Men on dating ts women

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Originally Posted by Maximus25

This is a peculiar yet intriguing topic for me. Except for inability to become pregnant, transgender women are really not that different from genetic women. Transitioning reminds of puberty, and every person has gone through an awkward stage.

I think some of the women and men in this board need to mellow out. Ladies, if I guy knows that you're trans, and is still willing to accept for the person you are then he needs to be applauded. I realize there are some guys who -incorrectly- view ts as being some realize sex doll. I mean objectifying someone based on physical attribute and denying their humanity is not cool no matter what the situation.

Simply put, approaching and dating a trans woman is NO different than a gg. Guys need to be mindful to treat with respect and dignity. If you think she is gorgeous, please let her know. It's surprising how many beautiful women are insecure.

Finally, there are some women in the media whether news or entertainment who are trans. They are stealth and it is really difficult to ascertain. Personally, I think it's awesome and progressives. Just remember the straight girl - milf porn?! -l who you're beating off to her name may have been Walter.

Peace and blessings!

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Thank you for that! Hopefully now you words will have some impacts on these cock crazed lunatics, who's only true education of the ts women is a site called shemaleyum.com....

Hey little boys, take a few notes.

I've never "dated' a TS woman. Probably like a lot of men I stumbled onto the 3rd sex by accident. I was 16 at a club and saw the most beautiful girl in the room making eyes at me. When I asked one of my friends who she was he told me I had it all wrong - she wasn't 'really a girl'. And no he wasn't a cock blocker. Well I was stunned........and intrigued. I was conflicted - how could I be attracted to a woman that wasn't physically born a woman!?

In any event it created a change in my thinking and to such an extent I would piss off a lot of GGs by my stating that femininity was a learned trait and had nothing to do with the physical form! I took a lot of shit for that.......but recently I found this http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/codes-gender/ so it looks like the eggheads have come to the same conclusion.

Anyways I've never dated a TS woman (although I've had cheap dirty sex with a few) because I've never run into any at the places I go. I refuse to troll gay or tranny bars nor am I looking specifically for a TS woman. If I meet one in my travels through life then so be it, if I don't it's no big deal.

If I did date a TS woman, she'd just be another woman I dated.............

Quoting Evon

"I think filtering out men and wanting the best intentions, is a healthy way to build a foundation in a relationship. In reality ts or gg just don't want to be objectified in that sense..."

That quote goes both ways. We men {unfortunately "men" refers to a very scarce few (males) on this board} filter also. It's just as hard for us as it is for you to filter out the bad from the good.

Guys generally think that every TS is out for one thing $$$ and could careless about our true intentions. So we initially label a girl right away. Is that wrong - YES!

Just as for most of the ladies, filtering out the bad from the good. Because 95% (if not a higher) of the guys are cock hounds and don't care for nor respect the ladies for their feelings, intelligence, or for who they are WOMEN. So they label us right away is that wrong - YES (but most of the time they are right)

Somewhere along the many pages of bickering the subject of this thread was lost "Men on dating TS WOMEN"

Well the filtering SHOULD START at the introduction, and NOT before hand by labeling one another as "ESCORT", "CHASER", "GOLD DIGGER", "COCK HOUND", etc.....all that does is starts you off on a negative foot. The filtering should start once you meet the person, and get a feeling for their true intentions. If you hit it off initially then go on a normal date. If it's a good date then repeat (not rocket science). If the date sucks then don't go out again.

Guys, if you want to actually DATE (not by the hour) a TS then don't objectify them or treat them as sexual fetish. Use your friggin head (the one that's located 2 feet above your ass, and not the little one between your legs) THEY ARE WOMEN, and if you can't fathom that then you are NOT ready to date a TS (NOT EVEN CLOSE, and you need not read any further. Get a life and go read another thread)

Ladies, not every one of us guys are chaser's or any of the other colorful {colourful for our readers over seas....lol} expletives that have been thrown around. Some of us actually want LTR's with TS's or GG's for that matter. Unfortunately for the ones of us that want them we get thrown into the pot with the chasers because they hit on every single girl in site all the time (over and over again) and that makes us guilty by association. Dating is trial and error. If we date one TS, and it doesn't work, and then if we ask another out BAM! We're tagged as a chaser regardless of our intentions. How else can we have or achieve a LTR if we don't date? As Kelly said she has X-BF's and now she is in a happy long term relationship because she found someone she loves for who he is and what he likes, and he is happy for the same reasons. They both have EX's, and I'm sure when they met the didn't prejudge or label the other, and if they did then the sucked it up and took a chance and it's worked.

