temporary bannings? It must suck to have so many people laugh at your foolishness all of the time:

Don’t feel bad, cupcake, you can always come on here and make up more tough-guy stories about how a hardened pimp is afraid of your 145 pound frame to impress “your dream girl” and amuse us:

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Originally Posted by hondarobot

Soooo, I go out drinking yesterday with my buddy Weebo around 3pm. We hung out on the patio at the Monte Carlo with a mutual friend who is currently making a small fortune on ebay. We drank and told stories and had a great time, but after six beers it was time to move on.

We made our way to the Hilton hotel, Weebo is seeing a girl at the moment who's a waitress there. She hooked us up with food, whiskey and beer and we had fun, talking too loud and irritating the people in the bar. We left eventually, and this is where memory fails me for a brief time.

I ended up back in my apartment with a hooker. Not an escort or anything fancy, just a reasonably attractive, early 20's, kinda nervous street hooker. I don't pick up hookers at all, actually, so this was somewhat odd, but what the hell? I don't remember meeting her either, but these things happen. I got us both some drinks and we sat and talked on my couch, then there was a knock on my door.

This goofy guy with glasses walked in and did just what a person would expect him to do, and I laughed at him. He was getting tough, talking shit, and I told him "Shut the fuck up! You're not talking to Joe Lunchbox here. I know this fuckin game and you've been on at least three security cameras just coming up here. I'm going to hang out with your girl, have some drinks, and you're going to walk the fuck away or I'm going to stick a fucking sword in your eye and the cops will call it self defense."
I showed him the sword that I intended to use if things got ugly.

He didn't have anything to say in response, and he left. So I hung out with the girl, although right now I have no idea what we talked about. At the moment half of my bottle of whiskey is gone, and there is an empty can of Miller Genuine Draft next to my sink (she must of had it in her pocket), so I imagine we blabbed for quite awhile. I asked her what her rate was at some point, and she said $30 for a blowjob. I gave her $40, kissed her on the forehead, and told her to stay away from that dipshit pimp, and that I thought she was a very sweet girl. And no, there was no sex (although I did play with her tits for awhile, she had nice tits).

And then she left.

Somewhat strange evening.

I don't know why I'm posting this. It's a true story, and it happened last night. Just one of those things.

The moral: Guys, always be nice to girls, even if they drink Miller Genuine Draft. Cute girls are good people. And if a pimp tries to shake you down, it's good to have a weapon nearby (although, in my case, it's not even a real sword, but work with what you have).

:)

http://school.familyeducation.com/images/gijoe_H.jpg

P.S. As always, thanks for the laughs, stupid.

LMFAO, Quinn. There may be hope for the tardbot yet, though. Cuba is now giving free sex change operations. So if fembot could find a way to emigrate to Cuba and find a job opening as a jizzmopper, he could then become the woman that he said(in this forum) he always thought he was.
06-08-2008
curious4TS07

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Originally Posted by mbf

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

And he keeps talking about "change" and doesn't tell us how.

People are so dumb.

All they listen to is the "CHANGE" part.

NOTE: this is part two of my monthly post:

Kelly, Obama is the candidate. Live with it.

Regarding "Change" , ANYTHING else than republican style policy is better.

Uh...no.

I normally just lurk the forums and read (often times with great interest) threads and keep my mouth closed. I just went through this one though, with particular interest.

The Republicans--I am not one, and never will be one--have somewhat of a plan for America, even if a lot of us here, it seems, don't agree with it. Obama's campaign has no real outlined direction, other than the infamous "change", which none of us know anything about. I find this ironic.

Obama speaks of "change", but he hasn't shown the world he can actually "change" ANYTHING. In fact--and my sincerest apologies to Obama supporters--I honestly believe Barack is a coward with a bad temper that talks like a stuttering pimp. Ever notice how often he pauses with an "uh....uh" when he speaks? This doesn't exactly radiate confidence that he's not sure of himself EVERYTIME he opens himself. He's run away from every obstacle he's faced since the start of his campaign. Reverend Wright? Aside from throwing his white grandmother under the bus for being a racist during his rather eye-roll inducing, "you're-preaching-to-the-choir" speech on racism, he "distanced" himself from the man who'd been his pastor for the last 20 years. TWENTY YEARS. And one day you just decide, "I'm going to act as if I never heard you speak like this before, I'm going to act as if I never shared the same sentiments as you, and I'm going to throw you under the bus to make myself appear as if I've been doing the right thing all along." Instead of attempting to fix what was so blatantly wrong at the heart of America (presuming you believe America was founded upon the basis of religion as American currency denotes "In God We Trust" and many documents sealing American "rights" also use religion as their foundation), he leaves the church for good. Nobody mentioned the fact that between the time Wright hit the media and the incident a week or so ago, Obama COULD have used his now-influential position to change the views of the church but instead, went on vacation.

