It looks like Trump is literally driving Americans crazy. https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...logists-221305
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It looks like Trump is literally driving Americans crazy. https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...logists-221305
CNN is saying Mueller is going to have lots of indictments after the election, and could be finished by December. That would be the politically correct time to pounce, I think. He will report to Rosenstein, if he's still around, and it's possible that a newly Democratic House might have to press the AG to spill the juiciest dirt.
I'm looking at the Democratic Presidential hopefuls....I don't see JFK there. If Mueller murders Trump, maybe the Dems could run another O'bama. O'Rourke? We'll see if Pretty Boy has the Real Stuff.
Mr Magoo OUT
Mr Clean IN
Let the Games begin.
The Stakes: just Control of the Western World.
More like Mr Magoo OUT, Mr Stooge IN
https://www.salon.com/2018/11/12/tru...s-chess-match/
+I can only guess what WINNING looks like now from the Trump point of view, Come January, the Dems are going to show him why he can't do the things he's doing. Trump skipped Veteran's day responsibilities, but Mueller didn't.
I think a lot of people are going to have their eyes opened this year. I guess what they say is true, anyone can grow up to be President in the USA. Even if you never grew up
[url=https://imgbb.com/]https://image.ibb.co/fe8GDV/Trump-Youth-Kids.jpg
Trump has clearly been having a prolonged sulk/tantrum since the mid-term results came in. https://www.salon.com/2018/11/14/not...nster-returns/
What are the chances that he'll eventually have a complete meltdown that forces Mike Pence to think about invoking Article 25 Section 4? That tends to happen with malignant narcissists when reality refuses to conform to their demands. This could get very ugly.
Trump definitely looks tired, maybe Whitaker told him everything Mueller has, maybe Putin gave him some bad news in France, who knows? I think it's safe to say we sailed past ugly two years ago, I think it was Zsa Zsa Gabor who said eventually a woman has to choose between her face and her ass, I think Trump has painted himself in a corner and now that corner is falling away. What we don't know and don't see is in full bloom now, we're headed into a new chapter in American Politics, rumors, lies, disinformation, they all play a big part in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
...I need to figure out a way to soundtrack some Helicopter background noise behind my posts to make them seem more substantial.....
As Trump, Manafort, Stone, and other assorted weasels try to use this Yuletime Break to muddy the waters, it looks like Mueller has moved his pawn Michael Cohen into motion to respond. Turn up the heat a bit. Bring to a boil, then put a lid on it to simmer. If I were Trump I'd order up a few Prostitutes while I'm in Venezuela, the whores in Club Fed aren't that great, I would imagine. All I want for Christmas is Trump in the Big House. If you think Pence is befuddled now...……..wait and see what he inherits from the Trump Family. ha ha ha ha
Did you boys catch the bro-shake between MSB and Putin today? It looks like it must be fun to be getting away with murder.
Dearest Citizen One:
Have yourself a Merry little Christmas, because the Ghost of Christmas Future is testifying against you with Robert Mueller. ho ho ho.
Donald Trump looks very young in that photo. His hair is much darker and not the blonde look we see in the news videos.
That photo must be about 30 years old, given Ivanka is now 37, so he would have been in his early 40s. I'm pretty sure Trump dies his hair, among other ridiculous things he does to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom1964
All politicians promise everything, but do they deliver? How is Donald Trump doing with creating jobs? What has he done and what hasn't he done so far? i would love to hear genuine comments as we don't hear a lot as im in UK. I also remember about a wall being built. Is that still happening? Whats the positives and negatives? Whats his views on tgirls?
Where have you been the past 2 years Tom? If you haven't heard much about Trump then you must have been marooned on a desert island. I'm not American either, but there are almost as many stories about Trump in the media as there are about Australian politics - though granted we don't have any issues that match the Brexit debacle.
He’s doing a TREMENDOUS job. He’s a TREMENDOUS president with TREMENDOUS ideas, a TREMENDOUS staff, a TREMENDOUS cabinet, a TREMENDOUS command of the English language and a commensurate vocabulary. Great, huge, bigly, thumbs up ... not to mention he's also an ignorant narcissist, a stupid pea brain, a bigoted, misogynistic, racist, and a compulsive liar.
I don't think anyone is surprised that the Commander-in-Chief has declared victory over ISIS and intends to pull US forces out of Syria, and did so without first informing the Department of Defence, or State, or the National Security Adviser.