This goes for everybody: EVERYTHING IN LIFE WORTH HAVING INVOLVES RISK - plain and simple. I took that risk almost 4 years ago with my EX, and I'm glad I did she is a wonderful girl (yes a TS), but unfortunately it didn't work out. We are still friends, and I'm grateful for that because it always doesn't end that way, but if you prejudge and label each other you will never find true happiness with another person regardless if they are GAY, STRAIGHT, BI, etc...(Which are labels too).

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Originally Posted by yogi2002

Quoting Evon

"I think filtering out men and wanting the best intentions, is a healthy way to build a foundation in a relationship. In reality ts or gg just don't want to be objectified in that sense..."

That quote goes both ways. We men {unfortunately "men" refers to a very scarce few (males) on this board} filter also. It's just as hard for us as it is for you to filter out the bad from the good.

Guys generally think that every TS is out for one thing $$$ and could careless about our true intentions. So we initially label a girl right away. Is that wrong - YES!

Just as for most of the ladies, filtering out the bad from the good. Because 95% (if not a higher) of the guys are cock hounds and don't care for nor respect the ladies for their feelings, intelligence, or for who they are WOMEN. So they label us right away is that wrong - YES (but most of the time they are right)

Somewhere along the many pages of bickering the subject of this thread was lost "Men on dating TS WOMEN"

Well the filtering SHOULD START at the introduction, and NOT before hand by labeling one another as "ESCORT", "CHASER", "GOLD DIGGER", "COCK HOUND", etc.....all that does is starts you off on a negative foot. The filtering should start once you meet the person, and get a feeling for their true intentions. If you hit it off initially then go on a normal date. If it's a good date then repeat (not rocket science). If the date sucks then don't go out again.

Guys, if you want to actually DATE (not by the hour) a TS then don't objectify them or treat them as sexual fetish. Use your friggin head (the one that's located 2 feet above your ass, and not the little one between your legs) THEY ARE WOMEN, and if you can't fathom that then you are NOT ready to date a TS (NOT EVEN CLOSE, and you need not read any further. Get a life and go read another thread)

Ladies, not every one of us guys are chaser's or any of the other colorful {colourful for our readers over seas....lol} expletives that have been thrown around. Some of us actually want LTR's with TS's or GG's for that matter. Unfortunately for the ones of us that want them we get thrown into the pot with the chasers because they hit on every single girl in site all the time (over and over again) and that makes us guilty by association. Dating is trial and error. If we date one TS, and it doesn't work, and then if we ask another out BAM! We're tagged as a chaser regardless of our intentions. How else can we have or achieve a LTR if we don't date? As Kelly said she has X-BF's and now she is in a happy long term relationship because she found someone she loves for who he is and what he likes, and he is happy for the same reasons. They both have EX's, and I'm sure when they met the didn't prejudge or label the other, and if they did then the sucked it up and took a chance and it's worked.

This goes for everybody: EVERYTHING IN LIFE WORTH HAVING INVOLVES RISK - plain and simple. I took that risk almost 4 years ago with my EX, and I'm glad I did she is a wonderful girl (yes a TS), but unfortunately it didn't work out. We are still friends, and I'm grateful for that because it always doesn't end that way, but if you prejudge and label each other you will never find true happiness with another person regardless if they are GAY, STRAIGHT, BI, etc...(Which are labels too).

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Too much analysis bro............women will pre-judge a man base don his friends, acquaintances, what her girlfriends tell her, etc, etc......but guess what? if the man is a man in the first place it doesn't matter if he is pre-judged. In fact his reputation - good or bad - should precede him. So if he's a 'good' man that will be the word...if he's a douchebag who drops to his knees and gurgles every chance he gets then that'll be held against him.....as it should be.

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Originally Posted by inSD

My theory is that many couldn't attract straighter men as a non-tranny so they had to get boobs and dress and act female to get men to notice them, which breeds the resentment towards men especially the ones who are into it. A lot of these people hate themselves too much to have a real relationship so they sell that asspussy for an ez buck and bitch about it.

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And theories like that are what make you the retarded nobody that you are.

No yogi is right...

I am mature enough to give men the benefit of the doubt or a chance...

I recently dated a guy in Miami who I felt was a chaser, but I gave him the benefit until I started seeing the signs..

He never had time to take me out

Only time he had was to see me in my place for sex.

And when we did he would leave as oppose to staying with me for the night or courting.