Obama's run from every state he lost instead of sticking it out and making a speech there anyway. Somebody will argue, "well, he had another state right after to worry about", but with a number of voters in certain states like West Virginia boldly claiming if Obama became the nominee they would rather vote for McCain, I see an opportunity to "change" completely wasted. And for what? A couple of days on the beach when you're fighting an already skewed game of chess? If this is what we have to look forward to as a president, God help us.

The ONLY reason Obama is in the position he's in is because Oprah Winfrey told her viewers to vote for Obama. As ludicrous as it sounds, it's not quite that far-fetched; Oprah is a HUGELY powerful woman with a circle of influence reaching that even greater than some of most powerful men in the world. How many books--really terrible books at that--are best sellers after Oprah's recommendation? How many businesses have had their sales increase exponentially after Oprah mentions they're her "favorite (and expensive) things"? How many people's careers have been influenced by Oprah? Rachael Ray? Dr. Phil? Tyler Perry? How many people showed up and/or tuned in and cheered, yelled, screamed and applauded when Oprah stood next to Obama at the beginning of his campaign and shouted "YES WE CAN!!!!"? Like it or not, her support lead to Obama going from obscure nobody to media darling. If he fucks up, blame Oprah, people. Blame Oprah. :roll:

America's greatest strength has always been its freedom of speech. Coincidentally, America's greatest weakness has also always been its freedom of speech. Why aren't people rioting in the streets, like they would've been just a few decades ago? We live in an era where information is far more accessible. The power Youtube holds is seemingly infinite. Once it's captured on video and uploaded to that site, there's no going back. Hillary's downfall began when she made the comment regarding Martin Luther King Jr. I understand what she meant, but the context it was placed in, once again, by the media and then ripped apart by reporters, so-called "political analysts" and "political experts",

As a young black kid from a town so small it's not even on the state map, I NEVER thought I would see the day a black man would run for president and I imagined I'd be first in line to vote for him. While I would love to vote for the black guy, as I've been told by other blacks, I should, I am not inclined to vote for THAT black guy. He's by far, one of the worst candidates I've seen in recent memory. I can say that because I'm in a position to fight to change my country and I'm DOING just that, not just talking about it.

America has slowly been falling apart since the day Clinton left office. That's not a propagandist view; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look around and see the shit-hole we're in. It's going to take a little longer than four years, a shaky candidate and a seemingly empty promise of "change" to turn us around. It's gotta start with the people, but sadly enough, we'd much rather complain about it than actually do anything to change it. But then again, why bother voting when your vote means nothing? It meant nothing for Hillary and--not that I'm against gay unions--the will of the people meant nothing in San Francisco. Speaking of San Fran, anybody notice Obama didn't announce his position against gay marriage until after he had their votes? Mama didn't raise no fool. The difference between Clinton and Obama? When Clinton won, there were sick people, women and blue-collar workers cheering. When Obama won, there were chardonnay glasses clinking. Who says he's not one of the "good ol' boys" club?

/rant

Wow...after all that, now I'm hungry. lol :oops:
06-08-2008
BrendaQG

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Originally Posted by hippifried

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Originally Posted by BrendaQG

You ask when he converted to Islam. According to Islamic law since his father was a muslim then so is he by birth. He actually grew up practicing Islam during his earliest years which did include some time living in Indonesia as well as the midwestern united states. Like many muslims I know he has slipped away from faith and basically really is more of an atheist.

I doubt seriously that he is really whole heartedly into any religion now. But I suppose it is possible that once president he could have a religious experience and revert to Islam instead of Christianity. But why does that matter? Are the minds of the American people so narrow that their president must be a Christian?

Cough Choke... Huh?
You can talk Islamic law all day, but Barry Obama was born & raised Catholic. In the US, Islamic law means nothing to anyone except Muslims. Unless you actually profess the faith, it's just a lot of so what.

His father didn't hang around long enough to indoctrinate him into anything. He was enrolled in public school for a time in Jakarta, but according to the school he attended, religious studies were/are separated from the rest of the curriculum & he was segregated during those classes with the rest of the non-Muslim students. Indonesia is predominantly Muslim, but it isn't a theocracy. His mother was Catholic. His maternal grandparents who helped raise him were Catholic. He was indoctrinated in Catholic dogma. The only similarity to Islam is monotheism.