What we have not been told is whether or not Erdogan decided to squeeze the balls of the draft-dodging coward from Queens. Turkey fuming over the gruesome slaughter of Jamal Khasoggi (the Saudi butchers didn't even sedate the man before sawing off his limbs) has been dismayed by the defence of MBS by his boy in Washington, so they needed a deal.
How about Turkey let's the American continue to rake in the cash from his investments in the country while delivering the Kurds to Ankara? By pulling the US out of Syria, this is not just a victory for Syria, Russia and Iran, as well as the 14,000 or so ISIS fighters still there (their last operation came minutes before the President's victory tweet), it is a cruel blow to the Kurds who did most of the ground work to obliterate ISIS in Northern Syria.
just as Erdogan said of the Kurds "we will bury them in their ditches" so he turned to the American and said "and you can keep your towers and your cash" and the American smiled. After all, the whole point of the foreign policy of the USA is to put money in his pocket. You have to feel sorry for Michael Flynn, his Intel firm was so involved in Turkey and made him so much money but his business partner was allied to the Russians. He is heading off to prison in disgrace while the other guy polishes his arse on a golden chair in the Oval Office, mentally counting the day's profit.
And the Kurds? Wait and see.
I'm a bit torn on this one. As always, you can query Trump's motivations and method and whether he's making a considered decision or just acting on impulse. On the other hand, there are good arguments that US interventions in the Middle East have generally done more harm than good and it may be better to cut your losses rather than continue is pursuit of some illusory victory. If you relied on the military's advice you could never get out because they will always argue that more troops are needed for longer to finish the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stavros
Like a stopped clock, Trump may be right occasionally, even if he is right for the wrong reasons.
Well, that's that.
Military Coup on Christmas Day?
Individual One in Bunker Mode?
Govt Shutdown?
Mueller pounces late February.
Who's going to want that Secretary of Defense job, Eric and Junior?
Is it still Thursday?
No, it's the second quarter of the Redskins/Bronco Superbowl. The role of Doug Williams will be played by Robert Mueller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCkmOCsI-hc
I guess we'll have to do our National Duty and start an Over/ Under pool of what day Trump will get the cuffs. Will he blubber???
You laffin' putin? Yer next!
You make some good points, although I think the Americans - and the British, assuming anyone right now is in control of policy- are damned if they do and damned if they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by filghy2
i would suggest a good way to understand the dilemma is to contrast the structural with the conjunctural approaches to crisis, war and resolution.
The conjunctural presents the immediate case of intervention to change the course of a crisis, which may succeed or, as in Syria, draw the parties deeper into an internal conflict they do not own and cannot control. This has sometimes been known as 'mission creep' and prolongs the conflict until the political, military and financial costs become too great and a resolution is sought. The US has decided the political costs in Syria are greater than the benefit, but while a withdrawal benefits Syria, Russia and Iran they are now left with the burden of rebuilding Syria which in the Russian case appears to be a long term commitment to the security of Syria. It presents a dilemma for Israel which sees Syria as a threat but where the Russian presence is more significant than the Iranian.
israel and Russia are on speaking terms at least and there may be an agreement to curtail Iranian influence though one cannot rule out mischief making for the sake of it, just to remind Israel it too must exercise restraint. However, the rebuilding of Syria if it takes place will require 10 years of relative peace and there is no conclusion yet to the conflict with Daesh and al-Qaeda, or an agreement with the Syrian opposition to formally end the war and move to the next stage. On this basis the US has weakened its position by absenting itself from any political resolution to the Syrian conflict, just as it fled Iraq once the first post-Saddam government was elected, though the effect was to boost Iranian influence there.
if you compare the conjunctural to the structural you notice the difference, one good the other bad. The positive example is the allied takeover of Germany in 1945 which divided the country in two but led to a new state formation that was created in the West through a total commitment that was political, financial and also social, if the de-Nazificatiom process is seen that way. There was no independent German government until 1949, in the interim West Germany was in effect run by the US, Britain and France with the NATO alliance forming an important umbrella that rehabilitated a West Germany into the international system- the Saarland remained under French sovereignty until 1957 and the Federal Republic joined the UN in 1973.
The structural approach thus involves a party that intervened in a conflict seeing it through to the end of the military phase, then taking over or even creating a state apparatus, considered necessary in the case of Germany because Hitler had destroyed its previous formation. However, while reconstruction happened in Japan, the US controlling Japanese politics and the economy until 1952, they left the Monarchy intact, and neutralised the military which was absorbed into an American Asian defence strategy linked with Korea and Taiwan.
