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Yeah, but I LIKE ZZ Top. They're actually pretty good. :-)
ZZ Top - Got Me Under Pressure - YouTube
But OMK is a closet fag, and I can't stand republican closet fags. :-P
Eliminator was one of the best albums ever
Wow....
still a racist
So not being attracted to blacks make one a racist?
ya'll brothas have fragile egos
no you too bookoo
To booku, to booku, No Alabama black snake!
Damn it!! I didnt read the latest post and just went right for the FMJ joke but ya beat me too it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by AmyDaly
You can't be that STUPID and racist! so because you had a few bad experiences with black men that SOMEHOW equates to ALL black men?!! so using that logic if the next few WHITE guys do something you don't like you'll STOP dealing with ALL WHITE men??? you need to join the republican party!! OH! they wouldn't accept you because you're not STRAIGHT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie French
Agreed, jaime is an idiot for that post...that being said, it's not inherently racist to not want black guys, it could just be preference...I don't do white girls, prefer latin/asian.
You wouldn't do a white girl even if she paid you? I prefer Stella Atois, but I'll drink a Bud if that's what's on tap. :)
That's a good brew right there, kid. Those Belgians know what they're doing. I describe that lager as refreshing like biting into a cold apple.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
I guess I would, but prefer not too...bud I won't drink at all, rather have water.Quote:
Originally Posted by trish
Soda or water for me. Budweiser is terrible. More like the Jefe of Beers when you see who actually enjoys it.Quote:
Originally Posted by nysprod
She isn't stupid. She's honest. Racist is a matter of opinion so there is no use even arguing about it. She did not say ALL black men. She's saying, Black men, in general, tend to be less desirable customers. Hence it's easier to exclude them completely. The same logic can't be applied to White customers. White customers probably make up, at a minimum, 65% of the market. What percentage of the market do Black customers comprise? Maybe 5%? You do the math.Quote:
Originally Posted by knight4444
Escorts who screen clients (require references) are less likely to discriminate based on race, but those who don't, including TS escorts, frequently do because it is common knowledge some groups are more likely to be trouble than others. It isn't fair. It is what it is.
So you prefer Stella and abhor Bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by nysprod
"Oh i'm not racist..i've got black friends".... says every racist and bigot ever.
The broad is a hooker, she should be glad there are dudes that would waste
money to bed the skank. Like it or not....Just keeping it 100...No B.S.
It sucks because Miriam was one of the TGirls that got me into Transwomen.
I loved fapping to her booty pics. But, now knowing that she's a bigot...it kills it for me.
Many TS escorts opposed to Black clients would probably be more receptive if those same Black guys paid cash upfront, but we all know that ain't happening!!Lol
That said if I knew the girl and what kind of service she typically provided it wouldn't bother me to pay before my session. In general though, no.
Doesn't everyone pay up front? If the girl charges, pay her. I think it's rude and disrespectful to make a gal worry if she's receiving the donation both parties agreed to. I think I get decent treatment from escorts because I'm nice to them and know the drill, not because I'm White.Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
what kind of references are required to see an escort, a past criminal history and list of past escorts one visited?Quote:
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt
well, i actually never pay up front because how much i will pay depends on the service. it is not that i feel i must "tip" but i will reward a girl that makes me think it is a gfe whereas boring lays are only getting their rate.
that said...if a black guy rolled up and paid first...i doubt every escort would turn him down.
anyone ever see the movie "easy a?" could you imagine paying for a date with a gift card? my wife has a $100 off gift card to escada...i wonder what that can get me?
References from other escorts. Most respectable escorts (yes, there are some) won't see you without references. Sometimes two or three are necessary. Most of these women have personal websites and don't advertise on back page.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesoul
The TS side of the business is not as advanced and functions more like the back page GG escort market. Most TS escorts don't screen (in so far as I have experienced). And, to my knowledge, there is no network of TS escorts who refer one another.
I've also never heard of TS escorts asking for, or accepting GG references, or vice versa. Many customers would prefer that GG escorts not know that they see TS escorts, since it may result in their being denied an appointment.
I've always paid up front. In my experience, it is the rule. And payment is never discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino Velvet
What- are you going to return the blowjob instead of paying if you're not completely satisfied? Maybe offer her your ass in trade to make it an even swap?Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
Its funny to me that tgirl escorts are discriminating against clients due to race when escorts are discriminated against and tgirls are discriminated against...Quote:
Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel
Open your eyes.
The solution is a simple one. TS Escorts should have a cash upfront policy. Not tar a whole race with one brush. And if you really want to look into the black sterotypes it goes beyond thievery. There is also the fact that most of the black race are extremely homophobic. Try to trick a homophobic black person into sleeping with a ts and it most likely won't end well. But since you are so blinded all you see are black chasers and the projected image of big black cock that want nothing more than to fuck a white girl or trans lol.
There are two sides to every coin.
i think 'some' may have already formed their generalization and mindsetQuote:
Originally Posted by Dino Velvet
because you're white.
i just wonder if the black men who do show respect and professionalism
to these escorts get their due.
i've never heard of TS's asking for references, but i heard (and had theQuote:
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt
personal experiences) of a few escorts asking potential clients to
send/text them a pic of themselves. ...Good luck on that and discretion.
