17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?

hate to bring Bill Cosby into this, but...

http://news.yahoo.com/bill-cosby-bre...rtainment.html

Bill Cosby is one of the only sane black voices in America today. I know you HATE to quote him, but thank God he is assured enough in his own skin to tell the truth about society today.

Let's face it...the only black morality today was taught by the family and especially by the fathers. Has anyone seen the stats on black fatherhood lately? Probably not from the liberal press.

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

hate to bring Bill Cosby into this, but...

Bill Cosby is one of the only sane black voices in America today. I know you HATE to quote him, but thank God he is assured enough in his own skin to tell the truth about society today....

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Bill Cosby Breaks Silence on Trayvon Martin

By LUCHINA FISHER (@luchina)
April 9, 2012

Bill Cosby has weighed in on the Trayvon Martin case.

The famed comedian told the Washington Times that neighborhood watch volunteers like George Zimmerman, who shot and killed the unarmed black teenager, should not be allowed to carry guns.

"We've got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch," Cosby said in his first public remarks about the case, published today.

"Without a gun, I don't see Mr. Zimmerman approaching Trayvon by himself," Cosby added. "The power-of-the-gun mentality had him unafraid to confront someone. Even police call for backup in similar situations.

"When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody."

"The Cosby Show" star's remarks were immediately circulated on the Web, including conservative sites that took issue with Cosby's pinpointing "the gun" as the problem.

Bill Cosby's son was tragically shot to death.

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Originally Posted by buttslinger

Let's put aside your imagination a minute. The justice system let Zimmerman walk out the door. Without even a court date appearance. Am I right, Whiteman?

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Imagination has nothing to do with it, girly man. Facts do. And you're short on facts as usual. When he is arrested, and it seems likely he will be.....I guess we can expect you'll start a thread saying justice delayed is not necessarily justice denied, and that you were wrong. The justice system let OJ and Casey Anthony off...so what the fuck's your point ? That it's perfect?
And BTW...unless every spell check I looked at is wrong......white man is two words........dummy. You got a problem with that? lmao

zimmerman in hiding--NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1412693.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501366_1...bsite-is-real/

NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/562237/thu...RMAN-large.jpg


A number of websites have come forward claiming to collect financial support for George Zimmerman’s legal fees.

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TOP POST VERY IMPORTANT!



The voice heard crying for help on a 911 call just before Trayvon Martin was shot to death was not that of George Zimmerman, according to two forensic voice identification experts, one of whom told MSNBC on Sunday that he believes the evidence is strong enough to use in court.

"The tests concluded that it's not the voice of Mr. Zimmerman," Tom Owen, of Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, told MSNBC.
Asked if he thought such tests would be admissible in court, Owen said "yes" and noted he had recently used similar testing in testimony at a Connecticut murder case that involved 911 call.
The conclusions of Owen and another audio expert were first reported by the Orlando Sentinel on Saturday.
Zimmerman told police that he screamed for help during his confrontation with Martin, 17. He claims the shooting was self-defense.
The 911 call, reposted in this YouTube clip, came on the night of Feb. 26 from a woman who reported someone crying out for help in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.
In the recording of her phone call, panicked cries and a gunshot are heard.

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NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

You got a problem with that?

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Well, Whiteman, every police detective in the united states knew OJ did it,
And, Whiteman, every police detective in the united states knew Casey Anthony did it,
And Whiteman, Every police detective in the united states thinks your boy Zimmerman should have been arrested that night.

They say the RIGHT's new hero ain't doin too good. He may not cut it in the slam.

notice NO BRUISES ON George Zimmerman's FACE AS HE APPEARS IN THE PRISON ISSUE OF CLOTHES


A number of websites have come forward claiming to collect financial support for George Zimmerman’s legal fees.
THE CHILD WAS THE ONE YELLING FOR HELP NOT ZIMMERMAN


Zimmermann previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer with Violence



According to a records search on George, George M. Zimmermann was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.

All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that’s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer. Or maybe is it because Zimmerman’s father is a retired judge hence the three dropped and why the state attorney’s office decided not to press charges?


http://colorlines.com/assets_c/2012/...xauto-5674.jpg

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zimmerman in hiding--NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1412693.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501366_1...bsite-is-real/

NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/562237/thu...RMAN-large.jpg


A number of websites have come forward claiming to collect financial support for George Zimmerman’s legal fees.



NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE

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http://colorlines.com/assets_c/2012/...xauto-5674.jpg

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notice NO BRUISES ON George Zimmerman's FACE AS HE APPEARS IN THE PRISON ISSUE OF CLOTHES
NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE
NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE
NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE
NOTICE! NO BRUISES ON HIS FACE

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...& on & on & on ad nauseum...