But clearly the structural approach is hugely expensive and time consuming, and the powers have not repeated it since.
The negative example of the structural approach is found with the Anglo-French division of the Middle East after the war in 1918. Creating new states against the will of the people, subordinating the region, in Britain's case, to its strategic interests in India, or exploiting local resources -oil in Iraq from the late 1920s- the reconstruction of the Middle East created new problems rather than resolving those that existed when the Ottomam Empire joined the war on the German side in 1914, and lost.
It is about commitment, but also empathy with the fallen- it was easier to rebuild Germany, there were ties and relationships based on shared values. The Arabs never enjoyed that relationship of equality, simply because as Arabs they were deemed to be inferior people, a view in 1914 that remains central to the contemporary problems that appear to have no solution today, and where after one hundred years of intervention thete is a sense that nothing has been learned, and the same mistakes are made again, and again.
But, as Mother Courage knew, war is profitable for enough people to keel it going.
Michael Cohen was convicted of tax fraud and of lying to Congress. He lied to Congress about when he stopped communicating with Russian officials to develop Trump Tower Moscow. He now claims that Trump instructed him to lie to Congress which is obstruction of justice. Everyone (ie. lawyers, constitutional scholars including previous holdouts) agrees that obstruction of justice that takes this form is always impeachable.
It remains to be seen what corroborating evidence there is of Trump instructing Cohen. If it is just Cohen's word and not something in the cache of other communications Mueller likely has, Republicans can and probably will refuse to take the word of a convicted perjurer. We're going to find out in the coming weeks/months what it is that corroborates this if anything.
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/sta...19880025284608
Mueller's office disputes the report of this which originated with buzzfeed. Make of this what you will. They are not clarifying the record, which makes sense since they've not been releasing their findings through the press, but it remains to be seen what was inaccurate.
Amidst this reportage I read that what he really wanted was to create a broadcast network to rival CNN to be called TNN, and that this continues to exercise his imagination to the extent that he will not run in 2020 but revert to the broadcast project, assuming he needs other financial backers for it. I also read I think in the NYT that of his core base, men without college degrees, they are so disillusioned with his incompetence they will not vote at all in 2020. Whether this is good news for the Democrats depends on whether or no they choose Biden or Harris.
Though one must also ponder the very real prospect of this lame excuse for a man spending the rest of his life in prison.
Who would want to finance Trump given his history of losing his financier's money? Would the Russians want to keep financing him once he is out of power?
I doubt very much that Trump will quit voluntarily because he knows he would be seen as a loser and that's something he can't bear. His instinct will always be to double down and hope that his usual tactics will succeed. The only way he will go quietly is if he thinks it is the only way to avoid prison. One suggestion is that he might resign just before the end of his term in return for a pardon from Pence. But that would require a large section of the Republican Party to turn against him and we're a long way from that.
I agree on the financials though there are some who would buy into it. He thinks he has a winner's genes, believing that genes are destiny. He will pobabaly not run in 2020 to avoid losing, and if he resigns it will be in triumph, and 'write' a book proclaiming himself the undefeated, and the greatest and the most popular President of all time.
In my mind...…..no way in Hell will Trump be walking around in 2020, much less running for President.
So far Mueller has busted 15 moons around Planet Putin, and 8 moons of Planet Trump...Hmmm, not to hard to see where this is going. Trump will be the easy part, now that Nancy has teeth, we're seeing that Trump and his circle of ass-ociates are like extras on The Sopranos, cut-rate punks. PUTIN, on the other hand, is the Devil. It will be interesting to see what happens, and how much of it we will never know because it's classified.
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Originally Posted by buttslinger
you can pretty much say this is all you said. and all anyone else says here. too bad it doesn't mean shit.
https://media.townhall.com/townhall/...ffc2248856.png
I agree that some people can look at a dress and see yellow, and some people see blue,Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
some people hear "laurel' some people hear "yanny",
and I agree that Democrats see a Catholic School punk in DC for a phony PRO-LIFE Day,
and Republicans see another illegal alien browning up the Country,
but we'll see who Trump is lying to when Mueller finishes his report,
lots of Republicans will have THE SHIT on their faces.
I’m agreeing, at least in part, with buttslinger on this one.
It is worth noting that even in the case of the yellow/blue dress, we do know what the person means who says it’s yellow, we just may not agree. So yes, what people say here has meaning.
