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It takes two to tango. If he's ever been with an escort, it means he's inferior to men who don't have to pay for sex. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Also, being on a porn forum would be considered "inferior" behavior compared to having a meaningful conversation with a woman in a non-sexworker environment. He might want to do all of this theorizing, concerning who's worth what, on a stroll and see what kind of reactions he gets from casual observers and passers by. lol
Maybe because their mother was never treated like a woman, so they don't know how to be men.Quote:
Originally Posted by pimpdog
Trying not to associate yourself with thugs, dead beat fathers, lowlife after calling a woman a whore for uncalled reason defies what you were trying to veer from.
lol...you guys are quite funny.
so let's see...i'm destitute, hard up for sex, have a problem with my mother...what else am i?
and now getting fucked is hard work too.
some of you people really need to get a clue. there is a reason that prostitution is the worlds oldest profession...because its easy and anyone can do it.
look...even the brazilian midget tranny gets work.
you're severely deluding yourself if you think you'd make it half a mile walking in our shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
i have been with several transsexuls escorts over the years...some very famous and others just regular escorts because i really only get to indulge a few times a year at best due to my wife's reluctance to have a threesome with a tgirl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
do i think i am inferior to men who don't have to pay...yes and no. no because i'm not looking for a girlfriend. but yes because when we play the drinking game "Never Have I Ever," I have to get the look of disdain from friends when they say "never have I ever paid for it."
i knew quite a long time ago that there are 2 types of people in the world. those that enjoy my brand of bullshit and can actually understand why i am an asshole...and those that will never get me at all. clearly, all the assumptions made about me here mean that many of you are in the latter group.
that said...the fact remains that this is a porn board full of escorts and johns, pornographers and consumers. no one here is more special or entitled because of their role in this online relationship...but apparently too many of you think you actually matter.
A girl once gave me q bag of dope to sleep with her. I ended up feeling really stoned afterward.Quote:
Originally Posted by rydermorrison
i was waiting for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rydermorrison
thanks.
so are you a prostitute who is transitioning OR a person transitioning who escorts?
If you are the former...you have a VERY SAD existence because you are defining yourself by what you do.
If you are the latter...then you are admitting that escorting is an ends to means but not who you are.
Your escorting is just a job. your transitioning is your life direction. For making the choices to transition, you are to be commended for having internal direction and confidence in your desires to go for it. For using escorting to pay for it...that doesn't inspire respect.
Your job is NOT who you are, until you prove otherwise like some people in this thread have demonstrated.
let's put it another way. From a respect point of view, anyone in transition that is not in the sex industry deserves a bit more respect than one that is involved in the sex industry.
lol im really not going to lend any credence to your idiotic rational by answering your questions. You arent the determiner of who is more worthy of respect and who is less. you're a piece of dust..Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
STOP! This is important:
Ryder- you're in LA? Like, for reals and for awhile?
You really dont have a clue what you are talking about, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
Its far from anyone. And what makes you think its easy?
lol yep! im still looking for an apartment but i'm out here to stay. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MdR Dave
ryder...you don't have to answer my questions...you have retired from porn....so that should mean that porn was only a means to an end to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rydermorrison
also...respect is earned...so yes, I am the determiner of who is more worthy of my respect. and i can say that NOTHING...absolutely NOTHING can be done to earn respect over the internet. i've not tried to earn yours so everything should be honky-dory
wow this thread is still alive?
Top Sugar Daddy cities announced.
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Dammit, LA is behind Frisco in something AGAIN? That's unacceptable!
