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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Everyone has good points in this thread IMO.
However, we have to keep it REAL.

There are hustlers who glam up and put on a wig to get paid a few c-notes to perpetrate like a TS. Maybe some early transitioning girls really do photoshoots, but some, I'm sorry, come out the box like DUDES in a wig and bad makeup who forgot to shave.

Jess isn't stupid and she isn't making stuff up.

As a consumer on BTG every once in a while that 6th sense gets tripped that you're looking at pics of a gay boi who's capitalizing off the easy coin in playing some horny dumb str8 man's tgirl fantasy.

Is it Seanchai's responsibility to put every 'girl' through a thorough background check before a shoot?? Hell no.

There's a line a friend of mine uses in the clubs when he's macking; ' if a female is going to be dumb enough to ask, I'm going to be smart enough to lie.'

This goes on EVERYWHERE. Even on BTG.

I'm sure there are girls Seanchai chooses not to shoot, but I've always felt some TS shouldn't be propositioned to do photos and porn too early in their transition because they aren't THERE yet.

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no one said she was stupid, but she doesn't know the complete facts about things.

let's take for example the pay rate, which we have clarified for being above 500. also how porn companies are making millions/billions (which one is it?) and how they should up the pay for the girls...

we all want more money, but there are many who don't know how much money is invested in post production as well. the rates are the standard rate across the board for every company in this genre PERIOD! so it has no affect on whether the girl has been around for years or not. it's the same rate.

plus for girls to complain that it's too little pay who escort, this is going off of rates for CAnadian girls btw. A top ts escort makes 500/hour on avg. Now what happens in that hour is entirely between them and the client. Now let's take what the top rate was 5 years ago for a photoshoot which was 500. an avg shoot takes just over an hour (1h15/30 tops) and requires nude posing and masterbating with a cumshot. So for what could be considerably much less work, for roughly the same amount time and around the same amount of money, how is what you do currently any more or less than what girls do for "too little money" lol again this is just going off what I see on the escort pages here in Canada. obviously some girls get considerably more than that, as Jess said she makes it in 15mins, but dont' hate on girls for doing their own thing.

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

everyone has good points in this thread imo.
However, we have to keep it real.

There are hustlers who glam up and put on a wig to get paid a few c-notes to perpetrate like a ts. Maybe some early transitioning girls really do photoshoots, but some, i'm sorry, come out the box like dudes in a wig and bad makeup who forgot to shave.

Jess isn't stupid and she isn't making stuff up.

As a consumer on btg every once in a while that 6th sense gets tripped that you're looking at pics of a gay boi who's capitalizing off the easy coin in playing some horny dumb str8 man's tgirl fantasy.

Is it seanchai's responsibility to put every 'girl' through a thorough background check before a shoot?? Hell no.

There's a line a friend of mine uses in the clubs when he's macking; ' if a female is going to be dumb enough to ask, i'm going to be smart enough to lie.'

this goes on everywhere. Even on btg.

I'm sure there are girls seanchai chooses not to shoot, but i've always felt some ts shouldn't be propositioned to do photos and porn too early in their transition because they aren't there yet.

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my fukin hero !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know im not crazy !! .... I know people and have photos with these same boys.. That post on the same sites as i.. That are on the same porn as the rest.. That are online with google chrome as ts wonder blah blah... But on safari as mascthug6969 so dont come at me like im talking non sense. Im saying yall need to step yall media up. If she has to look at least womanly sure.. But some of those pics are just unacceptable. In my opinion.

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Originally Posted by tsjizelle

no one said she was stupid, but she doesn't know the complete facts about things.

Let's take for example the pay rate, which we have clarified for being above 500. Also how porn companies are making millions/billions (which one is it?) and how they should up the pay for the girls...

We all want more money, but there are many who don't know how much money is invested in post production as well. The rates are the standard rate across the board for every company in this genre period! So it has no affect on whether the girl has been around for years or not. It's the same rate.

Plus for girls to complain that it's too little pay who escort, this is going off of rates for canadian girls btw. A top ts escort makes 500/hour on avg. Now what happens in that hour is entirely between them and the client. Now let's take what the top rate was 5 years ago for a photoshoot which was 500. An avg shoot takes just over an hour (1h15/30 tops) and requires nude posing and masterbating with a cumshot. So for what could be considerably much less work, for roughly the same amount time and around the same amount of money, how is what you do currently any more or less than what girls do for "too little money" lol again this is just going off what i see on the escort pages here in canada. Obviously some girls get considerably more than that, as jess said she makes it in 15mins, but dont' hate on girls for doing their own thing.

