First you have to absolutely prove she is a TGirl, and then you have to get past Obama and the secret service! Why in the world are you using the N word to define your cock?Quote:
Originally Posted by Donkey
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First you have to absolutely prove she is a TGirl, and then you have to get past Obama and the secret service! Why in the world are you using the N word to define your cock?Quote:
Originally Posted by Donkey
Because I made a Mistake in spelling, Dahlia pointed that out to me. that was my fault. But it is still asking the question, not assuming Michelle is a TGirl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben in LA
It's to throw red herrings on the subject at hand and to take us on a different direction which is not the topic.
You're close to the real reason the word was started and used. :-)
I think the first Rap record or group to attach the word N**** to their name is NWA = N****as With an Attitude! I could be wrong. No famous rapper I know from my recollection used the N word in their songs or their moniker.
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Originally Posted by Dahlia Babe Ailhad
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Originally Posted by fred41
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Originally Posted by Babe
ahhh...another conspiracy.
figures...:smh
(Sighs) Hi fred41,
I am glad you commented the way in which you did. You have made a very intelligent quote.
To respond, i will say...
Actually, no! It wasn't ONLY the 14th century Sephardic Jews' faults.
The black African slave traders, themselves, who had already been enslaving their own people, long BEFORE the Sephardic Jews arrived with Columbus, are primarily to blame because they 1; enslaved their own people and 2; allowed their own people to be taken away for profit. It seems the Africans would have sold the African slaves to ANYONE with the means to pay the African traders their fees. So, please, do say that i attach blame only to the Jewish race for enslaving the blacks.
So typical to be so selective when dissecting other peoples' words, you just did the same thing as Bronco did.
That's why i don't like getting into debates and arguments with people, because instead of discussing, they manipulate.
Turns my stomach. I end up having to repeat everything over and over and over again and all for the benefit of someone who lives in denial.
What i will say is that was the Sephardic Jews who brought the slaves to North America and "set up shop" for the purpose of selling slaves did just that. That is what they did.
You choose to deny that? Look it up, fellas.
You need a goy to teach you about your history?
Read this:
Jewish views on slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another conspiracy theory?
How can you explain the minstrel shows of the south, the Amos 'n Andy radio show, Al Jolson, and all the other Jewish people who created and performed in it all, for profit. Just another conspiracy theory? What a universal excuse you have.
The Hebrew Bible and parts of the Talmud have rules and regulations concerning slavery of Hebrew and non-Hebrew people.
And the Hebrews were enslaving people as far back as the year 946 or somewhere around at that time. AND they were not the only people enslaving others. It was a common thing back then, in human history.
You didn't know that?
It's not "another Conspiracy Theory", sweety, as you like to make everyone believe. It's part of Hebrew, and human, history.
Humans enslave other humans!
Why act so offended and defensive? Do you feel ashamed of the teachings in Hebrew Bible and the Talmud?
I have a feeling that feel you and Broncofan are Jewish. Which kind are you, guys? There are several different kinds - Mizrachim, Asian, Sephardic, Ethiopian, Ashkenazi? What?! What?! Tell me, already!?
I, personally, don't give a hoot what you are. Just be happy in life and be good people.
You guys ARE NOT personally responsible for any of this, so why get "your panties all in a bunch".
Imagine some Amerindians accusing me personally of killing their ancestors and stealing their land hundreds of years ago.
I didn't do it! They can't blame ME!
BUT i can't and won't sit there telling them, with my eyes sarcastically rolling around my eye-sockets, "Oh right, another conspiracy theory? FIGURES!"
That would be being a hypocrite. No?
I am not knocking Jewish people, i like Jewish people. They are good people.
However, i've read parts of the Talmud and thought. "HOLY CRAP!! Is that what they really think?"
But none of the Jewish gentlemen i know read that stuff. They don't even know about it and they were quite surprised that i did.
They hardly practice their religion all that much, they just follow the customs for the most part to save face.
Like the non-practicing Christians do.
So, please don't go to bed thinking that i am against Jewish people because i am not.
Anyway, this thread is dealing with the use of the N word.
I just wanted to know how that word came to be, and slavery was the result.
It's, now, turned into a hijacked thread about Michelle Obama for some reason.
I just mentioned the slavery topic because it came into view during my research. And then i began to notice how the Jews were responsible for the adding to the negative attitudes against the blacks in the Southern USA which coincided with the Southern USA residents' negative opinions of the blacks.
This world is really crazy.
I am really sorry if this causes Jewish people to cringe as i know they are NOT really responsible for this.
It's the same thing i had experienced when i lived in Germany. Germans really don't like discussing Nazis or Neo-Nazis at all. It rubs them the wrong way. I can see why.
BUT, the word nigger did not just pop up out of the ground in the 14th century.
Anyway, fred, i think i've been gracious enough to respectfully address your comment, as politely as, i could do. I really do hope i have not offended you or any other Jewish person. It's not your fault what happened centuries ago. But you can, at least, respectfully acknowledge historical facts for what they are without taking it so gosh-darned personal.
I won't allow myself to be "baited" into more of this denial of yours and whoever else's.
Anyone can deny history, all we like, if it makes us feel better.
But God will still judge us all in the end.
