Thought for the Day

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger

Thanks Peejaye. I enjoy coming here and bantering with this little group of containment-board liberals. They are very much UNaware that there actually is a silent majority of people who understand the value of fiscally conservative government.

But that's okay, the most important thing is that we give all our nation's money for the next 30 years to the lazy low-lifes threatening our statues.

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Peejaye arrived on this board as a socialist; a supporter of former British Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn. He insisted that everyone who wasn't George Galloway or Ken Livingstone was right wing. But he's truthfully about as much a socialist as you are a fiscal conservative. You both are people who cannot deal with the world as it is so you construct enemies, blind yourself to facts and think politics and cheerleading are the same thing (just a coincidence that the former GOP president was actually a cheerleader; the one who choked on a pretzel not the one who shit his pants on the golf course). Can you imagine genuine constitutional conservatives supporting insurrectionists? Not any more than I can imagine a real leftist who likes Trump.

The only thing his post indicates is that you both stand for nothing. He can't even discern your politics and cares as little about the issues as you do about accuracy. You have won the praise of a misanthrope who thinks calling someone right-wing is the worst insult he can lob at them. Well fuck, then what does he like about you unless you remind him of Jeremy Corbyn? Do you wear a beret, have a two day old beard, a corduroy jacket, and a son who looks like Frodo Baggins?

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Originally Posted by broncofan

This guy peejaye thinks moderate democrats are right wing. What do you think Nick's politics are?

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I doubt he has any thought beyond 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. It's unlikely he is actually reading ND's alternative reality rants. Increasingly I don't bother reading them either. Underneath the embroidery of words it's mostly the same tediously predictable stuff. If anything, it's getting worse.

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Originally Posted by filghy2

Underneath the embroidery of words it's mostly the same tediously predictable stuff. If anything, it's getting worse.

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True but I did learn his dad has had 4 at fault accidents in a year and won't give up his license. Sadly the moral of that story is somehow that Joe Biden is unfit to be President.

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Originally Posted by peejaye

Why oh why do you waste time on RUBBISH like this Nick? Check your PM box & hopefully we can suffocate these two fucking lunatics :praying:

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger

Thanks Peejaye. I enjoy coming here and bantering with this little group of containment-board liberals. They are very much UNaware that there actually is a silent majority of people who understand the value of fiscally conservative government.

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Don't encourage him, or he'll be sending you more PMs asking to join his secret society for the suppression of the right/left/whatever.

Or moving to st George Utah and joining menudo. Nick I was watching jeopardy the other day and menudo was an answer so thanks for that. Not really a good anecdote but it made me think about this forum.

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Originally Posted by broncofan

Peejaye arrived on this board as a socialist; a supporter of former British Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn. He insisted that everyone who wasn't George Galloway or Ken Livingstone was right wing. But he's truthfully about as much a socialist as you are a fiscal conservative. You both are people who cannot deal with the world as it is so you construct enemies, blind yourself to facts and think politics and cheerleading are the same thing (just a coincidence that the former GOP president was actually a cheerleader; the one who choked on a pretzel not the one who shit his pants on the golf course). Can you imagine genuine constitutional conservatives supporting insurrectionists? Not any more than I can imagine a real leftist who likes Trump.

The only thing his post indicates is that you both stand for nothing. He can't even discern your politics and cares as little about the issues as you do about accuracy. You have won the praise of a misanthrope who thinks calling someone right-wing is the worst insult he can lob at them. Well fuck, then what does he like about you unless you remind him of Jeremy Corbyn? Do you wear a beret, have a two day old beard, a corduroy jacket, and a son who looks like Frodo Baggins?

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Well I can't speak for Peejaye, we've only just met. Perhaps the debacle that is the Biden administration is pushing him in a more conservative political direction.

I feel I've been quite clear about what I represent, Bronco, but maybe you've missed it resultant of all the asshattery on this board - personal responsibility as opposed to living off of other people's money.

That part ain't too complicated. What gets complicated is when Democrats and communists enter the picture and convince the stupid portion of the population that they're entitled to something for having been born. Under capitalism, you aren't entitled to shit except a hard way to go if you're too lazy to contribute to the economy. One would think the current under-employment situation in the USA would finally enlighten some of you smarter Democrats about the benefits of enforced personal financial responsibility. Give people free money and they stop working. The main problem we're having in this country is that employers can't find anyone to do the work, they're all sitting at home living off Biden Bucks - for NOW. It's a slow economic genocide of the middle class. Still can't see it, Bronco? Even when it's happening right in front of you?

