Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
hard4janira
I'm laughing. Out loud, in fact.
You're laughing out loud because you don't know and have no answer for, I knew it!!!
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I say this because public education is free. Libraries are free (funded by taxpayers) and yet I do not see many black people taking advantage of the opportunities available to them. Many blacks do not value education. It is not a virtue passed down or enforced (partly because the family unit within many black families is non-existant). It's all about the street-cred.
Are you kidding me? There are plenty of African descent people using libraries. Again we are not BLACK PEOPLE!!! Get that through your thick skull!!!
You are pompous, you let a few African americans that are on the wrong path make you think MANY are on the wrong path and it's just the opposite!!! Who told you African descent people don't value education? The most ruthless gang banger values education and love!!! You have been watching way to many Yo MTV Cribs and BET shows talking about street cred!!! My word!!!!
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Nothing wrong with immigrants - what are you trying to say? Why did blacks start losing thier communites and businesses? You didn't tie the two together although you implied there is some connection.
Now I see why you think so poorly. Where in my debate did I say anything is wrong with immigrants? I stated they come here and get benefits faster than the honest African descent person that's been here for years can get. You asked me what am I trying to say? LOL :dead: What I have already said, in plain English you figure it out. I already told you why and when African descent people lost their communities, do you read? smh
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Probably very few.
Oh dam you say that so nonchalantly like it ain't no thang that there are innocent African descent people in jail.
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AND there are blacks preying on other races too like those two grad students who were murdered at USC (but that's OK, it's just 'gang violence') nothing 'racist' here right? Let's get back to busting Zimmermans balls....
That's not cool that they did that, and I hope they get caught and face the penalty. But for years African descent people been killing their own, old timers use to tell them "GO OUT AND TAKE FROM WHITEY STOP TAKING FROM YOUR OWN WHO HAVE NOTHING", so I guess it's coming home to roost just now. But is it right? Nope, I don't agree with it. But you didn't say nothing about these Police gangs that kill African descent people on the reg, and you won't say nothing. You could care less!!!
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Asians cook and eat nasty, unhealthy food? JEEZ, Let's not get racist here... If you look hard enough you can find a lot of healhty things to eat on an Asian menu... IF YOU LOOK. Funny that you mention it, I dont think traditional 'black' food is very healthy. I mean for fuck sake is there anything you don't deep fry? Why is adult onset diabetes so prevelent among minorities? What do you really know about nasty, unhealthy food you just blamed on asians?
LOL, :dead: Lets deal with this, you said LETS NOT GET RACIST, tell me what the original definition from the old dictionary of what racism is. As an African descent person I can never be racist, I can prejudge, and hate, but to be racist, do you even know what that really entails? So tell me what is racism.
Now for the FACT that I said those Chinese and Korean shops in the hood are nasty IT'S A FACT!!! Especially in the 5 boroughs I have been. I don't know how they do that shit in the Ukraine or wherever the hell you're from but the shops in New York are nasty and unhealthy!!! I'm not eating at those shops. Now, I can tell the difference from a Chinese cuisine shop down in lower Manhattan from one that's in the hood like Harlem or BK. Their shops are cleaner and their food is put together better than the ones in the hood, how do I know? EXPERIENCE!!! I stopped eating at those shops when I got conscious of what the hell is going on. What I present is fact if I didn't then it would be just pure rhetoric. The food is supper greasy, they use the same frying oil over and over, roaches and cats out in the open, and you're going to tell me that's ok? Hell outta here with that. Now if you read what the hell I said I said they cook for us one way and they eat another way, they don't even eat what they cook for us, they eat healthy, so what that tell you? Ask anyone who lives in NYC they know they don't eat the food they cook for us. You would think they would because they are serving the food but they don't, many times I have watched them eat, and I would clock when they would go to lunch and dinner come down and monitor what they eat and they don't eat that fried shit they serve to my people or Hispanic people.
Now I agree there, African descent people don't eat healthy, one because they lost site, two the nasty meats they sell on the market are filled with disease, and injected with female hormones and all types of variables. I don't eat red meat, I don't drink milk, I don't fuck with pig, I deal with veggie food, organic foods, lots of fruits and vegetables, fish, and kosher chicken. I dare not touch that chicken in supermarkets. See I have so much fucking knowledge on shit, if I was to write what I knew, HA would fucking shut down!!!
Now let me take your ass on a history hike because you need one. In Africa before the Caucasian Europeans took African slaves and brought them here, our diet was fantastic, we didn't eat pork, if we ate meat we would fast to clean the system, lots of water and grains and protein and we mostly were lean and muscular.
