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06-05-2008
trish

needsum writes:

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And right now, we have only TWO perspectives to choose from.

Look how many candidates ran for the democratic primary…somewhere around 6? For the republican it was somewhere around 10. Would you rather we had 16 or more individuals running for president in the fall? Ultimately there’s only ONE perspective that wins….unless…the candidates form a coalition, coalescing around common or similar points of view. They then agree to run just one member from the coalition. Let’s call these coalitions, parties. The party that captures the hearts and minds of the most people will win the election and then there will be MULTIPLE perspectives within the White House representing the people.
06-05-2008
BrendaQG

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Originally Posted by mimiplastique

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Originally Posted by melissacarter

As cosmetic as it may sound, I believe it's Hillary's grating voice that sunk her boat.

no matter what i say ... i will be looked at as silly ...
i really don't know too much about either campaigns and i would vote fo Hillary solely on the belief that Obama would be killed because of some of the real racist people in this country...
i will however say that this thread has taught me alot about the up coming election .
Thanks guys ... it was alot of pages to read and i think that Wenndy had some ver valid points along with every one else :)
~mimi

That's not silly at all. Gag on this.

Youtube Video "The KKK wants to kill Barack Obama." WARNING FOR THE FAINT OF HEART OR PC. THIS COULD BE OFFENSIVE.

Suppose Obama wins on election night but..... is shot or something before the electoral college meets. I am not a constitutional Lawyer or anything but If I read things right they would then choose whomsoever they wished to be the president. With no regard for weather we voted for them or not. The electors which are who we directly vote for.... have that power.

Anyway on topc ____________________

All this talk of Hillary being a VP candidate is total BS. She has insinuated that he is a Muslim (leaving aside how I feel about that possibility being seen as an "accusation"). She has provided for John McCain good ammunition regarding Obama's experience and such. Furthermore many of her supporters talk of forming a third party. If that happens then the only prayer the democrats have is the same happening on the republican side.

Which could happen. Many conservative Republicans do not like McCain. They feel him far too liberal. They then might run Gov. Mitt Romney. So we could see in the weirdest of all worlds. Four parties and four candidates in the general election. It'll be like being in a real democracy for a change.... Mabey from then on we could do what they did in the early days of the republic, Have who comes in 1st be president and who comes in 2nd be vice president.
06-05-2008
mbf

Time for my monthly post.

You guys mostly sound as if Barack Obama has won already. Far from beeing so I am afraid.

Prepare yourself for idiotic and brutal five months ahead, with the oh-so-balanced media hammering it into you, that he is a muslim, a "liberal", wants to take away your weapons, has no experience in foreign affairs or the economy, thrown in subtle and not-so-subtle racism.

The anti-Obama witchhunt will be gruesome.

And now, I am not even a yank, but that doesn't hold me back from commenting: Like it or not, the US-president IS somewhat the first political leader of the western world ( say OECD-countries).

If you are American who does not travel abroad, you have NO idea how much the international reputation of the USA suffered the last seven, eight years. Your image changed from beeing admired and respected to beeing loathed and ridiculed, not even feared any longer.

In short, any member of this very board, who will still vote republican, is a buffoon, helplessly foolish, and deserves the next four years downhill for america (too bad, good people will suffer as well).

And as comments regarding Obama's final nomination show, some of you still haven't realized how bad the US need a change.
06-05-2008
dan_drade

http://www.lp.org/
06-05-2008
MrsKellyPierce

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldensamba

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Originally Posted by KellyShore

And Felicia she is counting anyone that voted for her, Hilary has almost 56 % of the popular vote and Obama had 44 %

it's a fact sorry.

You can twist how you like, but the numbers and percantages will not change.

She is the first primary candidate to ever receive so many votes!

Obama himself even congratulate her on that.

So she did win the POPULAR vote

I don't care if you don't like me facts are facts and when you say something stupid you will be called on it. If you want to live in fantasy land about how she won the popular vote without adding the fact that you are including a state where Obama wasn't even on the ballot that is complete dishonesty and lack of integrity. It is because ALL of the candidates agreed to remove themselves from the ballot that he was not there, yet for some reason Hillary didn't follow through with her commitment. To go and use this bogus "popular vote" argument considering the entire picture is laughable. It's a free country (and a free board) so I don't give a rats ass if you like me or not. You have no reason not to so I am a bit confused. Have you ever met me? Talked to me? Spent time around me? I see you also have an irrational hatred of Obama without getting your facts straight. Anyone else see a pattern here?

She'd of still won the vote, she had 18 million he had 13 million even if you took those two states away.
06-05-2008
doasuwill

Good, no more legacy Presidents and that includes the Kennedy's, Bushes, and Clintons.
06-05-2008
MrsKellyPierce

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbf

Time for my monthly post.