Obama's only conversion was from Catholic to "Protestant" (Baptist I think) as an adult. He's not radical. He wasn't raised as part of the "African-American community" either. A conversion from Christianity to Islam would be to refute everything that's made him what he is. If he did it in his first term, he couldn't get reelected.

Got any more republican propaganda?

First of all hippie I WAS FOR OBAMA LLLOOONNNGGG BEFORE PRACTICALLY ANYONE HERE KNEW WHO HE WAS.

Second. You asked "When did he convert to Islam?" The rules that would govern that aren't found in the US constitution or in any law of America. They are found in Islamic Law. It dose not matter what it means or does not mean to the Americans. So far as Islamic Law is concerned since his Father was a muslim so was he as son as he was born. This is important because in the immediate future muslim nations who take such things very seriously are going to be more influential because of their oil and the world wide demand for it.

Now what I have said is not the same as saying he practices Islam now, as an adult with 100% free will. All I am doing is enlightening you all about how this religion works and why it could be said with some grain of truth that Obama was at one point a muslim by all normal standards.
06-08-2008
Tomfurbs

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Originally Posted by BrendaQG

This is important because in the immediate future muslim nations who take such things very seriously are going to be more influential because of their oil and the world wide demand for it.

The oil supply is dwindling. When the 'oiligarchs' (i.e the saudi royal family, and the rich Kuwaitis, who are hated by the more fundamentalist Moslems in their nations) start to lose their sway, there will be a power struggle in these countries.

That is when things will get interesting.
06-08-2008
goldensamba

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Originally Posted by curious4TS07

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Originally Posted by mbf

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

And he keeps talking about "change" and doesn't tell us how.

People are so dumb.

All they listen to is the "CHANGE" part.

NOTE: this is part two of my monthly post:

Kelly, Obama is the candidate. Live with it.

Regarding "Change" , ANYTHING else than republican style policy is better.

Uh...no.

I normally just lurk the forums and read (often times with great interest) threads and keep my mouth closed. I just went through this one though, with particular interest.

The Republicans--I am not one, and never will be one--have somewhat of a plan for America, even if a lot of us here, it seems, don't agree with it. Obama's campaign has no real outlined direction, other than the infamous "change", which none of us know anything about. I find this ironic.

Obama speaks of "change", but he hasn't shown the world he can actually "change" ANYTHING. In fact--and my sincerest apologies to Obama supporters--I honestly believe Barack is a coward with a bad temper that talks like a stuttering pimp. Ever notice how often he pauses with an "uh....uh" when he speaks? This doesn't exactly radiate confidence that he's not sure of himself EVERYTIME he opens himself. He's run away from every obstacle he's faced since the start of his campaign. Reverend Wright? Aside from throwing his white grandmother under the bus for being a racist during his rather eye-roll inducing, "you're-preaching-to-the-choir" speech on racism, he "distanced" himself from the man who'd been his pastor for the last 20 years. TWENTY YEARS. And one day you just decide, "I'm going to act as if I never heard you speak like this before, I'm going to act as if I never shared the same sentiments as you, and I'm going to throw you under the bus to make myself appear as if I've been doing the right thing all along." Instead of attempting to fix what was so blatantly wrong at the heart of America (presuming you believe America was founded upon the basis of religion as American currency denotes "In God We Trust" and many documents sealing American "rights" also use religion as their foundation), he leaves the church for good. Nobody mentioned the fact that between the time Wright hit the media and the incident a week or so ago, Obama COULD have used his now-influential position to change the views of the church but instead, went on vacation.

Obama's run from every state he lost instead of sticking it out and making a speech there anyway. Somebody will argue, "well, he had another state right after to worry about", but with a number of voters in certain states like West Virginia boldly claiming if Obama became the nominee they would rather vote for McCain, I see an opportunity to "change" completely wasted. And for what? A couple of days on the beach when you're fighting an already skewed game of chess? If this is what we have to look forward to as a president, God help us.