Ultimately I don't care what you say or think, so you certainly don't matter to me. lol You're interesting to observe to some extent because you're obviously smart. But "smart" doesn't guarantee that someone's got social skills. It's pretty obvious that you're entertaining yourself. And that's fine. Everyone here does that to some extent. I like talking to people too.Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
I do think you're being a bit abusive towards Evon though, and absurdly critical of Domino. But in the end, nothing anyone says here will have any bearing on any of our lives. Remember. This is all just self-indulgent chit chat. And what we ask for, we know we can get. If not from you, from someone else. We know what our time is worth. In fact, it's you gentlemen who collectively tell us what it's worth, even when one of you puts your energy into telling us why you, personally, won't give it to us. lol
LA here I come!Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
Yeah, well in the real world it does not matter how hard some people work - not everyone can be successful!Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
And for the record, I don't work at McDonald's lol. You gave that example. :)
I'm not talking about the trials and tribulations of being trans, and I'm not making assumptions about what Domino has to do in those 30 mins. Whatever she's doing it is for only 30mins of her day! That poor minimum wage sucker had to work weeks to earn 1k. It's obvious which is easier!
There may be unappealing factors involved in making such a quick buck - that could make the job hard (not necessarily the work), but the fact remains Domino is not labouring day in, day out for a couple of weeks to earn that thousand...
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Originally Posted by loveboof
A person who says works 1 week and makes 1 k, No one really knows if she gets 1k once a week. it's the same salary, and normal people don't have expenses like we ts have. So it s as much work as anyone else, your looking at it from an ignorant point of view completely ignoring the other aspect of ones life. A person can save the 1k they made that week, but domino has medical bills that might cut that salary almost in half. It is not fact, because you do not have proof nor do we? your assuming therefore its no fact.
I'll start page 63...still going...
A person's expenses does not retrospectively affect how hard they worked to earn their money (it may motivate them to earn more though).Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
To clarify, I have no doubt that prostitution is unpleasant, derogatory, often unsafe, etc. That is not an easy job! But, the average hooker is not charging $2000 p/h. This is an important distinction.
And you are incorrect to suggest that all those minimum wage people can just save their 1k that took them weeks to earn - we all have expenses.
I may be ignorant of what a tgirl escort's life entails, but excuse me for saying you seem equally ignorant of what an actual normal, every day person's life is about. You're still very young, you've been to college - you could not possibly have worked some 'dead end job', and if you have then it hasn't been for long!
And you are correct to suggest that Domino might only see 1 client every few weeks, making her salary the same. But she has still only actually worked for 30 minutes of those 2 weeks for the same money!
This does not sound like 'hard work' to me. I am not saying her life must be easy as a result of this! Those are two different things..
Well you know what? Go to the doctor every 3 months to make sure your not having any physical side effects from the very expensive hormones you pay for, then saving up for medical emergencies, while paying for different plastic surgeries, while paying for regular bills like rent, phone bills, car insurance, clothes, food, etc... Your comparison to the real world has got nothing on our world. Step in our shoes for a month you will not make it a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveboof
How can one say its not had work? I am sure she applied and tried various other works like all ts women but majority of us cannot find work, so we work harder to find a better solution. Getting to the place of high paying salary is hard work from the process alone, you have no idea what your talking about! The reason why a few women can charge that much is because they have worked hard to earn a name, an image, a product that most don't even do. This industry in general is hard work, it's called hustling. To go out and find a job out of the norm is not easy, however it is easier to some.
Higher paid women don't just wake up one day and say i will charge 1000k. That is stupid! Domino did movies to get her out there, then she paid for a few surgeries, and created an image, to create her product she paid photographers, clothes, and various materials. This took years, and god knows where she was before porn? Its hard work. How can you say it's not? she worked hard to get that salary. And deserves every penny of it, and the guy int he Mcdonalds register can learn a few things from people like us.
These guys just like jerking off to the finished product. If they had to visualize what you and I have gone through to be the people they casually want to screw, their dicks would go limp. They only want the finished product as a fantasy. Even an hour in our shoes within our first year of transition would have them slitting their wrists or blowing their brains out. You and I know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
So you're wasting your breath to a degree here. They're just trying to get you equally as upset as they are that they can't afford certain things in life. This thread's just bringing out their resentments.