This was very unhealthy and I don't like men like that.

I am too good, to be handled so carelessly, and I deserve better, he used me and he lied to me...

Straight men don't treat me this way, they take me out for dinner, or wine, or movies... But I never feel comfortable with a chaser..

But regardless we risk it giving a guy a chance, and it's the guys chance to prove himself worthy. If not we are the only ones who get hurt by it. So we have to protect that.

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Originally Posted by runningdownthatdream

Too much analysis bro............women will pre-judge a man base don his friends, acquaintances, what her girlfriends tell her, etc, etc......but guess what? if the man is a man in the first place it doesn't matter if he is pre-judged. In fact his reputation - good or bad - should precede him. So if he's a 'good' man that will be the word...if he's a douchebag who drops to his knees and gurgles every chance he gets then that'll be held against him.....as it should be.

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I agree with you to a point about being prejudged on the basis of friends, acquaintances and her girl friends etc..., but a good man in this community gets labeled regardless of how good his reputation is. Until you are actually part of this community, and support it you will not know. So stick to your cheap dirty sex, and No it's not too much analysis. Experience is all it is plain simple fact.

I'd prefer neither - I'd prefer a gay man hands down.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

No yogi is right...

But regardless we risk it giving a guy a chance, and it's the guys chance to prove himself worthy. If not we are the only ones who get hurt by it. So we have to protect that.

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I agree with you Evon, it is up to us to prove our intentions and our worth as a suitor. As it is for the lady to prove herself as well. That's what dating is about. You found out the guy in Miami was a chaser, and you ghosted his ass. Good for you. Just as I have dated girls in the past that on the 2nd date were "buy me this, buy me that"

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

I'd prefer neither - I'd prefer a gay man hands down.

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If a gay is attracted to you then your not a woman...

Gay is homosexual, the attraction to the same gender... By gender your a female... So that doesn't make sense...

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

If a gay is attracted to you then your not a woman...

Gay is homosexual, the attraction to the same gender... By gender your a female... So that doesn't make sense...

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My SEX is male my gender is female. I prefer the company of gay men, and I've known several who were attracted to me. Our mutual attraction doesn't determine my gender. No truly STRAIGHT man is attracted to transsexuals, sorry but to think that is completely delusional.

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

My SEX is male my gender is female. I prefer the company of gay men, and I've known several who were attracted to me. Our mutual attraction doesn't determine my gender. No truly STRAIGHT man is attracted to transsexuals, sorry but to think that is completely delusional.

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For a manic racist,that's a great point

Real talk Evon, I can really appreciate and respect what u bring to the table. U speak ur mind and put your opinion out there. You speak your mind on how you feel. With you it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

My SEX is male my gender is female. I prefer the company of gay men, and I've known several who were attracted to me. Our mutual attraction doesn't determine my gender. No truly STRAIGHT man is attracted to transsexuals, sorry but to think that is completely delusional.

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Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

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Unless he is bottoming though right? If he takes it up the ass there is no way he can be hetero

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

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Professionals can say the sky is green does that make it true? Professionals also used to think the Earth was flat. Professionals thought the Earth was the center of the universe. Professionals used to teach people that smoking was good for you etc etc etc... I go by real life experience, things I can see, hear and feel, not what some over educated twit with a piece of paper that says their a "professional". I've been transitioning since I was 13, and I've not met one "straight" man who was attracted to me or girls like me. You live in a fantasyland darlin', men lie all the time about all kinds of things. You don't seem like the type who's difficult to fool, so these men run all over you telling you all kinds of nonsense and you take it as truth because it suits your ego.. but I'm not buying it.

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Originally Posted by doctor screw

For a manic racist,that's a great point

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You're an idiot.

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

Unless he is bottoming though right? If he takes it up the ass there is no way he can be hetero

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No not at all... Sexual kinks don't determine sexual preference...

Many straight men who don't like men still love anal play...

Many straight men are also submissive.

Although prefer top, dominant men...

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

You're an idiot.

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Yeahhhhhhh....I'm the idiot

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

Professionals can say the sky is green does that make it true? Professionals also used to think the Earth was flat. Professionals thought the Earth was the center of the universe. Professionals used to teach people that smoking was good for you etc etc etc... I go by real life experience, things I can see, hear and feel, not what some over educated twit with a piece of paper that says their a "professional". I've been transitioning since I was 13, and I've not met one "straight" man who was attracted to me or girls like me. You live in a fantasyland darlin', men lie all the time about all kinds of things. You don't seem like the type who's difficult to fool, so these men run all over you telling you all kinds of nonsense and you take it as truth because it suits your ego.. but I'm not buying it.