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you make sense..

But no one wants to agree with about the "gay for ts pay" im saying does not exsist...

Oh I agree it exists.....as Seanchai even said we've had very fem popular models detransition as well. so just because they appear more or less fem than another, doesn't mean she's any more likely a woman in their real life. and as Rally has mentioned, regardless if the mass finds it appealing or not, there is a market for consumers to want to see girls in early transition. some of my older work is the highest rated and most popular on Shemaleyum, yet I've filled out and look way more feminine now than I did then. just goes back to personal taste. Most of my following has stayed so loyal to me because they have seen me transition over the last 3 years. It gave them a sense of being there to witness the process in those 3 years, and making them feel like they know me a bit more. and the process is still continuing and my fan base is only growing because of it

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Originally Posted by TsJizelle

Oh I agree it exists.....as Seanchai even said we've had very fem popular models detransition as well. so just because they appear more or less fem than another, doesn't mean she's any more likely a woman in their real life. and as Rally has mentioned, regardless if the mass finds it appealing or not, there is a market for consumers to want to see girls in early transition. some of my older work is the highest rated and most popular on Shemaleyum, yet I've filled out and look way more feminine now than I did then. just goes back to personal taste. Most of my following has stayed so loyal to me because they have seen me transition over the last 3 years. It gave them a sense of being there to witness the process in those 3 years, and making them feel like they know me a bit more. and the process is still continuing and my fan base is only growing because of it

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AND YOU DONT THINK I AS AN "ESCORT" SHOWCASED THAT TRANSITION THROUGH MY PHOTO SHOOTS? I DONT THINK I HAD TO SHOW "TITS N COCK" TO ACHIEVE THE SAME THING...

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I am not undermining anything you do or have done period. those words never came out of my mouth. neither do I look down on escorts, or see the processes involved with it as anything less or more than those who do porn.

what I am saying is that there are benefits and negatives for girls who show themselves in early transition. but you were the one who said, what "woman" would want to do that? I was simply trying to show you how I've reaped benefits from it. just like I am sure you have too from you trying to use the above photos as an example.

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Originally Posted by tsdvdman

"also her comment "every man cannot be a woman" ... Why?"
omg seanchi are you kiddin me? Dude..if you think every man can be a woman then that is exactly why we are having this discussion..it's reflected and obvious in your site

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agreed !! I wont say his name no longer in my post or even respond to him... But people like that blurrrrrrrrrrrrrr the lines of tv to ts... There is a distinct line. Dont believe me.. Google the definitions.

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Originally Posted by SEXY TS JESS

agreed !! I wont say his name no longer in my post or even respond to him... But people like that blurrrrrrrrrrrrrr the lines of tv to ts... There is a distinct line. Dont believe me.. Google the definitions.

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How about you get the definition of either "shemale" or "tgirl" - dimwit?

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Originally Posted by SEXY TS JESS

agreed !! I wont say his name no longer in my post or even respond to him... But people like that blurrrrrrrrrrrrrr the lines of tv to ts... There is a distinct line. Dont believe me.. Google the definitions.

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in fact, there is no distinct line at all. too many people, clinical and lay...porn producer and consumer...male and female...have a varying and deeply personal scale of what different iterations of transgendered people should be called.

you might find 50% of the people on this site to agree with your definitions, but that doesn't mean the definitions are distinct.

the only distinct lines are really....
- do you dress in the apparel and act opposite to your birth gender for sexual gratification only?
- have you FULLY transitioned away from your birth gender and had GRS?

everything else in between is kinda fuzzy depending on your point of view.

I just have to say Sheeba is my GIRL! I fucking love seeing pics of her! LOL And I love hanging out with her! But anyways on other subject, I do know guys have done modeling in trans world to make money but I dont get it? Because the gay market pays a gay male performer a lot more then us ladies! I would think u would jump in your own waters! But I know a lot of girls pose early in their transition, I dont know why girls do this at all. I have a few friends who have posed for Yum early in their transition and years later regret it. And Seanchi has been great to those girls when they asked for the pics to be removed from site he has. I just think girls should take time and find out who they are before making the decision to go in front of camera and pose nude. Now that is my opinion and I have said that for many years. This industry can be a cruel one from Producers to Fans of it. So you have to have a very thick skin to make it through this! Trust me I KNOW! I prob have heard no more so than any other girl in this business and I am still doing my thing. But I am older and comfortable with my body and who I am.