OBAMA THE 44th U.S. PRESIDENT

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Originally Posted by MrShow52

you miss the point, yes he's black, that's great, but he's still gonna suck as president. Win for black, loss for americans.

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Mr show, I dont have time to read all of your negative bullshit. I'll just say this. If you're soooo unhappy with Obama GET THE FUCK OUTTA THE COUNTRY DAMMITT!!!!!!!!!

I am so proud. Just so so so proud..............

I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.

Every Alaskan gets a cut of an oil company's profits, if that company is drawing oil from Alaska. This year each Alaskan got a check for over three grand. The receivers of those checks did nothing for that money, but turn a blind eye to the exploitation of their own state. That's redistribution.

I'm amazed at how naive all the libertarian ideologues on this board really are. (Though that last comment is irrelevant to my point, I threw it in to be as obnoxious as the libertarian ideologues are).

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Originally Posted by strokeitnow

I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.

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Oh so you make more than 250K a year? Oh and he's not redistributing wealth he's simply bringing back the tax cuts that existed during the Clinton era. The fact that you've managed to spell his name incorrectly at every single instance leads me to believe that your post as well as you yourself are a joke. None of us know whether or not he will be a good president so just sit tight, wait and see and in the meantime hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by doctranny07

He is not even in office yet and everyone is jumping for joy! Wait until January and let's see what a total mess he and the rest of the liberal leftist make of this country. Everyone will be truly disappointed when they don't get their mortgage, Gas, and the rest of their bills paid. And you can forget about health insurance. Everyone thinks health insurance is going to be FREE. Sorely mistaken. Blue Cross Blue Sheild federal employee program insurance, the one Osama promised everyone will have, costs about $1500 month for a family of of 4. Who is going to pay for it, You guessed it you. God help us!

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Hey babe, in case you have not noticed people are NOW in a strugle to pay their mortage, gas, and bills- they don't have to wait to January to do thart. They can thank 8 years of Republican rule, incredible amounts of spending and failed policies greatly for that.

The only conservative aspect of the Republican party TODAY is social policy- the modern Republican conservative party IS NOT the party of Barry Goldwater. They have expanded the goverment and spent like crazy which is agasint the fundementals of the original conservative movement. What exactly is conservative about THAT?

No matter how many of 'you' call him 'Osama', a muslim, said racist remarks, pounded to death 'associations', called him a socialist, and communist- your hate rhetoric and tactics to divert the REAL issues facing this country did NOT convince the American people.

You lost by a near land slide and got your ass kicked!

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We all are americans allanah, and we all lost last night.

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Speak for yourself please and not I.
We are ALL Americans yes, and the MAJORITY of Americans and STATES have spoken. That means WE WON.

How old are you and are you white?

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lol gtfo w/your racism allanah fucking hypocrite.

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I guess since you can't offer a valid argument you have to result to
name callaing and insults.

Then again this is the sort of desperation republicans have been forced to do through this whole election.

I am not a racist-never have been-never will be.

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Name calling an insults? what are we even arguing about allanah? Obama won, and I said "hey that sucks for americans" and you disagree with me. You're the one who took it there by asking "how old I was and was I white" because obviously, anyone who doesn't fawn over obama must be an old white man right?

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I asked a simple question.
You chose not to answer it, that's fine.
I never called anyone a racist.

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Ok Allanah, I am 29 of Indian descent, born and raised in America. No you didn't call anyone a racist but I did call you one, because you are, just face it.

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Please dont make me go off on the graft and corruption in India.
India is the epitome' of "you watch my back Ill watch yours".

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Yes but Im not bragging about it like you and ACTUALLY Im not from Africa.

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Originally Posted by tsntx

mr show makes a valid point

but lets move on


put this topic in politics already

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You would say that coming from the most ignorant state in the union.

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Originally Posted by doctranny07

The wall street brokers starting packaging these sub prime mortgages beacause everyone and their mother was getting the sub prime mortgages. Once again a Clinton doing, he also deregulated the rules governing these securities. The reason that these companies like AIG, Bear Stearns etc.. went out of business is because people were able to buy insurance against these sub prime mortagages because they knew they would fail and people could not pay them back. When the people started to foreclose on their mortagages these companies did not have the money to pay the people who bought the insurance. So get your facts straight before you make any statements.

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Just a quick fact check. Clinton signed the bill that deregulated the securites in December of 2000, right at the end of his term. It has passsed the Senate by something like 92-8 and thus they could have over-ridden a veto anyway. It also passed the House with a large veto over-rding majority. An article I read put the responsibilty for that part of the bill directly on Republican Phil Graham. At one time he was McCains chief financial advisor, but quit in the summertime. His remark that "America has become a nation of whiners", was widely circulated before he left the McCain campaign. Obama quoted that directly in his speech when he accepted the party presidential nomination in Denver.

But anyway the article said that Graham place the deregulation bill at the end of an 1,100 page appropriations bill, and that it was close to the holidays and representitives did not have time to examine the bill closely.

Deregulation of financial markets has been part of the Republican philosophy for a long time, as well as others like Alan Greenspan. So to put the responsibility on Clinton is misleading.

Here is the source article: http://artvoice.com/issues/v7n40/crude

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Here is my proof from Wiki.
None other than ALAN GREENSPAN agrees with me on the cause of this mess.
Enjoy.



The traditional mortgage model involved a bank originating a loan to the borrower/homeowner and retaining credit (default) risk. With the advent of securitization, the traditional model has given way to the "originate to distribute" model, in which the credit risk is transferred (distributed) to investors through MBS. The securitized share of subprime mortgages (i.e., those passed to third-party investors via MBS) increased from 54% in 2001, to 75% in 2006.[51] Securitization accelerated in the mid-1990s. The total amount of mortgage-backed securities issued almost tripled between 1996 and 2007, to $7.3 trillion. The debt associated with the origination of such securities was sometimes placed by major banks into off-balance sheet entities called structured investment vehicles or special purpose entities. Moving the debt "off the books" enabled large financial institutions to circumvent capital reserve requirements, thereby assuming additional risk and increasing profits during the boom period. Such off-balance sheet financing is sometimes referred to as the shadow banking system and is thinly regulated.

Alan Greenspan stated that the securitization of home loans for people with poor credit — not the loans themselves — was to blame for the current global credit crisis.

Forgive my ignorance of the American political system, but what now happens to McCain and Palin?

Does McCain go back to being a senator representing Arizona and does Palin go back to being Governor of Alaska, or did they have to resign from their postitions in order to run for President and VP.

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Originally Posted by strokeitnow

I am really amazed at how naive all of the Oboma supporters on this board really are. Further more the fact that some of us do not approve of Oboma don't be fooled into thinking that we support Bush, the Repbulican party or in any way associated with the religious right. Barrack is in way over his head and you will soon see the rest of the world test him over and over again. We really won't know just how dangerous he is until it is way too late. For the rest of you folks who don't seem to care about Barrack taking more of your money I am fine with that but don't criticize me for not wanting to part with more of the dollars I work my ass off for every day of my life. Wealth is accumulated in this country through hard work and perseverance not re-distribution. We all have the same opportunity to make it and people like Barrack are living testament. I hope all of you Oboma supporters are as quick to express your dissatisfaction with him as you have been with Bush.

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Who gives a shit if any of you tin foil hat wearing fools approves of him or not he is our president now so your going to have to deal with it and support him or STFU and move out of the country.Yeah i bet you are some hard worker just like that lieing piece of shit joe the plumber,don't have to worry i do not think obama will tax your precious escort or transsexual porn funds.