The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything

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Originally Posted by Jamie Michelle

Hi, Stavros. Your reading comprehension is extremely low, such as to be functionally illiterate. That the universe is mathematics is simply an unavoidable consequence of the Bekenstein Bound, which itself is required by the known laws of physics. And I even have an appendix on the Bekenstein Bound. So your above claim is not only nonsensical, but also nihil ad rem.

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Jamie, I have commented on your paper; I have drawn attention to the distortions of historical fact, the absurd interpretations, the contradictions, and have done so on more than one occasion. Your response has been to go back over my critique again and again and to insist that whatever I have said is wrong, because you are right. You have not produced original research, you have read some books and articles and given them your own spin, that is not research where I come from, but you are entitled to your own opinion of history, politics, religion, economics, and anything else, and you are welcome to post your opinions on HungAngels.

I see no evidence that you enjoy debating issues, and for that reason I do not think there is any point in trying to engage me in an intellectual discussion.

Government is a Death Cult? Religion murdered people long before we even HAD government....
If God doesn't exist the only option is suicide? So you mean to tell me that if God was disproved tomorrow,Christians would just off themselves? The thing that bothers me with this is that they're just people....and people don't really throw themselves in front of a bus without a good reason (ill conceived or otherwise).God not existing would have an effect on SOME,sure,but most people would continue to live life by the rules they believe in. The 10 commandments don't become invalid just because the guy that said them first turned out to be JUST some guy....

If the Bible is to be believed then God is the biggest murderer of them all....
There were Pagan Gods before him,according to the Bible. He sought to convert all people to the worship of Himself. He struck down any who opposed him and even used to accept sacrifices according to Old Testament.
The Bible even states that all life,save what was contained on the Ark,was wiped from the Earth. Were that true,we are all inbred. If the Bible is to be believed there were never dinosaurs, Ice Ages,or cavemen. Considering that God made animals so shortly before humans,that is. If the Bible is so truthful why did it take so long for it to be recorded? Why wait until Jesus walked the Earth and died to have the stories collected and written? I'm certain that you'll think I missed the point entirely but the fact is that there are so many loopholes for such a "perfect being" that it just isn't possible in my eyes.... Just my two cents on it....

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Originally Posted by Prospero

Bravo Stavros... you are clearly an honourable guy and I am flabbergasted at the amount of time and thought you have applied to this person's flimsy ideas. All you get back are insults and a re-iteration of the initial maniacal twist on science.

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Thanks for your comment, Prospero. Jamie has made a great effort to put something together and invite comment, but then refuses to engage in any sensible discussion, which is what most people writing academic papers want, and which is why you often read acknowledgements to that effect at the beginning of books and articles. To abuse people who disagree with what you say is a fatal weakness, it kills debate.

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Originally Posted by Jamie Michelle

As I indicated previously, I have genius-level writing skills. But that's because I have an IQ that is genius-level (according to the researchers at the University of Texas at Austin who conducted my IQ tests). That doesn't mean I never make mistakes in writing, but it does mean that my writing level is exceedingly high.

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this quote proves otherwise:

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Originally Posted by Jamie Michelle

The 9/11 attacks are a conspiracy since more than one person was involved in bringing them about. So any theory regarding the 9/11 attacks is by definiton a conspiracy theory, unless one were to maintain that only one person was involved in carrying them out. It's just that the US government's official conspiracy theory is a mendacious, self-serving, anti-historical, antiphysical law, anti-factual, and provably false fairy tale.

Regarding not addressing counter-arguments, I did address them, such as NIST's antiphysical suggestion that the yellow-hot molten metal that cascaded off the South Tower was burning organic materials entrained in molten aluminum.

Concerning the 9/11 event outside of New York City, it's only logically necessary to demonstrate that the US government was involved in executing one or more of the attacks that day. Even if one were to implausibly maintain that the US government wasn't involved in the other 9/11 attacks that day, the US government is still guilty of mass-murdering its own subjects on 9/11.

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your : "I'm smarter than you" way of thinking that since you got your IQ tests , only shows that you stopped thinking clearly since than , it's your huge ego that thinks , not you.

some of your conclusions here are a pure insult to inteligence, including presenting your IQ tests to prove that you are right.

the word history is actualy a short of : his story , think why I bothered to mention it .........

