Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
When I read something like this: A few people died... So what?, I wonder if there is anything more to say about your eccentric views of government, the state, democracy and those pests known as people. I could also add I think it is a disgraceful thing to say about a fire that could have been, should have been prevented.
As for your remark
I never said i dismiss the work of scientists that researched global warming. I only dismiss the nonsense propaganda about human beings being the main cause of global warming... Similarly, since nobody has proven that global warming is caused by humans, it probably isn't.
The New York Times reports today:
Directly contradicting much of the Trump administration’s position on climate change, 13 federal agencies unveiled an exhaustive scientific report on Friday that says humans are the dominant cause of the global temperature rise that has created the warmest period in the history of civilization.
I suggest you back up your own claims with a report of your own. It will make interesting reading, for those who still read.
Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
How can a federal agency unveil scientific reports? Did they pass those in a voting or something? Scientific reports should be done by scientists, not a bunch of charlatans from the government.
People are not pests. Most of officials are. If lives matter so much then how come ISIS which attacked France and the USA (allegedly the most powerful country on Earth) still exists? That is exactly what you get when a greedy state minds its own business rather than taking care of the people who it should be looking after.
Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
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Ts RedVeX
How can a federal agency unveil scientific reports? Did they pass those in a voting or something? Scientific reports should be done by scientists, not a bunch of charlatans from the government.
https://science2017.globalchange.gov/credits/
I can go through the list and document their credentials as researchers and professors, as well as their academic credentials. It would take quite a long time but I'm not even sure if you believe the nonsense you're spouting.
Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
They ,"unveiled the scientific reports " because "they" are the ones who paid the scientists to do the research .
They being we the taxpayers .:banghead
Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
not a single Ph. D. or M. Sc. or Professor in that list.. not even a single M.A.
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Ts RedVeX
not a single Ph. D. or M. Sc. or Professor in that list.. not even a single M.A.
I picked three names at random from the list, here are the results:
Wiesław Masłowski is a research professor at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California since 2009. He obtained his MS from the University of Gdańsk in 1987,[1] and his PhD from the University of Alaska, Fairbanks in 1994, with a dissertation entitled Numerical modeling study of the circulation of the Greenland Sea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wies%C...Mas%C5%82owski
David Easterling is currently Chief of the Scientific Services Division at NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, NC. He received his Ph.D. from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1987 and served as an Assistant Professor in the Climate and Meteorology Program, Department of Geography, Indiana University-Bloomington from 1987 to 1990. In 1990 he moved to the National Climatic Data Center as a research scientist, was appointed Principal Scientist in 1999, and Chief of Scientific Services in 2002. He has authored or co-authored more than sixty research articles in journals such as Science, Nature and the Journal of Climate.
https://www.agci.org/redhen/contact/1287
Donald Wuebbles
- Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, University of California at Davis, 1983
- M.S. Electrical Engineering, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 1972
- B.S. Electrical Engineering, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 1970
- Donald J. Wuebbles is the Harry E. Preble Professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Illinois where he has been since 1994. He is also a Presidential Fellow at the University of Illinois, with the aim of helping the university system develop new initiatives in urban sustainability. From 2015 to early 2017, Dr. Wuebbles was Assistant Director with the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the Executive Office of the President in Washington DC.
- https://www.atmos.illinois.edu/cms/O...&pageId=151986
Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
I cannot see any degrees in the list so we must be talking about different people.
Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species
Before you start ranting about my ignorance I would like you to read the report, which clearly states in the introduction that:
"The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Over the last century, there are no alternative explanations supported by the evidence that are either credible or that can contribute more than marginally to the observed patterns. There is no convincing evidence that natural variability can account for the amount of and the pattern of global warming observed over the industrial era."
Which means the whole report is a load of crap as they haven't determined the real cause of global warming, they concluded that one can assume humans cause global warming.
Well, I can assume that this is because the government would't fund any other Panels that would actually determine what causes global warming for whatever mystery-reason... The introduction sounds like it's been written by some communist as well, not a scientist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiLVDQ4VhoE
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Ts RedVeX
I cannot see any degrees in the list so we must be talking about different people.
Which people then are you referring to, because it is not the people identified in this link from Broncofan's post above-
https://science2017.globalchange.gov/credits/
Before you start ranting about my ignorance
-I have not ranted or even suggested you are ignorant, merely hinted that you might want to spend more time doing some research on the scientists producing the report than you do posting opinions which you are entitled to believe, but which are not supported either by the science we do have, or the science you are reluctant to tell us gives a different explanation for climate change and global warming.
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Ts RedVeX
not a single Ph. D. or M. Sc. or Professor in that list.. not even a single M.A.
See Stavros' post above. I had the same result with every name I looked up, which was about eight of them. If you read my post, I said it would take a while to compile their academic credentials. That wouldn't be the case if their credentials were listed right there on the link.
You don't think it says anything about your entire approach that you would see a list like that, make an unfounded claim, and not even be cautious enough to verify it?