Of course there's no bruises. That's an old picture.

Go catch up to reality.

NO BRUISES HERE EITHER

New Evidence Contradicts Zimmerman’s Claim of a Violent Fight With Trayvon Martin

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17i5...jpg/medium.jpg

While George Zimmerman still has not been charged in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, his public defense — as espoused by his lawyer and family members — rests on the fact that Zimmerman was involved in a physical altercation with Martin. New evidence, however, contradicts that version of events. First there was the security camera footage from the night Zimmerman claims Martin beat him senselessly: to most who watched the video, Zimmerman appeared unscathed.
Now Richard Kurtz, the Miami funeral director who examined Trayvon Martin's body, says the body "showed no signs of a violent brawl."


We could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle [or] there had been a fight. The hands — I didn't see any knuckles, bruises or what have you, and that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there.
In the strongest statement issued, Kurtz says Trayvon Martin "looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see." CBS has Funeral director on Trayvon Martin's lack of injuries - CBS News Video of the interview with Kurtz.
Furthermore, EMS documents obtained by the New York Daily News Friday indicate that a second ambulance was canceled. It had been called for the "second victim" who was "not a gunshot." Whatever injuries Zimmerman did sustain in the apparent fight must not have been sufficient to merit emergency medical response.


http://gawker.com/5898036/new-eviden...trayvon-martin
QUOTE=hippifried;1121928]...& on & on & on ad nauseum...

Of course there's no bruises. That's an old picture.

Go catch up to reality.[/QUOTE]

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When he is arrested, and it seems likely he will be.

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If Zimmerman is ever taken in for proper interrogation it will only be because of the public outrage and the light being shone on this incident. The police clearly thought this would go away and never see the light of day. They were content to let Zimmerman walk with his gun on the lame excuse that he thought his life was in danger.

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I guess we can expect you'll start a thread saying justice delayed is not necessarily justice denied, and that you were wrong.

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It's true that justice delayed is not NECESSARILY justice denied...if you ignore the extended pain and suffering of Trayvon's family...and you ignore the injustice of living under SYG which allows this sort of miscarriage to occur. But there is also more to justice than a thorough interrogation of the shooter. There needs also to be thorough investigation of the evidence, and it's already too late for that. Neighbors should've been questioned while their memories were fresh, the scene should have been swept by a forensics team before it was contaminated, Zimmerman should have search for evidence of defensive wounds etc. No. It's too late for real justice. If Zimmerman is guilty of murder, it's probably too late already to determine that beyond a reasonable doubt. If Zimmerman is innocent, it's probably too late to determine that in the court of popular opinion. But I'll applaud if Trayvon's family get their optimal share of justice under the law and if Zimmerman gets his fair and optimal share of justice under the law.

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Originally Posted by buttslinger

Well, Whiteman, every police detective in the united states knew OJ did it,
And, Whiteman, every police detective in the united states knew Casey Anthony did it,
And Whiteman, Every police detective in the united states thinks your boy Zimmerman should have been arrested that night.

They say the RIGHT's new hero ain't doin too good. He may not cut it in the slam.

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I love that comic book. Great stuff. lol

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

hate to bring Bill Cosby into this, but...

http://news.yahoo.com/bill-cosby-bre...rtainment.html

Bill Cosby is one of the only sane black voices in America today. I know you HATE to quote him, but thank God he is assured enough in his own skin to tell the truth about society today.

Let's face it...the only black morality today was taught by the family and especially by the fathers. Has anyone seen the stats on black fatherhood lately? Probably not from the liberal press.

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"You hate to quote him"? Who? Point out a person/people if you're going to make such claims. Who hates to quote Bill Cosby? I'm black and I agree with what Bill Cosby said about social issues. My family and a lot of other black people I know personally agree with the things that Bill has said. Why are you under the assumption that virtually all, or at least a downright huge amount, of black people don't care about living well, being honest, etc, and would rather soak up the stuff that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton talk about as opposed to what Cosby has talked about? Stereotype much? Not all black people are super liberal to the point of not having a sane voice. I happen to be a registered Libertarian. I'm also an ATHEIST. What did you think I was? A Baptist Democrat, just because I'm black? You CONTINUE to embarrass yourself every time you open your damn mouth.

I'm also still waiting for you, and mildcigar, to finally go through puberty and develop the testicular fortitude to answer the questions I have specifically directed towards the both of you.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...&postcount=504

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...&postcount=464

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...&postcount=392

You have both refused to respond/comment/answer. Instead, you go about using inflammatory comments directed towards other posters on the forum, or blurting out random nonsensical bullshit, and then of course that backfires, and you continue to make yourselves look like trolling asshats.

What was the question again?