Personally, I think it's fascinating. And the irony is, their level of resentment is partially what gives us the right to decide what our time is worth. lol
Linda Evangelista: "I don't get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day."
Love Linda, She worked hard and deserves her money, and people were willing to give her that salary!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
If I ever become that kind of public figure and earn 50 million a year, I shouldn't be made feel like i don't deserve it, just because people don't have it.
i know quite a few girls in transition that never needed to resort to sex work. they maintained successful careers. there are actually far more transgendered girls out there NOT in porn or escorting than otherwise. I respect them moreso than I ever would someone with a far easier job.
I respect people who work hard at anything. I don't think hearing about transsexuals and knowing a few gives you any profound understanding of what being a TS is really like. Most transsexuals I've known don't even verbalize the most painful aspects of their transitions. But they don't have to so much around one another. We know what we've encountered in life. Especially people who experienced GID even in early childhood. For them, stuggling to fit is just a way of life. If you don't bury it and become desensitized to it to some degree, you'll never work it out intellectually at a future date.Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
You like trannies for fucking purposes. And you're a thinker, so you've thought about them/us. I don't know how close you've been to us in your life, but you certainly don't know what it's like to be us. Case in point; I don't know what it's like to be black and wear a hoodie in FL, but I'm sure it's more challenging when you're not white. That'll take a toll on a person's psyche and concept of self. There are reasons that black people are often underachievers other than "they're all lazy". I know you're smart enough to understand that.
Anyway, why be here and cop a sanctimonious attitude? lol Obviously you're damaged goods yourself by society's standards on some level, to even have established a presence on this forum of all places. Does that bother you? And, if so, how do you emotionally process it?
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Originally Posted by rydermorrison
So I guess our vacation to the carribbean is off, since your going to be out in LA.
anyone got $2000 they could lend me!!
lol sorry :/Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeisfiction
No worries. I want you to be holding a grammy, so it was for a good cause. This carribbean vacation will be lonely :(, but I will be happy to see you collect your reward.
Then what the hell are you doing on this site? If you have such a huge problem with escorting and hustling? I mean why get yourself involved in a forum where soley the women are working one form or another?Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyCola
It's not like your challenging yourself in life either? You come here for easy eye candy, it's not like you go out and put effort in dating transexual women?
The truth is this...
Attractive transexuals are not easy to find, more so that you could date or have sex with, the solution is most people have to pay easy and and simple, and anyone who says they can get transexual ass anytime, wouldn't be here or you would be too busy banging them in person. GET YOUR LIFE.
Linda Evangelista: "I don't get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day."
There are some mindreaders on this site. Supermodels make obscene amounts of money and nobody argues much because the Fashion Designers make even more money. I like Linda because her face is like a blank canvas, all her photos look different. However, I think most people consider her an alien from another planet.
Sometimes I'm tempted to ask the girls here personal questions, but I don't dare. Pain is the interesting part of life.
I hope Domino's a good sport and I think we all owe her a Goochy Bag when this fucker hits 69.
I can tease Domino because no way am I ever going to spend a thousand dollars for "companionship" ...What I want to know is how can a damn plumber get away with charging $125, for just showing up?
Everyone has to use the toilet. Therefore when its not working, your going to have to get it fixed and you will pony up the cash. How long can you last without having some sort of access to a toilet especially in a city setting. I can put money down you can last a longer without sex than having a toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttslinger
OK...Since I started this thread (seems like years ago), I've had a change of heart. In fact, I've become a HUGE Domino fan now. I'm ready to plunk down my G this weekend! Wait, I think the 1.2 G for an hour is a better deal so that's how I'll roll (I mean undulate).
I've also taken the liberty of composing a tribute to Domino!
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God, it's so exhausting having a discussion with you because you just argue whatever it is you want to argue about regardless of what the other person is saying! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
I have never said it is easy to be transgendered. And I have not said it is easy to be a prostitute.
