[/quote]this place is like a cult. if you don't accept everyone else's beliefs you are insulted and shunned.
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Lol, I see another goodbye thread coming!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
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[/quote]this place is like a cult. if you don't accept everyone else's beliefs you are insulted and shunned.
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Lol, I see another goodbye thread coming!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
tsntx i will give up all my beliefs for a couple handfuls of that booty. just kidding i can't be wrong nobody can because we're basing everything on feelings now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
Instinct..a dier need to be who we always were! You can't help who you are, you just are! You can't help you are sexually attracted to, you're attracted to them no matter how hard you put it in the back of your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashysmashY
hows this for "feelings"Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashysmashY
i, a transexual woman of 4.5yrs, find it INCREDIBLY insulting and nothing makes me FEEL more disgusted, more frustrated, more like ive wasted my money and my time, more like a fucking fag in drag ... then hearing a bunch of guys say the same thing about a CD as they do a TS
did i really spend $30k so i could live, eat, shit, pass, and function as a woman and be accepted as a woman by society and the men that make up this stupid board JUST TO LEARN THAT I COULD HAVE FUCKING STAYED LOOKING LIKE *see picture* THIS AND PUT ON A STUPID WIG AND SOME CHEAP ASS LIPSTICK AND I WOULD BE GETTING JUST AS MUCH RESPECT, ADMERATION, AND APPLAUSE FROM YALL???
it makes no difference? do you assholes realise how much easier ANY OF OUR *real ts's* LIVES WOULD BE HAD WE ALL JUST STAYED FUCKING MEN?
if i knew i would get seen the SAME FUCKING WAY whether i looked like this *pic a* or this *pic b* by the majority of society ... i would have just stayed that way.... everything would have been so much more simple....
this is why i say men that ACTUALLY date ts women understand the difference.... the rest of you fags just need the appearance to stay in the fantasy, you dont really want anything other then a cock in 'pretty' package... and thats why as far as im concerned this topic, at least for me, IS OVER... the guys that sympathize and understand where im coming from and appreciate the work we put into ourselves already know this... and the losers that dont and argue against me for fags in drag ... are fags... and thus not worth anymore of time... i charge douchebags that like to play pretend... and the trial offer is up.
do you understand NOW what the fuck were *ts's* upset about when you fags say shit like this thread?
Not all guys are like that here, there are many who appreciate you as real women and leave the cross dressers to the people who define feminism as a wig and a good make up job.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsntx
Very good post, you just kicked ass!
True Beauty got it right. The Kinsey Scale
0= Total Straight
6= Total Gay
0 - Not in denial about anything. sex with anything but a woman has never crossed his mind. Doesn't refer to anyone or anything as gay because it has never been an issue.
1 - Has some sort of reference point of gay even though currently and in the future it is safe to say that only women will share his bed or get near his member. That gay reference may have been exploration by typical young boys out of curiosity or actually viewing some gay porn at some point with some fascination.
2 - As an adult has masturbated to something involving another man. Notices men even though it is usually for self comparison reasons. He has a girlfriend. Pursues only girls and doesn't share anything about whatever his curiosity in other men is, was or may be.
3 - Identifies himself as straight but likes feminine transsexual women as well as genetic women. He prefers not to choose but probably would prefer not to share his feelings publicly. He would be happy with either, but will trend toward a transsexual if it meant he would not be identified as such. Harbors no curiosity about masculine men except possibly looking at their cocks for comparison or just fascination. Has experimented with all realms of porn including gay but his real turn on is for feminine girls and transsexuals.
4. Only satisfied with transsexuals. Likes them to be feminine but has been drawn to more masculine features from time to time as well good looking crossdressers. Has a history with genetic women but for the most part has not pursued new relationships with them or has become somewhat dissatisfied with current relationship with genetic girl. Also has probably had a gay relationship or encounter or at least was tempted to.
5. Likes men. Everything about them. Often the more feminine type or feminine acting. But most men offer some type of appeal. Men playing dress up as a woman for fun or even crossdressing occasionally is a turn on and can also be the one dressing up as well. "Womaness" becomes a submissive quality that allows each "role" to be satisfying.
6. Likes their men and only men. There is nothing remotely sexual for them when dealing with a female, or a transsexual. Masculine man on man sex is the ultimate state of being.
Okay so this is not a very good attempt at defining each scale. True Beauty could do better. And I'm not happy that I'm a THREE!!!!! Maybe a 2-3!!!!! I so wanted to be a total ZERO. Oh well. Impossible to be a Zero and fuck some of my favorite girls. Okay, I'll redo it so I'm a solid two. I could live with that.
We need more numbers.
What are you?
I'm none of them, I have never experiemented with gay porn for one.
Look as I said, if you can't except Transwomen as real women, then you are in the wrong forum and if you can except part time crosss dressers as real women, well you are insane!
Don't hit your head on the way out :roll:
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Originally Posted by lust4ts
Jenn & Lust4ts, I want to be clear on what you are saying. Is this what you mean....?
A transsexual is defined by what she does, not how she may feel. You can't just feel you are a TS, you actually have to do something about it. So until you start hormones or have any surgeries, you are not a TS, correct? You are a boy. At best, you might be a CD, drag queen, faggot or whatever....
Is it possible for someone to be a CD at one point in their lives and then go on to become a TS?
And finally, a man is defined by how he feels, not what he does. No matter how many sexual acts he has with another penis that is not his own. As long as he feels he is straight, then that's how he should be identified as.
This topic has gotten very clouded with many different arguments topics going on at the same time. I just want to see if I understand you both.
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point isn't to choose what you are, as much as to admit what we are be it a TS or genetic guy TS admirer. There is something a shade beyond hetero sex here.
Like I said before. I see two knockout girls. A GG and a TS even though I'm giving up on both of them. LOL. But when all things are perfect I tend to like the TS, as far as sex goes. Why? I've never been topped in my life. So why? It is different. Almost undefinable. But what if my TS girl had SRS? I don't want her to. Thank God she doesn't want to. Why does that make a difference to me? This used to make me uncomfortable. Now it doesn't. Why? Personally I don't care. But there might be something a bit gay about it. So what.
God you are repetative, how many times do I have to state my position :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueBeauty TS
I base my belief on the fact that a transWOMEN is so because she really is a women, a CROSSdresser is so because he is a man.
Can you not see it from the mans perspective, mine. I am attracted to women, the fact that one who has a cock/or not (post op) I also find attractive does not make me gay, just appreciative that they really are women, just as I view a GG, it has nothing to do with the genitalia, it is about being that person, that women, all day, every day, that is what I find attractive!
Wanting to fuck a guy in a wig and makeup, knowing very well that, that person is not really the person I see, even if they look super hot would make me gay!