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Professionals have studied this for years with scientific explanation and proof...

It would be dumb for scientist to say the earth is round with proof and you still think it's flat...

You need to educate yourself because what your experience is not the truth at all...

That's like saying I'm a drug addict and I was raised really bad so I know for a fact every family lives this way, theres your world and then theres the real world...

You refuse to hear the study and the truth because your afraid your a gay man who likes the kink of being in women's clothes... Gay men like men... So if a gay man likes you then your a gay man...

Sorry but that's the truth...

You know, there are real straight men (who's never been much less even entertained thoughts of being with another man or tranny) that falls (and I mean falls hard) for a tranny!
Miracles do happen. ;) Now what you guys do behind closed doors is your business. Whether he tries to give you oral or takes it from behind is between the two of you. You somehow need to work around what you have between your legs eh? lol But that does not make him "instantly" gay imo! ;)

If you take a dick in the ass,you're bi at the very least.If you take a object shaped like a dick,you're bi-curious with gay traits.

A lot of dudes on this site are searching for sexual validation from trannys/chasers.

Be happy with yourself first,and more than likely you're gay....just saying

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

Unless he is bottoming though right? If he takes it up the ass there is no way he can be hetero

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That's sodomy. Homosexuality, as a social identity, was a concept that only originated about 150 years ago. It actually didn't exist until the 19th century. Research what I'm telling you. It's true.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Professionals have studied this for years with scientific explanation and proof...

It would be dumb for scientist to say the earth is round with proof and you still think it's flat...

You need to educate yourself because what your experience is not the truth at all...

That's like saying I'm a drug addict and I was raised really bad so I know for a fact every family lives this way, theres your world and then theres the real world...

You refuse to hear the study and the truth because your afraid your a gay man who likes the kink of being in women's clothes... Gay men like men... So if a gay man likes you then your a gay man...

Sorry but that's the truth...

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I'm a gay man now because I enjoy the company of gay men? Bitch you're way off base. If anyone's a gay man here it's you. An open bottom who transitioned to get fucked in the ass because you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman.. haha. You're the biggest moron on this board. I know plenty of gay men who think just like you do. "OOOH if I transition I'll get straight guys to fuck me TEHEHE!!" You're delusional, and an idiot.

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

I'm a gay man now because I enjoy the company of gay men? Bitch you're way off base. If anyone's a gay man here it's you. An open bottom who transitioned to get fucked in the ass because you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman.. haha. You're the biggest moron on this board. I know plenty of gay men who think just like you do. "OOOH if I transition I'll get straight guys to fuck me TEHEHE!!" You're delusional, and an idiot.

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I never said you were gay, I said if a gay man was attracted to you (impossible) then you have to be a gay man yourself...

It is scientifically impossible for a gay man to like women, or the female form.

I transitioned to become a full woman, why would a man need me to be happy?

Good job being defensive by the way, maybe too many people call you gay but I understand it's okay honey you will look like a woman one day.

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

That's sodomy. Homosexuality, as a social identity, was a concept that only originated about 150 years ago. It actually didn't exist until the 19th century. Research what I'm telling you. It's true.

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Trust me I agree..that's why I say you can't be hetero/straight whatever if you takin it up the ass. I'm not knockin (at least not on this board because there are so many) dudes that do it but don't sit here and try to rationalize it by continuously asking does it make you gay...YES it does..lol

Anal sex is something gay men do, but anal sex is not what defines a man being attracted to a man. Gay men love anal sex, but so what?

I love getting my dick sucked. If I close my eyes, does it matter who does it? If you have anal sex, and both partners have blindfolds on, does it matter who does it? To me it does. I don't want any chick fucking me in the ass or sucking my dick. I don't want to fuck a chick in the ass or anywhere else. Women are my sisters and I don't do incest. That's for secondary transsexuals and hetero crossdressers on birth control. Fuck that sissy shit. I want a MAN in my bed, even if I fuck his ass.

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

Trust me I agree..that's why I say you can't be hetero/straight whatever if you takin it up the ass. I'm not knockin (at least not on this board because there are so many) dudes that do it but don't sit here and try to rationalize it by continuously asking does it make you gay...YES it does..lol

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Well I have a friend who is a guy and he loves his gf playing with his ass... But he doesn't like men, or cocks...

It's the same thing for ts..