I always get payment up front. It's never been an issue, except for the maybe 2% of guys who bail (either because they chicken out, or they never really had any money).Quote:
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt
I have no problem with seeing black guys, I have a couple regulars who are black that I like a lot. I don't put up with any sort of thug attitude when people call or text me, though, those guys get ignored. And maybe more of those guys tend to be black, but that is what it is. But anyone who contacts me respectfully and is serious about setting up an appointment is cool, no matter what race.
Yeah, I don't usually screen too much, as long as I am doing incall out of a decent hotel with a real lobby where the guy has to walk by the front desk/security cameras/etc. And I have to get the vibe from the guy that he is serious about the appointment and not just screwing around, he has to call from the parking lot, etc. I have my own place too but I only see regulars at my own place. The only time I really screen is on an outcall, I need to make sure it's not a wild goose chase.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt
LOL, yeah. I've heard of that even with GG's. Just move on to the next girl, especially since the type who would ask for that often isn't even the same one as in her pics. I imagine references are tough for TS's, since there are so few reliable, reputable, TS escorts in most of the country. How many potential customers really have useful references from someone trustworthy? If the TS market expands and gets more organized, I could see that practice catching on with at least the higher profile ladies.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantybulge69
i think it's about the demeanor of a client. People should be
defined by their actions, not a prejudice judgment based upon their
racial ethnicity and what they look like. If a client approaches you professionally and like a gentleman, then he's earned an opportunity for a session, ...if he acts just the opposite with a ghetto mentality, then that's where his actions should get him turned away.
that's why i think any and every client should be addressed on a case by case basis rather than being group together and generalized.
Ditto for escorts with the ones who scam, fake pics,bait-switch,hidden robbery, etc. Just because a client happens to go thru several of them, doesn't mean it holds true for every escort.
there's a number of black clients who conduct themselves
properly and professionally but somehow get caught up in the rage and
heatwave of those who choose not conduct themselves.. So i guess it's easy for some to hateful and be destructive rather than keep their mind open and try to be constructive.
Scanning through "TS4M Casual Encounters" on Craig's I have seen this go both ways.
Lots of posts state either a preference or a requirement for their suiters to be Black (and usually Hung). "Seeking BBC" is a common entry.
I just saw yesterday a really stunning Black TG provider on Back Page in LA including "No Black Men" in her post.
I have asked several providers both TG and GG about this discrimination and the answer was always the same. They thought Black men were more likely to be violent.
how do you get the reference? do you go see the escort and ask them to sign for you a reference? also, i'm guessing you gotta get references from other "most respectable escorts" in order for the reference to be trustworthy- or can it be a reference from any escort?Quote:
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt
also, can you get escorts from members of a different gender? like can i use a gg reference with a ts escort? or vice versa?
as far as the topic of this thread: "pls no black guys" bullshit ho. aren't there some escorts who specifically prefer black men? is that also considered racist?
so omarZ wanna bitch about girls personal choices but don't got shit to say when someone makes a thread called HUNG T GIRL BLACKS ONLY........ watch me make a white only thread as soon as I got the time
I've been trying to gain acceptance of TS escorts in Seattle comparable to GG escorts. It's a long journey but there is a lot of progress. Seattle GG provider scene is very much reference based. Yes two references from providers that have seen the guy. A usual response is "yes, I know him and find him safe" or similar. If the one giving the ref is reputable, all the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiltthestilt
A few of the high end TS providers do get references, usually they have made arrangements for a GG provider friend to check for them. Others check out posts made by the guy on boards. It is very, very true that guys are AFRAID of being identified as seeing TS escorts - fear of appointment denial, being called Gay by other hobbyists, etc. I do think it is overblown, I still see GG providers and the ones I like would love to do a MFT session.
Conversely, reviews of TS providers happen less often compared to a GG. The guy doesn't want to be known.
The OP's point. It is not racist but very valid for a provider to exclude a type of person to be intimate with. It could be Old guys, young guys, blacks, asians, whites, Latin, redhead, tall, short. A good friend of mine is an Asian GG escort - she prefers to not see Chinese. It is important for the provider to use some tact to prevent hurt feelings.
At the same time the provider is reducing her customer base by excluding - not just by the excluded class but others that do not like exclusions. I for one are less likely to see a provider if she excludes - even if I am not.
its a free country anyone can work with who they want. I remember when Danny Glover was whining a few years back about cabs not picking up him because of race. No its beacause new York cabbies know who tips and who doesn't. end of story ask anyone who works in a bar about tipping stereotypes and youll find they hold true
it may be a stereo type but that doesn't mean its not true. anyone who is self employed in whatever industry has the right to work with who they feel comfortable. ask people with mid eastern decent about profiling in airports. no biggie lighten up!
Till you walked in another's shoes, assumption will lead you down the wrong path."
No. They don’t know who tips and who doesn’t. They don’t know whether Danny tips or not. They ASSUMED from his race that he doesn’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohioguy13
I know what you’re saying. You want to say that cabbies have experience and their experience is that the odds for a person of this race tipping you are better than the odds of a person of that race tipping you. They’re just playing the odds.
The trouble with that is threefold. One, it’s an assumption about cabbies and what they think. Two, it assumes there really is a correlation between race and tips, independent of dress and other easily identifiable characteristics quickly discoverable from the cab about a prospective client standing on the curb with his or her hand up. If there is show me the data. Three, using race to determine who you will or will not do business with is racist.
Yes ask them. It’s a biggie. But it’s not as big as denial of service on the basis of race. For an airline, that would be illegal.Quote:
ask people with mid eastern decent about profiling in airports.