Why do you think there are so many upper class Democrats, Bronco? Widespread altruism in the 1%? Or maybe they just don't give a shit what happens to their middle class brethren. They themselves will be fine when the government gibs run out and the middle class is shattered under the crushing weight of UK-tier taxation. THEIR money is in the fucking Bahamas.

Anyone in this country can accomplish anything they want, that's the beauty of the USA. Black, white, purple, male, female, trans, gay, straight, "non-binary" (whatever the fuck that means, I honestly don't know, is that just another word for bisexual?) - it doesn't matter, if you dream it, you can do it, all you need is the will and the drive; as long as conservatives maintain control of the economy.

Pretty sure we've had the conversation before, Bronco, that I am fine with the back-and-forth between Republicans and Democrats. We need the Republicans to keep the economy in order and we need the Democrats to advance us socially. What we DON'T need is a Democratic administration coming into power under the guise of social advancement and instead blowing the economy all to hell with their imbecilic programs for lazy people. The Biden administration is not only exceeding its mandate, it is threatening to destroy the very fabric of society.

What do you stand for anyway, Bronco? You buying into "The USA is systemically racist?" It's a lie and a distraction, a black man can be President if he makes the right choices. He can also end up on the business end of a jackboot if he makes the wrong ones - just like a white man.

Broncofan, as an intelligent and perceptive American, can you confirm that there hasn't been a fiscally responsible Republican in the White House since Eisenhower?

And would you agree, that as a 'businessman' and (fake) Presdent, Donald Trump has an historic record of spending other people's money rather than his own? His addiction to debt may explain the constant expansion of the public debt when he was in the White House, and maybe his only true advice to the American people should be 'borrow as much money as you like and never pay it back, that's what I do'.

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger

What do you stand for anyway, Bronco? You buying into "The USA is systemically racist?" It's a lie and a distraction, a black man can be President if he makes the right choices. He can also end up on the business end of a jackboot if he makes the wrong ones - just like a white man.

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Interesting choice of words, though not exactly surprising for a man who is well on the way to rationalising fascism as a legitimate response to democratic outcomes you don't like.

Has that whole 'birther' thing has been expunged from your memory like so much else, or was that another legitimate response like January 6?

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger

I don't think the Capitol rioters should be charged with anything. They undoubtedly assumed that rioting was now legal, since the Democrats had been doing it for months on end with no consequences whatsoever.

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Just a bunch of guys getting a bit over-enthusiastic in their passion for fiscal conservatism huh?
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Originally Posted by Stavros

Broncofan, as an intelligent and perceptive American, can you confirm that there hasn't been a fiscally responsible Republican in the White House since Eisenhower?

And would you agree, that as a 'businessman' and (fake) Presdent, Donald Trump has an historic record of spending other people's money rather than his own? His addiction to debt may explain the constant expansion of the public debt when he was in the White House, and maybe his only true advice to the American people should be 'borrow as much money as you like and never pay it back, that's what I do'.

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I would agree with you. At least I have not seen a Republican president who qualifies as fiscally conservative. Deregulation-maybe but they haven't really accomplished their so-called end of getting rid of cumbersome regulations that get in the way of commerce but have instead allowed businesses to externalize costs. Free Trade-except for the fact that their most recent President wanted to start a trade war with China based simply on his feelings about the Chinese. Balanced Budget-pretty sure it's just something they say during a Democratic administration when they oppose programs but they will happily support tax cuts that have no beneficial effect for the economy.

Donald Trump doesn't pay taxes. He claims it's because he is using the tax code effectively and not because he fails to make money. If the taxes he pays don't reflect his ability to pay who does that benefit? Only him. Would someone who has supposedly made billions of dollars only be in business if he's allowed to pay zero dollars in tax for decades? There is no useful purpose in having a system of taxation that allows someone to make billions of dollars through investment activity, plenty of it liquid and not pay tax.

I will get to Nick Danger's post later but I'm not sure how this is personal financial responsibility. It sounds like he has a limitless ability to borrow, never seems to service his debts or pay them down, and doesn't pay taxes. I understand that in commercial real estate investors want to be highly leveraged but don't banks ever look at his layers of debt and coverage ratios?

Wealthy people do not benefit as much from Democratic tax policies. So most wealthy Democrats at the very least are voting for politicians who will tax them more. I imagine they think it's a more fair system and the amount of additional tax they pay is not a huge personal burden to them. I reject the claim that conservatives are good for the economy. Conservatives are good at allowing cronyism (and corruption) and very low tax burdens for exorbitantly wealthy people. The former sometimes poses a grave risk to the economy.