People are supposed to be in this thread discussing or trying to figure out why porn stars use this nasty word so freely.
Now, has anyone figured out which black music artists first used the nasty word, nigger, in their music?
Just find out who, and i'll search for what i said i would, in my previous post.
Thanks for reading.
Babe
xoxo
I was not going to comment but now I think I must. I don't see why I should have to tell you that I'm Jewish to object to what you said. I'm sure there are many gentiles who would object, including the NAACP, which objected to the very same thesis you're presenting. There are both methodological problems and factual errors in your post. Let's start with the methodological:
You seem to imply that by identifying individual Jews who have done things they should not have, that you have identified a Jewish enterprise. Yes, there were Jews who wrote racist songs and Jews who were slaveowners. Both reprehensible positions but that does not mean they wrote the racist songs because they were Jews or that it was a widespread Jewish activity. They also were probably not slaveowners because there's talmudic and biblical support for it. Asserting as much would be akin to saying that the Ku Klux Klan represented Catholicism when they did no such thing, simply because the kkk quoted scripture from their canon.
So I'm not really impressed that you can find individual Jews who have done deplorable things just as I would not be convinced if you decided to look for Irish surnames and found some people of that background who had done things they should not have. I would think it strange if you then claimed something was controlled and directed by a cabal of Irishmen simply because you found some people from that background who took these actions as individuals.
Factually, there are numerous rebuttals to what you have said. The sources I've found indicate there were 12 Jewish plantation owners in the south. It may be easier to say there were more and they were hiding their Jewishness, but Jews were a very small minority of slaveowners. Jewish people were also a small minority of slave-traders. Even if it were true, which it most definitely is not, that Jews were the majority of slaveowners, it would not imply guilt for Jews born after the fact. So the need to emphasize their background is odd...
Then there's some of the shoddy reasoning you engage in. You seem to imply that if a Jewish guy produces a music video where an African-American uses the n word, it was the Jewish producer who manipulated him into saying it. Yes producers have control over what content they back financially, and they may attach strings to the content they produce, but I doubt anyone ever insisted that African-Americans use the n word as part of a plan to damage their culture.
Then there are the general statements you made that are factually unsupported and simply not true. You say that Jews got so fricken rich through slavery. Even without looking it up I can tell you a miniscule number of Jews got rich that way since the vast majority of Jews came to this country in the late 19th century from Eastern Europe. They were not slave traders from Eastern Europe or plantation owners but were absolutely broke when they arrived here.
There is the claim that Jews keep it in the family. Well again, one of my siblings is married to an Irish Catholic and the rate of inter-marriage in the U.S is extremely high.
Then there is the claim that the U.S is run by Jewish money and Jewish media brainwashing. This should speak for itself and is depressingly familiar.
And I'm an Ashkenazi Jew since you asked.
As a follow-up to that last post I want to sum up what you’ve done since I know you’ll engage in a melodramatic denial. Is it the same thing to say that the Jews controlled the slave trade as it would be to identify a nation state and say they were responsible? Of course not. Nation-states by their very nature are acting by fiat, according to a plan and with the sanction of their government. On the other hand, an activity does not become a “Jewish-activity” simply because you can identify Jewish participants. Just as Communism wasn’t a Jewish plot, neither was slavery a Jewish institution, nor were the Jews a necessary or sufficient condition in brining it about.
Would it not be racist to point to some activity you don’t like and name all of the African-American, Mexican-Americans, or Asian-Americans you can find? Then to call it an African-American or Mexican-American endeavor? Or to find any individual engaging in an activity and find every other person of that same ethnic extraction and say that there is some connection. Why is it not so here? Would you be able to say off hand how many French-Americans were slaveholders? If not, why not? Do you think someone without an axe to grind is going to waste his time on a survey of the name origins of slave owners?
So, in addition to all of the clear misstatements you’ve made, and the conclusions that don’t seem to follow the evidence you provide, your argument is tainted from its inception. Any time you blame one group of people for an activity where individuals of many backgrounds participated, you are engaging in scapegoating. Any minority who has ever had the actions of one individual or a set of statistics with their context neutered thrown at them, would know what I’m talking about.
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Originally Posted by Babe
I am so sorry for this HORRIBLE error which has been highlighted in red and by my magic pointing finger, to show the correction.
You have my respect and love.
Babe,
xoxo
LOL we just had a history class LOL
Ok, Africans were not called "Black" it's a word made by Caucasians to classify and use as a status for identification. In law status is everything. Caucasians were not called white when they got here they were called Christians!
All that said an no one can tell us where the N word comes from directly? smh
FYI
Slavery in Africa was not like the Trans Atlantic Slave trade! There were different levels of it, if you committed a crime you worked it off. If you owe money you paid it off, if someone from your family inherited to you then you were a slave. Some slaves even could rise in the house hold of their oppressor.
On the wise, there were African people here in America before Columbus who were doing trade back and forth to Africa, hundreds of years before Columbus and he didn't discover nothing.
Through all the muck and non sense the filthy ugly word Ni***a came up and it's derogatory.
LOCKED.
Want to start a different post on racism/politics/history - take it into the politics forum.
Broncofan's corrections of some dumbass assertions should be read.