If a ts likes to top does that mean she's not really a ts but a gay man in disguise?

Some think real ts only bottom and get a sex change, but i don't think this is always true.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

I never said you were gay, I said if a gay man was attracted to you (impossible) then you have to be a gay man yourself...

It is scientifically impossible for a gay man to like women, or the female form.

I transitioned to become a full woman, why would a man need me to be happy?

Good job being defensive by the way, maybe too many people call you gay but I understand it's okay honey you will look like a woman one day.

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Men like all kinds of things sexually, who died and left you the expert on what they would never like?

So sit the fuck down you gook, and don't call me honey.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Nope it's wrong...

A man who is into transexual are still classified Heterosexual, Now unless you want to go against human sexuality and science studies...

It is possible for them to be bisexual yes... But studies indicate majority are hetero.

Go buy a human sexuality textbook. They thought this in San Francisco state to my auntie who is a doctor...

they teach this in stanford university As well... So you want to argue the professionals?

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thats utter hogwash
human sexuality is far more complicated than something that can be pigeonholed into 3 distinct categories and that is an actual scientific fact
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

claiming something is scientific fact and that its taught wherever doesnt make it so
especially if actual science says the complete opposite

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well I have a friend who is a guy and he loves his gf playing with his ass... But he doesn't like men, or cocks...

It's the same thing for ts..

If a ts likes to top does that mean she's not really a ts but a gay man in disguise?

Some think real ts only bottom and get a sex change, but i don't think this is always true.

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That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

Men like all kinds of things sexually, who died and left you the expert on what they would never like?

So sit the fuck down you gook, and don't call me honey.

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Alright Sweetie!

Being man is a gender

Within genders theres an umbrella of sexuality, preference, and other things that make that certain man an individual...

Homosexual men like men...

Bitch you look more asian than me, so who you calling a gook?

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it

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Okay so the girl isn't really straight because she likes to use her strap on?

That theory is a little biased don't you think?

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Alright Sweetie!

Being man is a gender

Within genders theres an umbrella of sexuality, preference, and other things that make that certain man an individual...

Homosexual men like men...

Bitch you look more asian than me, so who you calling a gook?

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I'm Polish and Lithuanian. Thats whats known as "makeup".

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Originally Posted by muh_muh

thats utter hogwash
human sexuality is far more complicated than something that can be pigeonholed into 3 distinct categories and that is an actual scientific fact
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

claiming something is scientific fact and that its taught wherever doesnt make it so
especially if actual science says the complete opposite

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THANK YOU!!!!!!! :Bowdown: You can easily come to this conclusion, because I'm guessing your fragile identity doesn't require believing the men who fuck you to be "heterosexual", like hers does.

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Originally Posted by muh_muh

thats utter hogwash
human sexuality is far more complicated than something that can be pigeonholed into 3 distinct categories and that is an actual scientific fact
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

claiming something is scientific fact and that its taught wherever doesnt make it so
especially if actual science says the complete opposite

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A hetero predominant is bisexual....

I think that before people start going on about the different terms for it I think they need to educate themselves on sexual terms...

There are many exclusive hetero who only like gg and sometimes ts...
An exclusive Homosexual man like sonly men...

Anything in between identifies Bi, curious, or asexualism as in pan, or asex...

So everything in that wiki states what I am saying.

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

That's what he tells you..lol..or maybe he might just be down for a ts and not a dude. But again..if a dick or anything resembling it is going up his ass..he is GAY no if ands or butts about it

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That's retarded. Women love getting fucked in the ass too. My best friend is a GG and she gets her ass fucked by a gorg man with a hot swimmers build bod every night. She's gay? Please. Anal pleasure is not sexual attraction. Neither is oral pleasure.

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Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii

I'm Polish and Lithuanian. Thats whats known as "makeup".

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Eh your nose is too wide and big... Are you sure your not mongolian?

I look more european than you do so stop lying....

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

A hetero predominant is bisexual....

I think that before people start going on about the different terms for it I think they need to educate themselves on sexual terms...

There are many exclusive hetero who only like gg and sometimes ts...
An exclusive Homosexual man like sonly men...

Anything in between identifies Bi, curious, or asexualism as in pan, or asex...

So everything in that wiki states what I am saying.

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Don't waste your breath. Let them all think they're gay. It's actually funnier that way. lol

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Don't waste your breath. Let them all think they're gay. It's actually funnier that way. lol

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This is why labels are important, girl... Gay men want to be straight... I really don't want to date a bi or gay man... sorry.