You know, there’s a reason nearly everybody on social media is familiar with the yellow/blue dress or the laurel/yanny auditory illusion. They’re memorable because they’re interesting; and they’re interesting because they’re rare and unusual. Most of the time, even when we disagree with one another, there’s a discernible truth independent of the biases and sensory capacities of the observer.
Most human beings have the capacity to interpret a shit-eating grin when they see it in context. Most people know Trump was lying when he claimed his inaugural crowd “went all the way back to the Washington Monument” and “looked like a million-and-a-half people.” Yet apparently quite a few human beings also know how to obfuscate the obvious. Worse, there are more who are willing to believe (or at least repeat) any obfuscation, no matter how clearly contrived, as long as it supports their own preconceptions.
Is there a shit storming coming? Should Trump supporters be advised to pull their MAGA visors down over their eyes and turn off all the fans? I don’t know. I’m not even sure I want that sort of shit-storm.
Rather than an impeachment that leaves Pence in power, I'd like the Right to see Trump for what he is, a con man, and a media-constructed cartoon. (Unfortunately, they already know he’s an irreligious blowhard, a liar, an ignoramus, a narcissist, a bigot, a racist and a misogynistic white supremacist - but they’re all okay with that). Rather than be impeached, I’d like to see his base dissolve. I want Trump to lose, yes - but I’d rather the electorate escort him to the door, not Congress. Impeachment will only deepen the gaping divide between Americans. More than anything, we need to clean that wound and sew it up, not throw more salt in it.
i agree about your dress color analogy- my point is that there is selective ignorance on both sides. the right chooses to focus only on what they wish to see and they ignore what doesn't support their argument. the left kinda does the same thing: so in the end, it's basically who is worseQuote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
i'm personally not sure when so many conservatives forgot that trump promised that mexico would build the wall, but sometime between then and now- they've taken it upon themselves to "try" and fund it's construction themselves.
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall
why they wouldn't ask the billionaire in charge (and his family, their friends and their families) to pony up some extra millions is beyond me- but the narrative has now changed. it's the left's fault for not allow trump to work his "art of the deal" with mexico. which is why that gofundme still needed his blessing.
we don't just choose the colors we wish to see- but we make sure those colors are the exact opposite of our opponents- because this assures us, we're seeing the correct colors
at least, that's how the right knows roger stone is innocent.
http://stonedefensefund.com/
btw: would be curious your thoughts on "fake" philosopher and apparent right wing genius jordan peterson. he really salts my meat, but he's very entertaining to watch (for like 15min). he has this merry go-round way of answering even the simplest question- which really excites his fanbase into a frenzy because they hear very sound and reasonable arguments that support their beliefs.
of course pete is doing nothing more but selling snake oil- but maybe my eyes just don't register whatever color coded snake oil he's selling
Never heard of Jordan Peterson, but I'm sure if I listened to him for ten years I'd agree with him wholeheartedly. That's the problem. I agree that both parties are not perfect, but your choice for President shouldn't hinge on whether he likes Rock music or Country music. Congress has a approval rating of 13%....that's not my opinion, that's a fact (give or take)
None of my complaints matter if I don't have a solution, and I hope the solution isn't that one day we all wake up one day and find every thing we use is made in China.
After we hang Trump and humiliate Putin, we will still be left with the Trump Army. The rules are different in the Country or in the City. There are words and there is THE WORD. You don't have to be nice AND smart but you have to be one or the other. CNN and MSNBC are head and shoulders above Fox as NEWS organizations. Obama is head and shoulders above Bush Jr and Trump. If you don't agree with that, you are wrong.
Today I am going to buy a SuperBigGulp Coke and some kind of hideous junk food, it will be the only time of the day I'm happy. I've got a message for everyone here: when you get old your brain and body goes straight to Hell. The good news is also the bad news, every American owns a say in the Future of the United States. Alone, my voice is worth one divided by 300 million. As a Democrat, my voice is worth 153 million times that. I give Obama a 100% rating because he was right 86% of the time. I give Trump a ZERO because he is right 24% of the time. And, oh yeah, he's a goddam traitor.
https://i.ibb.co/Dk5pXj8/kim-donald-trump-jr.jpg
Pardon the sleazy pic, politik pornographic
Russian and China are closer than they've been in 60 years. They're fine tuning their plans to delegitimize the 2020 election.
