Men who are attracted to transgendered women- Straight, bi, gay?

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

I'd be willing to wager a penis does it's fair share of undermining womanhood as well. That's why I'll always fly the transgendered flag in my home. Anything less/more would undermine my honesty as a human being.

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That is YOUR TRUTH Jamie not mine.
I know who I am.

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

In all honesty, with the amount of trans girls that come in and out of this house for work, I've had plenty of time to sit and gab about how we see the kind of dudes that are sexually attracted to folks like us. The overwhelming consensus is that the guys are totally queer. The only thing that irks us is how squeamish ya'll are about it.

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i concur with this assessment

I'm not even sure the terms have any pertinence anymore. Sexual relations, in an urban world at least (by opposition to the deep country, or to some heartland of some kind), is so diversified today that they have lost much of their meaning. The "top", "bottom" and "versatile" denominations are much more telling. On the other hand, the terms "man" and "woman" are still as relevant as ever, and I personaly believe in what they define more than in almost any other concept. To me, the sexual compatibility is what makes this world tolerable and, often, even really beautiful.
What I'd say, as far as I'm concerned, is that I love women. I love all women, all types of women. I love their aethetic, their softness, their temperament, their psychological and physical attributes, what they contribute to this life with; I love women wheter they have a little extra or not. What I want to do to a t-woman is exactly the same I want to do to a g-woman: I want to take her, caress her, kiss her and lick her wherever I find beauty and penetrate her until mutual satisfaction if possible.
Do I care being called "gay" because I like t-women as much as g-women? Yes, because I find it insulting to t-women; I find it offensive for them, and I find it denies them the title they are so obviously deserving of, which is simply that of women. Is it a bias of me to think like this? Of course not. Whatever anyone thinks, it has been long very well demonstrated that t-women are women, that the condition is real, that it is not some kind of whim or fancy, nor is it a simple or insignificant type of neurosis: the condition is REAL, it has been well demonstrated, we now even have strong neurological and biological evidences to support it. There really is such a thing as a feminine identity to some people born male, and the tremendous and colossal effort to fit their phenotype to this sense of identity is completely legitimate.
Do I personaly feel offended being called "gay" because I like t-women as women, I mean, am I offended in my masculinity? No. I know who and what I am. If some people want to tag me for that, it's their thing, no mine. As far as I'm concerned, I just like women! Why would I think of myself as being gay??!
As to Jamie's opinion, which to my knowledge is not shared by many transsexual women, I respect it totally. She has the right and the priviledge to see herself as she wishes to. We also have at least another member whom I respect and whom I know feel the same, for having read posts of her expressing it: Tia Phoenixx whom as Jamie, is magnificent with femininity.

Yeah I also respect the variety of opinions. I don't want to be in denial, but my view is that if there's a term used to describe things that are slightly but undeniably different, it's not denial to create a new term or accept that there are shades of grey. I notice that when someone thinks a term has pejorative undertones, they are more likely to sort of round to that term when there's any ambiguity.

For instance, someone who is part minority might be seen by the majority culture as entirely minority, maybe based on a belief that there is something tainted about that group, and any amount of that quality ushers them out of the majority. Likewise, bisexual is "gay" to some people, as is having a sexual orientation that is somewhere on a sliding scale between interest in masculinity or femininity. Terms and categories, like models in science, are there only to simplify understanding. They don't have to be accepted in their entirety. So I think my view is closest to what Dan describes above in that we subsume complex phenomena in categories that are too simple.

When are we ever going to stop trying to put a label on everyone??
I am what I am.

- Men who are attracted to transgendered women- Straight, bi, gay?

- Yes!

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Originally Posted by Jamie French

I only date trans anyhow so it's nothing more than a talking point to me. Eva and I are totally fagtastic for each other...

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Ahhh Jamie I wanna play with both of you and Eva...

whatever it is called when you are attracted to dick is what i am, i like dick on men, dick on sexy, girly looking men, and dildos

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Originally Posted by ilove2swallow

whatever it is called when you are attracted to dick is what i am, i like dick on men, dick on sexy, girly looking men, and dildos

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I didn't think this person exists. Even on the Kinsey scale this tips the scale.
Verdict: Gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.

i DO NOT find men sexy tho, i have a girlfriend, AND we have 3 kids, living together, sexually open, but dont believe in marriage