Are you rabble-rousers disappointed that the justice system is working now that Zimmerman has been charged?

He has to go to jail, it is 2012 and the system should advance!

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Originally Posted by yourdaddy

What was the question again?

Are you rabble-rousers disappointed that the justice system is working now that Zimmerman has been charged?

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Not at all. I said as much right here. http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...&postcount=530 Do you ever the evidence peruse before you accuse?

According to an article I just read (AND I'M NOT STATING THIS IS FACT), Trayvon was visiting a friend who lived in the gated community...

http://theredphoenixapl.org/2012/04/...efore-gunshot/

It popped up in a Google search...

Will be interesting to see what the charges are.

In the meantime the same Prosecutor, Angela Corey is going to put a 12 year old boy on trial as an adult -he assaulted his brother who died from a fractured skull and internal bleeding -when his mother returned home she put an ice pack on his head and spent two hours checking the condition on the internet before taking the child to hospital where he died 2 days later. If convicted the boy will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Ever think you might want to engage in penal reform in the USA? Your prison population was 380,000 in 1980, its now over 2 million...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...deal-unlikely/

Trayvon was at his father's condo in the gated community watching a b-ball game. The story is I believe he went to get a drink and candy for himself and stepbrother. Zimmerman followed him home after he left the 7-Eleven.

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Will be interesting to see what the charges are.

In the meantime the same Prosecutor, Angela Corey is going to put a 12 year old boy on trial as an adult -he assaulted his brother who died from a fractured skull and internal bleeding -when his mother returned home she put an ice pack on his head and spent two hours checking the condition on the internet before taking the child to hospital where he died 2 days later. If convicted the boy will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Ever think you might want to engage in penal reform in the USA? Your prison population was 380,000 in 1980, its now over 2 million...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...deal-unlikely/

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Incarcerating people and having it subsidized by the government is BIG BUSINESS.

There won't be any major reforms to the criminal justice system until we start emptying max security facilities because of overcrowding.

FINALLY!!

Arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder.

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What was the question again?

Are you rabble-rousers disappointed that the justice system is working now that Zimmerman has been charged?

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I think the real question is, are you disappointed? Will you be disappointed if he goes to jail and gets buttfucked by some big, angry black men?

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Originally Posted by buttslinger

Well, Whiteman, every police detective in the united states knew OJ did it,
And, Whiteman, every police detective in the united states knew Casey Anthony did it,
And Whiteman, Every police detective in the united states thinks your boy Zimmerman should have been arrested that night.

They say the RIGHT's new hero ain't doin too good. He may not cut it in the slam.

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You're a race baiting moron...probably way too ignorant to even waste a reply on, but unlike some....I believe even the woefully dumbest among us should be confronted, and shown to be what they are.


We speak about facts.....so now the balls in your court shithead...go back and find one word, one sentence where I led you to believe Zimmerman was "my boy". In fact, I believe in one post I specifically said it's no skin off my ass if he's indicted.....my point was to let the professionals do their work, but idiots like you watch purposely edited tapes, and base your equally idiotic posts on misinformation. How could a guy who tells us he went to one of the major universities in the country be so ill equipped to discuss much of anything? This is what people like you do.....you're too dumb to argue merits, so you poison and pollute the dialogue with emotional nonsense. You're an intellectual lightweight. So now you can celebrate the arrest and we can all get back to peace, love and in your case............ignorance. And in the end....yup...I'm a white man, and you're a dumb man. In fact...you're no brighter today then when you got behind the wheel plastered and put everyone else in danger....lmao Carry on Einstein

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

He has to go to jail, it is 2012 and the system should advance!

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The system should advance. What does that mean? What if the facts come out that he did shoot Trayvon in self-defense. You think that in that circumstance the jury should nonetheless convict him so as to advance the system?

POW....charged with 2nd degree murder...all these arguments are pointless now

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Originally Posted by hangman

The system should advance. What does that mean? What if the facts come out that he did shoot Trayvon in self-defense. You think that in that circumstance the jury should nonetheless convict him so as to advance the system?

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Prove it in court.

I'd rather call a bunch of jurists idiots than believe law enforcement is corrupt.
When you shoot an unarmed kid that you were following and call it self-defense, you need to be arrested on GP.

If you are found not guilty after the fact, so be it.

Im sorrry but if a 6 foot something blk man starts hitting me and I have a gun...id do the same

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Originally Posted by giovanni_hotel

Prove it in court.
When you shoot an unarmed kid that you were following and call it self-defense, you need to be arrested on GP.

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Well, when you put it like that I agree with you. However, I suspect that there is a lot more to the story than him merely shooting an unarmed kid that he was following.