Got here the slave owners had a plan to take away our culture, deities, dietary methods, family, music, language etc. There was a plan to cut the AFrican family and divide the woman against the man, and I won't go into details, they broke us just like they did horses. At this time we didn't have ownership of food, the slave owners gave my people what they wanted to give them and a big deal of it was pork!!! I can break the science of that filthy animal down but I don't need to unless asked to. Slave owners who were Caucasian fed slaves grits and pork. Now some of the slaves wouldn't eat the pork so the slave owners starved them, so what do you think they did when they were starved and then offered the pork? They ate it to stay alive. Then as time went on African slaves mastered the art of cooking and seasoning pork and it became an American dish. Now today it's hard to get my people off it, unless you are a Muslim or a African descent Hebrew Israelite Falasha Jew or like me who have Afro-centricity and won't put up with the bullshit. My people eat meat to much, and do it back to back, not to much exercise like back in the day and don't fast enough nor drink enough water. African descent people are messed up in diabetes, high blood tension, high blood pressure, cancer, colon cancer more than Caucasians. And continuing eating out of these fast food places such as McDonalds and Chinese restaurants is no help. I can go on and on, but by now I hope you get it.
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Yes, lets boycott immigrants. That's not fucking racist (rolling eyes)
Are you crazy? Or just Looney mixed with insaneism? Yeah I made up that word because it's just as crazy as you are. You said lets boycott immigrants, where did I say boycott immigrants? Show me? I said boycott those in the communities that don't hire us or give poor service and I gave you specific names, there are Arabs who hire African descent people, so call Jew, Italians etc. So when you say immigrants YOU ARE GENERALIZING and trying to catch me out there. I have been trained to watch words of art and you can't do that with me, you can't play dialectic acrobatics with me, try that shit with someone else. I gave you again specifically who I said and you took it to be general. So roll your eyes at yourself for trying to be slick.
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Statistics have shown that spending more on education doesn't translate into results. America spends far more per capital on education that almost every other nation in the world yet ranks 23
I won't even go into this deeply I think I typed enough. Again do you read the shit you say? Every time there is a cut, it's on education, so how the hell do they spend? Teachers are not paid well enough.......ahhh fuck it, China is laughing at the US, Japan is laughing at the USA they even made commercials laughing and saying how stupid Americans are.
But it's funny ass hell though they spending hella money on INSTITUTIONAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES let me simplify that for you MORE PRISONS!!! But money for education that will help prevent people from going to jail and making Jobs for people in America seems a waste of time. SMH
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One final comment... If OJ was acquited given the evidense stacked up against him, Zimmerman should not only walk - they should give him a 200 dollar Norstroms gift card for his troubles.
And you try to call me a racist? LOL :dead::dead::dead: LOL Fucking unbelievable!!!
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
[quote=hard4janira;1144452]
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Originally Posted by
jamesedwards
Nobody ever said that, so it shouldn't lead you do to anything.
Do you honestly have to ask that question? What planet do you live on? Blacks are profiled so much more than other races because they commit a vastly disproportionate amount of crime given their % of the overall population...
Next....
I am living on Planet earth, in New York City. The planet you're living on must be on Nibiru!!! The second star to the fucking left!!!
While we are being profiled there's someone of another race getting by with drugs or guns lol figure that shit out.
It’s a legitimate question–widely debated and honestly, difficult to answer. Making matters more difficult, many statistics gathered on the topic appear to have been compiled with underlying motives based on what the researcher wanted to find.
One also has to make sure to find percentages as opposed to outright numbers, since the U.S. is a predominantly Caucasian owned and ran country. Numbers without respect to each race’s population are relatively useless.
AND I WILL END IT WITH THAT!!!
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
There's no point arguing with hard5janira. He for some reason believes the majority of Black people in this country represent a criminal, degenerate underclass, as if 75% Black Americans are a part of a criminal class in this country.
It would help this cat if he actually did RESEARCH to get some numbers behind his racist screeds, that way he might learning something instead of regurgitating right wing propaganda, but hey why let truth get in the way when you're on a roll.
Why is OJ brought up in relation to the Trayvon murder??? When is justice supposed to be about 'payback'?? Why is Zimmerman the horse so many racist bigots are betting on for some kind of racial comeuppance??
Apparently hard4janira has never heard of 're-gentrification' either, as if some of us are making that shit up too.
WHen you say 'the Black community is a fucking disaster area', and don't qualify or translate that statement into common english, sorry but the average person is gonna take that as a RACIST commentary.
My family and extended family are not on welfare, aren't in an out of prison. They are military officers, college professors and business owners, they are MARRIED with children, they own their own homes. IMO my own Black family is not that exceptional. There are literally tens of thousands of Black families like mine.
But the nutjobs like you hard5janira think what you hear on the news and right wing radio is the MAJORITY of Black people's reality, instead representing a subclass within the Black community.
Yes there's a crisis of incarceration in the Black community of young Black men being locked up for years for NON-VIOLENT DRUG CRIMES, which is a whole other discussion by itself. Too bad our 'fair and just legal system' doesn't target suburban middle class drug dealers for arrest and conviction, since half of the BM locked up on minor drug offenses could be replaced by their White counterparts if justice was truly blind.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Well if hard5janira. can contradict the FBI Giovanni with some sources and not mere talk then I will listen.
FBI RECORDS OF CRIMINAL STATISTICS
In 2010, 7,066,154 Caucasians and 2,846,862 African Americans were arrested for some reason or another. In the U.S. in 2010, the population included 223,553,265 Caucasians and 38,929,319 African Americas.