Does Domino deserve $2000 p/h for escorting? - yes, if someone is willing to pay it. That is also not what I am saying.
I am saying that 30 minutes sucking cock does not constitute 'hard work'. However unpleasant it may be, it is still only 30 minutes of 'working' to earn the same amount that Mr Average has to devote 2 whole weeks to earn.
I understand that you want to justify your lifestyle and career choices, but in the real world (i.e not sex related) working hard means an entirely different thing.
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Disappointed in your response - you're normally smarter than that. Have you even read my comments or are you just lumping me in with the rest for the sake of your solidarity with Evon's transgender hardship crusade?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
I don't care what Domino charges for sex - I don't frequent escorts, and if I did she lives in another country to me. In short, it has nothing to do with me.
I am not resentful about anyone making a living for themselves, however they go about it. I just like to see people being honest with themselves, and both you and Evon are in the sex industry and as such do not have any perspective on what you do.
Equally you can call me ignorant because I am not involved in the sex trade. It's fairly circular tbh.
Transsexuals are also less desperate, have higher self esteem, and turn down porn and escorting more than ever. Therefore, the chances of finding one to have sex with, just because you feel like it at some random mpoment, will become more difficult. In fact, transsexuals marrying for money will be a trend that we'll see increase in our lifetimes. There will be more transsexual Anna Nicole Smiths in circulation ie. gold diggers. And men have no shame. There are men who will marry us and give us whatever we want. Men like trophies. The more vanilla transsexuals become, the more guys on porn forums will need to kiss out asses if they want the time of day. The really generous gents already treat us pretty well. Aside from this cornball porn scene, there are movers and shakers out there who know how to get what they want, and it's not bizillionth here-today-gone-tomorrow TS porn model. lol
The reason I bring up the hardship of our life is because it is real life, you talk about real life all the time... well this is is our real life, the truth is getting to the escorting world where we can charge thousands had tremendous hard work and effort put in it to get us there...Quote:
Originally Posted by loveboof
Here is an example, when I ran away from home at 16 I started in the sex industry as a stripper, then a low income escort charging 100-150 an hour, then I became a dominatrix charging the same, it took me 4 years to gain the clienteles I have and the connection and constant hustling to be charging 5k a night. So Most people might say it may not be hard work, but that 4 years it took was super hard for me and you have no idea, i had to supply my work financially while going to school I supported myself. Because of this work many different opportunities came such as my boyfriends who support me financially and more clients paying the price, regardless I am still on schedule, I still travel all over the world, While trying to make a career going, because the sex industry shouldn't be a lifelong career. IMO. So If you ask me I am multi tasking and It is getting super hard as years progress...
I don't think your in any position to be saying if I do or do not work harder than the average person, i am not the average person therefore you really do not know... Sorry If our high income work bothers you or of you feel we don't deserve it for the lack of hard for you seem to think we don't put into it, however many people could say the same about your life and would rather you have less, look back on Nicole's comment, where she gave the example of other ppl thinking western civilization do not deserve their lifestyle either. Do you think you put in more work than the other less fortunate country? Not really your blessed and I think because of our life and struggles we deserve this opportunity to make more money too.
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Originally Posted by EvonRose
oh i get it...you want us to feel sorry for you for YOUR CHOICES in life.
i didn't understand till now. its all about you and your choices.
oh and to answer your question as to why i am here....you make me laugh. so, here's to you improving my day with your comedic bullshit and me not having to pay your for it!!!!
I feel sorry for some of you girls. A lot of you seem to be resentful of the very men who find you most attractive - and demean their admiration and acceptance of you by belittling and insulting them.
As a by-product of this behaviour you're ultimately demeaning yourself. Then just to top it all off you seem to have incorporated a materialistic entitlement into your psyche as a result of the pressure you have developed given the necessity of the resources needed to transform your bodies.