We all know that because of the political pressure there is no way the State was not going to arrest and charge him.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

You're a race baiting moron...probably way too ignorant to even waste a reply on, but unlike some....I believe even the woefully dumbest among us should be confronted, and shown to be what they are.


We speak about facts.....so now the balls in your court shithead...go back and find one word, one sentence where I led you to believe Zimmerman was "my boy". In fact, I believe in one post I specifically said it's no skin off my ass if he's indicted.....my point was to let the professionals do their work, but idiots like you watch purposely edited tapes, and base your equally idiotic posts on misinformation. How could a guy who tells us he went to one of the major universities in the country be so ill equipped to discuss much of anything? This is what people like you do.....you're too dumb to argue merits, so you poison and pollute the dialogue with emotional nonsense. You're an intellectual lightweight. So now you can celebrate the arrest and we can all get back to peace, love and in your case............ignorance. And in the end....yup...I'm a white man, and you're a dumb man. In fact...you're no brighter today then when you got behind the wheel plastered and put everyone else in danger....lmao Carry on Einstein

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This whole diatribe is an exercise in poisoning and polluting the dialogue. Thanks for being an extreme example of what you're ranting against. But then this is what people like you do.

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Originally Posted by onmyknees

And in the end....yup...I'm a white man, and you're a dumb man.

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You approach me on the street with your self-appointed gestapo shit and watch what happens. You'll be on the ground crying, just like your boy, Zimmerman. LMAO Think hard, now, onmyknees, were your parents redneck rascists? LMAO

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You approach me on the street with your self-appointed gestapo shit and watch what happens. You'll be on the ground crying, just like your boy, Zimmerman. LMAO Think hard, now, onmyknees, were your parents redneck rascists? LMAO

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Would you still do it if you knew that he might have a gun?

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This whole diatribe is an exercise in poisoning and polluting the dialogue. Thanks for being an extreme example of what you're ranting against. But then this is what people like you do.

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Eat me. Then go find where I called Zimmerman my boy or in anyway defended him and not the process. You can join your buddy butt head in that search.... The thought that I'd sympathize with someone based simply on the fact of half his race sounds much closer to your M.O. than mine. You think I'm going to let people like you and that other moron misrepresent what I said, and laugh it off or not respond? You'll defend anybody that takes issue with me...that's pretty funny actually. What's that say about you? lol My diatribe as you call it....came only after his race baiting and misrepresentation....surely you can figure that out...can't you?

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Would you still do it if you knew that he might have a gun?

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No, I'd get his license plate number and come back with my gun.

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Im sorrry but if a 6 foot something blk man starts hitting me and I have a gun...id do the same

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You do know that never happened in this situation right, the black BOY not MAN was innocent..

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Then go find where I called Zimmerman my boy or in anyway defended him and not the process.

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Why should I? Go to where I called him "your boy." I only saying your diatribe is prime example of what it accuses others of posting. Surely you can figure that out, can't you?

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You do know that never happened in this situation right, the black BOY not MAN was innocent..

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I'm not saying that Trayvon was not innocent, but how do you KNOW that he was innocent?

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I'm not saying that Trayvon was not innocent, but how do you KNOW that he was innocent?

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Well, evidence I gathered from the investigators indicate to me that he was innocent. Zimmerman has been caught in lies after lies after contradictions... He lost his credibility.

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Originally Posted by EvonRose

Well, evidence I gathered from the investigators indicate to me that he was innocent. Zimmerman has been caught in lies after lies after contradictions... He lost his credibility.

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You have gathered evidence?

If you haven't gathered evidence and have only read accounts I have done that too. And, I still have no idea what exactly happened. I don't believe that Zimmerman has been quoted by any reporter. I think that the only words that have been said to have come from Zimmerman were actually attributed to him by third persons speaking to reporters. Anyone who relies on those statements does so at their peril.

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You have gathered evidence?

If you haven't gathered evidence and have only read accounts I have done that too. And, I still have no idea what exactly happened. I don't believe that Zimmerman has been quoted by any reporter. I think that the only words that have been said to have come from Zimmerman were actually attributed to him by third persons speaking to reporters. Anyone who relies on those statements does so at their peril.

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it does not take mch to realize that Zimmerman instigated the whole thing...

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it does not take mch to realize that Zimmerman instigated the whole thing...

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You clearly are inclined to "realize" that Zimmerman instigated the whole thing but you don't KNOW it. You have no idea whether Zimmerman abandoned his pursuit of Trayvon. You have no idea who spoke to whom first. You have no idea who made the first aggressive move. You have no idea who initiated the physical altercation. You have no knowledge of any of this. Let's hope for every American's sake that each member of the jury is more fair-minded than you are.

he got his trial by media and it's murder not even manslaughter. wow