You guys mostly sound as if Barack Obama has won already. Far from beeing so I am afraid.

Prepare yourself for idiotic and brutal five months ahead, with the oh-so-balanced media hammering it into you, that he is a muslim, a "liberal", wants to take away your weapons, has no experience in foreign affairs or the economy, thrown in subtle and not-so-subtle racism.

The anti-Obama witchhunt will be gruesome.

And now, I am not even a yank, but that doesn't hold me back from commenting: Like it or not, the US-president IS somewhat the first political leader of the western world ( say OECD-countries).

If you are American who does not travel abroad, you have NO idea how much the international reputation of the USA suffered the last seven, eight years. Your image changed from beeing admired and respected to beeing loathed and ridiculed, not even feared any longer.

In short, any member of this very board, who will still vote republican, is a buffoon, helplessly foolish, and deserves the next four years downhill for america (too bad, good people will suffer as well).

And as comments regarding Obama's final nomination show, some of you still haven't realized how bad the US need a change.

AGREED!
06-05-2008
trish

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the best person as president

This is just a ludicrous concept. There are a myriads of myriads of measures by which an individual might be evaluated for the presidency and most of them conflict with each other. By some measure we always have "the best person as president"...just witness the twenty odd percent of people still sticking by Bush junior. Politics doesn't fail...politics just is. It's various political perspectives and agendas that either solve or fail to solve the problems we face.
06-05-2008
MrsKellyPierce

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbf

Time for my monthly post.

You guys mostly sound as if Barack Obama has won already. Far from beeing so I am afraid.

Prepare yourself for idiotic and brutal five months ahead, with the oh-so-balanced media hammering it into you, that he is a muslim, a "liberal", wants to take away your weapons, has no experience in foreign affairs or the economy, thrown in subtle and not-so-subtle racism.

The anti-Obama witchhunt will be gruesome.

And now, I am not even a yank, but that doesn't hold me back from commenting: Like it or not, the US-president IS somewhat the first political leader of the western world ( say OECD-countries).

If you are American who does not travel abroad, you have NO idea how much the international reputation of the USA suffered the last seven, eight years. Your image changed from beeing admired and respected to beeing loathed and ridiculed, not even feared any longer.

In short, any member of this very board, who will still vote republican, is a buffoon, helplessly foolish, and deserves the next four years downhill for america (too bad, good people will suffer as well).

And as comments regarding Obama's final nomination show, some of you still haven't realized how bad the US need a change.

AGREED! Thats why I mentioned what he said in a debate where Hilary laughed at him when he said well I'd just walk into Iran in talk to them. Then she asked back, you'd put your presidency and the America in total trouble that way. You don't know what they would do and its easy to get hurt that way. And then he recanted his statement lol

And he keeps talking about "change" and doesn't tell us how.

People are so dumb.

All they listen to is the "CHANGE" part.

My favorite moment of the debate was after the clip of Clinton making fun of Obama for being a dreamer and creating a painting of a world uniting and problems being solved (”and the clouds will open up and the sun will shine” … etc etc.), as if he'll just wave a wand and it will happen cause he keeps on saying "It's Time for Change" with no STANCE OF HOW!
06-05-2008
Legend

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyShore

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbf

Time for my monthly post.

You guys mostly sound as if Barack Obama has won already. Far from beeing so I am afraid.

Prepare yourself for idiotic and brutal five months ahead, with the oh-so-balanced media hammering it into you, that he is a muslim, a "liberal", wants to take away your weapons, has no experience in foreign affairs or the economy, thrown in subtle and not-so-subtle racism.

The anti-Obama witchhunt will be gruesome.

And now, I am not even a yank, but that doesn't hold me back from commenting: Like it or not, the US-president IS somewhat the first political leader of the western world ( say OECD-countries).

If you are American who does not travel abroad, you have NO idea how much the international reputation of the USA suffered the last seven, eight years. Your image changed from beeing admired and respected to beeing loathed and ridiculed, not even feared any longer.

In short, any member of this very board, who will still vote republican, is a buffoon, helplessly foolish, and deserves the next four years downhill for america (too bad, good people will suffer as well).

And as comments regarding Obama's final nomination show, some of you still haven't realized how bad the US need a change.

AGREED! Thats why I mentioned what he said in a debate where Hilary laughed at him when he said well I'd just walk into Iran in talk to them. Then she asked back, you'd put your presidency and the America in total trouble that way. You don't know what they would do and its easy to get hurt that way. And then he recanted his statement lol

And he keeps talking about "change" and doesn't tell us how.

People are so dumb.

All they listen to is the "CHANGE" part.

You do realize what you are agreeing to right?

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