I need to go back to my swiss spa with the nurses in the tight uniforms. If it weren't for the morphine cocktails, I'd feel embarrassed to be babied so....just kidding.
I wonder, If Mueller found out Trump was blabbing secrets to Putin- what would he do? Shouldn't he maybe tell somebody?????
Make a couple calls?
When a President is so sore at being contradicted by his three intelligence chiefs that he calls them 'naive' and suggests they 'go back to school' (if I was insulted like that I would resign),one wonders if he gets his intelligence from another (American? Non-American?) source.
When we are told that "I think God calls all of us to fill different roles at different times and I think that He wanted Donald Trump to become president.",
You have to wonder if there is a god, or that god might be as stupid as the President. And yes, all American children should have to sit through hours of bible classes every day, just like the Branch Davidians in Waco...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47066659
In the USA we give the Devil his due. Donald Trump was elected by The People of these United States, maybe not fair and square, but as P T Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute"
As one of my many co-workers said to one of my many bosses "I've seen 'em come, and I've seen 'em go.
We routinely insult the gun lovers, climate change deny-ers, homophobes, rubes, pro-lifers and Religious nut-jobs. It's only fair they insult us back, for reasons that make absolutely no sense to us.
I dunno, I don't pretend to know, but I think the Generals and Intelligence Chiefs and the FBI see exactly what is going on. Unfortunately they're not allowed to destroy the Republican Party to get their man. They're not allowed to break the rules. Trump will pay for his sins not because he is a foul human being, he'll lose his Name and Fortune because he marked the wrong box on his Civil Service application that read "Are you now or have you ever been a member of a group that plans to overthrow the Government of the United States?"
Trump is a Clown, Rush Limbaugh is the real Devil here.
CORRECTION:
Limbaugh is a clown, Bill Belichick is the devil.
UPDATE:
He who laughs last laughs best, the worm has turned, it's not going to be good to be the King anymore. These next two years are going to be something else.
Because Nancy runs the House, Donald won't have anything to give his base, even McConnell has warned Trump about the concern in the Senate if a President whips up an Emergency so he could use the Armed Forces for a whim. If Trump doesn't get his big beautiful WALL, he better have a good De-Fence.
While Mueller is limited in their scope to Russia and the Election, the Democrats Oversight Power is only limited to their capacity of Shame. If they dig in the right places, you know Trump has enough dirt to be hung twenty times over.
It really bugs me that Putin is probably having a martini, a massage, a real nice meal and a blow job all the while laughing at these United States. Who knows how much damage that prick has done. This is a low point on the mast for Old Glory, and that's putting it mildly.
according to donald trump: 2 of the greatest accomplishments of our great nation (the united states to you pea brains) are:
1). gaining our independence
2). abolition of civil rights
both were started with prayer. and amen says i
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieKRTPVMxDU
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...f-constitution
If you thought Baby Donald was bad, wait til you see how he perform during the terrible twos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUvfZj-Fm0
entertaining
Rather than salivate at the prospect of impeachment, you might want to pay attention to the President's actual comments, his claim that the US economy was about to go into recession before he saved it; that the 2020 Election is all but rigged by the Democrats-
"The Democrats in Congress yesterday were vicious and totally showed their cards for everyone to see," Mr Trump tweeted on Saturday morning.
"When the Republicans had the Majority they never acted with such hatred and scorn! The Dems are trying to win an election in 2020 that they know they cannot legitimately win!"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8771351.html
This might be the moment for someone to ask the President if he intends to abolish elections in the USA, and rule the USA in a permanent state of emergency.
If you pay attention to Trump's comments, you fall directly into his trap, you listen to him, but he listens to nobody but Anne Coulter. Trump locked into the pure hatred that his base has for the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. I really do believe he was shocked on how far that hatred carried him. Every time Sean Hannity rolls out a continuous rant against Democrats, that's a commercial for Trump. Every time CNN and MSNBC rage against Trump, that's a free commercial for Trump. Everyone agrees that NOW is fucked up, it's the FUTURE they are concerned about. All those Federal Judges...….sigh.....Every time you donate 10 bucks to a politician it goes to a TV or radio commercial, Trump got free TV time because of the outrageous things he says. The more outrageous, the more coverage.
You don't sell the steak, you sell the sizzle. If you can con a few hundred thousand people in Ohio, you can be President. When it comes to the art of the con, only Putin tops Trump. I can only wonder what Russian Politics is like.