All I know is that IF God exists,he has made MANY mistakes,is not perfect,and hides almost all of himself away from the people he supposedly loves.
If he is omnipotent,then he knew what Satan would become,and actually planned it that way,to keep a certain degree of fear in people. That alone is some serious mental abuse. How did the serpent gain access to the garden without him being aware of it? He didn't,it was planned,as was the end of Eden.
Who gives a gift and then forces you to take it away from yourself? What Benevolent Creator would wipe all life from existence, but for a select few,when he gave everyone free will to do whatever? The Old Testament is all about a vengeful,follow me or die God. The New is a sudden change from that. So God is Bipolar? More likely that if he is real he is responsible for just as much evil as good,and people are just candy coating it and changing the story to suit themselves. They keep telling me God is everywhere and everything....I keep telling them that that also means God is Satan and God is evil. If all things come from God then God is all things. Not whatever you decide sounds better and makes him look good. Also that means that saying I am God is not a sin....I'm not lying if he is real. I was made in his image and given his power to create human life...and I am part of him...IF it is true.

Hi Jamie,
I looked up the definition of the word "previous" because I saw your argument with Trish. The sources I looked at list it as meaning occurring some time before, but not necessarily directly before. In other words, it is a previous question if it occurred prior to the point at which you refer to it as previous. So when Trish referred to her previous question, it wasn't specific, and could have referred to any question she's asked prior to that point in time. However, she re-asked the question, which was pretty specific.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/preceding

Hi Jamie,
here is the merriam webster dictionary entry for preceding, which is what I think you confused with previous. In the synonym section as you scroll down there is a sort of disambiguation referencing previous as well.

"preceding usually implies being immediately before in time or in place"

"previous and prior imply existing or occurring earlier, but prior often adds an implication of greater importance".

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Originally Posted by Chaos

All I know is that IF God exists,he has made MANY mistakes,is not perfect,and hides almost all of himself away from the people he supposedly loves.
If he is omnipotent,then he knew what Satan would become,and actually planned it that way,to keep a certain degree of fear in people. That alone is some serious mental abuse. How did the serpent gain access to the garden without him being aware of it? He didn't,it was planned,as was the end of Eden.
Who gives a gift and then forces you to take it away from yourself? What Benevolent Creator would wipe all life from existence, but for a select few,when he gave everyone free will to do whatever? The Old Testament is all about a vengeful,follow me or die God. The New is a sudden change from that. So God is Bipolar? More likely that if he is real he is responsible for just as much evil as good,and people are just candy coating it and changing the story to suit themselves. They keep telling me God is everywhere and everything....I keep telling them that that also means God is Satan and God is evil. If all things come from God then God is all things. Not whatever you decide sounds better and makes him look good. Also that means that saying I am God is not a sin....I'm not lying if he is real. I was made in his image and given his power to create human life...and I am part of him...IF it is true.

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Spot on common sense and science dictates that the universe is made up of equals and opposites, positives and negatives it is what it is and anything omnipotent is all of that, otherwise it could not be so if it was not all so, so that is your God/Satan Jamie read it and weep.

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Originally Posted by yosi

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your : "I'm smarter than you" way of thinking that since you got your IQ tests , only shows that you stopped thinking clearly since than , it's your huge ego that thinks , not you.

some of your conclusions here are a pure insult to inteligence, including presenting your IQ tests to prove that you are right.

the word history is actualy a short of : his story , think why I bothered to mention it .........

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Any Idiot can train themselves to take IQ tests and get high scores have done it myself when I was being a sad git, does that make me smart based on these shitty tests I think not, being smart is way more than intelligent quotient tests can test for, so it shows how smart you really are Jamie and that's saying if I even believe you have a genius level IQ which I don't.

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Originally Posted by Stavros

Jamie has made a great effort to put something together and invite comment, but then refuses to engage in any sensible discussion, which is what most people writing academic papers want

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This is very true! I have tried to have a sensible discussion with Jamie on theological grounds, you have primarily on historical, and Trish has on the physics (among with other contributers to this thread).

Jamie refuses to answer these concerns with anything other than insults and reiterations of what we were already questioning in the first place. I have lost count of the number of times Jamie has spammed out the page with references rather than attempt to actually answer our questions.

Jamie is a joke. Whether she is technically a genius because of her IQ is completely irrelevant; she is a total fool!