Re: The George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Travesty
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I don't know why people are pissed the Hispanic got off. The white guy wasn't on trial. The Hispanic got off with all white women the jury. What's the problem? If it was old white guys on the jury, then sure.
One thing the women may not have had much empathy for Black people. Someone told me of an interview with a juror, who said that she did not understand some of Martin's friend he was talking to on the phone, Rachel's language. There was a strategic effort to damage her credibility, before she even testified, then the defense badgered her enough to distract attention from her story in the court room. But her testimony was the only other first hand version. I think the fact that she told of Martin's "cracker" statement showed that she was willing to speak the truth. Apparently people don't understand how, Black teens talk to one another.
Martin had far less rights than Zimmerman. Martin had a toxology report, which was used against him, but Zimmerman didn't get one, the night of the death, and his drug history was excluded from court evidence, I believe, as were other historical things like his legal history. Martin's school history was used, but what was Zimmerman's school record? Was he ever suspended? Martin had no duty to retreat home, specifically because of "Stand your ground", yet this is much more often mentioned as a right of Zimmerman. Martin's phone records were used, but not Zimmerman's, outside of the 9-11 calls. I thought some expert said that voices had a 'unique print', yet evidence from experts hired by the prosecution were excluded. Whereas Zimmerman, did not have to be cross examined, the only counter-version, was subject of a five hour cross examination. So the only major way to point Zimmerman's inconsistencies, was in closing arguments. I not sure how much this was even laid out, by prosecution. It would have been my main focus, if I was.
Sympathy and empathy are related. I was told the the woman juror, who was interviewed said she felt sorry for Zimmerman. She didnt understand the prosecutions main wittness. My observer said that she did not sound very bright, although I think her husband is a lawyer.
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He was white until this incident; only then did he become "Hispanic". Chances are Zimmerman never checked "Other" on a form asking for his race or ethnonym.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic
Re: The George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Travesty
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natina
As I said in another thread, you are one confused self-loathing White man, natina. Does Zimmerman remind you of you? Is that really why you want him dead? How ironic would it have been for you to be one of the victims of that flash mob robbery attack right by you last night?
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at my home and in the neighborhood we have armed security response
well before the police even show up. there are a few celebritys that stay near me
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Finally, the conversation about race in America we need
African Americans have waited patiently for a president to speak the truth about the racism we experience. At last, we heard it:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...n-race-america
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here is a few more good ones
having black friends but still biased
playing the Friendship Card: White Lies, White Denial and the Reality of Racism...
I swear, if I hear one more transparently racist person insist they aren’t racist because they have black friends, I am going to shoot them. But not because I’m violent. I’m not violent. And this I know because I have friends who are pacifists.
Yes, this is a joke, but seriously, it’s getting just about that stupid, ....
http://www.timwise.org/2012/04/playi...ity-of-racism/
Tim Wise Responds to the "Some-of-my-best-friends-are black" Defense...
http://whitelikememovie.org
To help us make sense of the Zimmerman verdict and the conversations surrounding it, we looked to Tim Wise for some answers. Here he reacts to the assertions made by defenders of Zimmerman suggesting he couldn't possibly be influenced by race because he has black friends, dated an African American girl and mentored black children.
For more discussion of the Zimmerman verdict, check out MEF's blog: http://www.mediaed.org/blog/?p=2661
Tim Wise Responds to the "Some-of-my-best-friends-are black" Defense - YouTube
Piers Morgan destroys Robert Zimmerman 2013
Piers Morgan destroys Robert Zimmerman 2013 - YouTube
Trayvon Martin & Zimmerman Attorneys Trash Robert Zimmerman Racist Tweets. CNN - YouTube
this is important because george zimmerman made racist remarks at work against blacks,mexicans and arabs.
there is also some other evidence of zimmermans racial bias/bigotry
Tim Wise Responds to the "Some-of-my-best-friends-are black" Defense...
http://whitelikememovie.org
To help us make sense of the Zimmerman verdict and the conversations surrounding it, we looked to Tim Wise for some answers. Here he reacts to the assertions made by defenders of Zimmerman suggesting he couldn't possibly be influenced by race because he has black friends, dated an African American girl and mentored black children.
For more discussion of the Zimmerman verdict, check out MEF's blog: http://www.mediaed.org/blog/?p=2661
Tim Wise Responds to the "Some-of-my-best-friends-are black" Defense - YouTube
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...lly_white.html
White People Support Academic Meritocracy When It Benefits Them, Study Suggests
Do white people only support traditional definitions of meritocracy when it benefits them? A new study suggests so.
University of Miami professor Frank L. Samson looked at the idea of meritocracy through the lens of admissions standards in the University of California system. He found that white participants changed their ideas of what was meritocratic based on what benefitted white, as opposed to Asian-American, applicants.
After learning whites made up a majority of students at a school, half of the study's participants were asked to evaluate the importance of academic achievement when they were assessing university applicants. The participants related that universities should place high value on an applicant's standardized test scores and class rank.
Other study participants were told that Asian-Americans are disproportionately admitted to the school. These participants related that less weight should be placed on an applicant's academics.
The study concludes that, “the shift to an Asian American plurality provoked a reaction that caused white evaluators to create an altered standard when weighing the academic merits of college applicants.”
These results come at a time when affirmative action -- designed to further the opportunities of groups that have been historically discriminated against -- is being hotly debated. Some opponents of the practice argue that admissions should simply be based on concrete, meritocratic standards. However, as the study reveals, what is considered meritocratic to some may simply be based on what benefits the group with whom they most identify.
Minority groups are expected to become a majority of America's population by 2042, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. As the study notes, this demographic shift may force universities to learn how to guard “against pressures from the dominant group reacting to a perceived drop from their dominant group position.”
The study, "Altering Public University Admission Standards to Preserve White Group Position in the United States: Results from a Laboratory Experiment," was published in the Comparative Education Review.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ces&ref=topbar
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