The ONLY reason Obama is in the position he's in is because Oprah Winfrey told her viewers to vote for Obama. As ludicrous as it sounds, it's not quite that far-fetched; Oprah is a HUGELY powerful woman with a circle of influence reaching that even greater than some of most powerful men in the world. How many books--really terrible books at that--are best sellers after Oprah's recommendation? How many businesses have had their sales increase exponentially after Oprah mentions they're her "favorite (and expensive) things"? How many people's careers have been influenced by Oprah? Rachael Ray? Dr. Phil? Tyler Perry? How many people showed up and/or tuned in and cheered, yelled, screamed and applauded when Oprah stood next to Obama at the beginning of his campaign and shouted "YES WE CAN!!!!"? Like it or not, her support lead to Obama going from obscure nobody to media darling. If he fucks up, blame Oprah, people. Blame Oprah. :roll:

America's greatest strength has always been its freedom of speech. Coincidentally, America's greatest weakness has also always been its freedom of speech. Why aren't people rioting in the streets, like they would've been just a few decades ago? We live in an era where information is far more accessible. The power Youtube holds is seemingly infinite. Once it's captured on video and uploaded to that site, there's no going back. Hillary's downfall began when she made the comment regarding Martin Luther King Jr. I understand what she meant, but the context it was placed in, once again, by the media and then ripped apart by reporters, so-called "political analysts" and "political experts",

As a young black kid from a town so small it's not even on the state map, I NEVER thought I would see the day a black man would run for president and I imagined I'd be first in line to vote for him. While I would love to vote for the black guy, as I've been told by other blacks, I should, I am not inclined to vote for THAT black guy. He's by far, one of the worst candidates I've seen in recent memory. I can say that because I'm in a position to fight to change my country and I'm DOING just that, not just talking about it.

America has slowly been falling apart since the day Clinton left office. That's not a propagandist view; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look around and see the shit-hole we're in. It's going to take a little longer than four years, a shaky candidate and a seemingly empty promise of "change" to turn us around. It's gotta start with the people, but sadly enough, we'd much rather complain about it than actually do anything to change it. But then again, why bother voting when your vote means nothing? It meant nothing for Hillary and--not that I'm against gay unions--the will of the people meant nothing in San Francisco. Speaking of San Fran, anybody notice Obama didn't announce his position against gay marriage until after he had their votes? Mama didn't raise no fool. The difference between Clinton and Obama? When Clinton won, there were sick people, women and blue-collar workers cheering. When Obama won, there were chardonnay glasses clinking. Who says he's not one of the "good ol' boys" club?

/rant

Wow...after all that, now I'm hungry. lol :oops:

If you believe all he has said is change with no details then you have been listening to too many sound bytes and not doing your homework.

To be honest I am not a fan of either Clinton or Obama (I would have preferred Edwards) but if you're gonna open your trap be sure you know what you're talking about.

Also, anyone who was for Clinton who is now going to "stay home" or vote for McCain should think about what you are giving up. In the next 4 years there will be things that need to be done like Supreme Court appointments. McCain has said he wants to see Roe v Wade overturned and would appoint someone like Scalia. One more justice like Scalia on the supreme court and I will be in the back of the bus again and transgender people will be in the public square bing stoned. What kind of moron would risk having a supreme court stacked against everyone who isn't a white male or a large corporation? You could look forward to more asinine laws like imminent domain and things of this sort. This type of logic is baffling to me.
06-08-2008
trish

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Also, anyone who was for Clinton who is now going to "stay home" or vote for McCain should think about what you are giving up. In the next 4 years there will be things that need to be done like Supreme Court appointments. McCain has said he wants to see Roe v Wade overturned and would appoint someone like Scalia. One more justice like Scalia on the supreme court and I will be in the back of the bus again and transgender people will be in the public square bing stoned. What kind of moron would risk having a supreme court stacked against everyone who isn't a white male or a large corporation? You could look forward to more asinine laws like imminent domain and things of this sort. This type of logic is baffling to me.

...a sentiment worth repeating.
06-08-2008
goldensamba

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Originally Posted by trish

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Also, anyone who was for Clinton who is now going to "stay home" or vote for McCain should think about what you are giving up. In the next 4 years there will be things that need to be done like Supreme Court appointments. McCain has said he wants to see Roe v Wade overturned and would appoint someone like Scalia. One more justice like Scalia on the supreme court and I will be in the back of the bus again and transgender people will be in the public square bing stoned. What kind of moron would risk having a supreme court stacked against everyone who isn't a white male or a large corporation? You could look forward to more asinine laws like imminent domain and things of this sort. This type of logic is baffling to me.

...a sentiment worth repeating.

Thanks Trish,

No matter who we supported when this whole thing started I would think that everyone on this board can agree with that.

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