But yet 70% of the prison population is African American, do the math on that shit.!!!
Caucasians are more likely than anyone to commit and have committed serial killings. And those are mostly Caucasian men.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
Why is OJ brought up in relation to the Trayvon murder???
My family and extended family are not on welfare, aren't in an out of prison. They are military officers, college professors and business owners, they are MARRIED with children, they own their own homes. IMO my own Black family is not that exceptional. There are literally tens of thousands of Black families like mine.
But the nutjobs like you hard5janira think what you hear on the news and right wing radio is the MAJORITY of Black people's reality, instead representing a subclass within the Black community.
Yes there's a crisis of incarceration in the Black community of young Black men being locked up for years for NON-VIOLENT DRUG CRIMES, which is a whole other discussion by itself. Too bad our 'fair and just legal system' doesn't target suburban middle class drug dealers for arrest and conviction, since half of the BM locked up on minor drug offenses could be replaced by their White counterparts if justice was truly blind.
That's why I said
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And you try to call me a racist? LOL LOL Fucking unbelievable!!!
Just laughed and kept it moving I have typed enough, I was not going there.
Funny thing is Caucasians can commit the same crime as a African descent person and get a total different prison sentence. Now that's some real bullshit.
See all those white collar jobs are here and being committed but I guess since they are not guttertized no one put them in statistics. SMH World Com and all those other companies that fell after it were CAUCASIAN OWNED and had nothing to do with African descent people, those are the top executives, CEO's, CFO's, Vice Presidents etc committing crimes and fucking people over!!!
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Testimony from hispanic New Jersey state trooper Emblez Longoria in 1999 suggested that this issue (racial profiling) was not specific to Maryland. Longoria said that co-workers and bosses were pressuring him to stop black and hispanic drivers illegally simply to fulfill quota. He alleged that he was harassed and denied promotions when he refused to do so.
I can do this shit all day long !!! But yet asked me what planet I am on, fucking unbelievable!!!
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And what the most craziest shit is in America when Caucasian youth side with African descent youth those Caucasians are called TRAILER CRASH, aka Ni*** lovers!!! There are some Caucasian adults that don't like what the Caucasian adults are doing and they are called trash, why is that?
Just like in this Trayvon incident, people are not looking at the dam video of protesters, it's not all African descent people, there are a hellava lot of Caucasian people out there, with Hispanics also, so what the fuck is people like Hajira talking about? I know they are racist to the core and want some due back from the OJ case. Get the fuck outta here He was found not guilty, and people still got pus in their mouths over that shit. That's how you know real racism exist!!!
On one motha fucking hand "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" Soon as OJ was found not guilty motha fuckas still said he was guilty, how does that shit work?
Fucked up for OJ, since this person wants to bring this shit up, that dude OJ put half his wife's family through fucking school etc. She was a fucking drug user and doing all types of shit. That's OJ's fault though but it goes to say Nicole was no fucking angel!!!
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
There's no point arguing with hard5janira. He for some reason believes the majority of Black people in this country represent a criminal, degenerate underclass, as if 75% Black Americans are a part of a criminal class in this country.
I don't believe that - you made that up. I DO believe, however, that a disproportionate number of black males commit a disproportionate number of crimes. It's a fact.
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
Why is OJ brought up in relation to the Trayvon murder??? When is justice supposed to be about 'payback'?? Why is Zimmerman the horse so many racist bigots are betting on for some kind of racial comeuppance??
I didn't say anything about 'payback'. I brought it up because OJ walked with a MOUNTAIN of physical evidence working against his favor. You people have already convicted Zimmerman (as has the media) largely on CIRCUMSTANCIAL evidence. I think that if a jury can aquit OJ based on that a jury of Zimmerman's peers would reasonably let him walk. I hope those of you who want to flush Zimmermans life away because you think he's a racist should find more physical evidence in your favor. But this doesn't matter to you people.. you don't give a fuck about justice. You bablble on about racism and hate crimes - you fuckers don't have a clue what that bullshit means. If you did, you'd be just as outraged at the murder of the two USC students. But you're not. You don't give a fuck about hate crime justice at all.
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
WHen you say 'the Black community is a fucking disaster area', and don't qualify or translate that statement into common english, sorry but the average person is gonna take that as a RACIST commentary.
I don't care how you take it. It's a fact, you just can't accept hearing it from white people. People INSIDE your own community have been saying that for years (they call it an 'epipdemic'). What % of black men have been or will be in prison? It's over 40%. That's not normal, but go back to putting your head in the sand.
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
My family and extended family are not on welfare, aren't in an out of prison. They are military officers, college professors and business owners, they are MARRIED with children, they own their own homes. IMO my own Black family is not that exceptional. There are literally tens of thousands of Black families like mine.
I think that's terrific. Good for you. I still wouldn't trust you if I saw you wearing a hoodie walking around my neighborhood. Why should I? There are too many bad apples. I can't afford to end up like those two USC students. Sorry, I'm profiling you until your community gets its shit together.
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
Yes there's a crisis of incarceration in the Black community of young Black men being locked up for years for NON-VIOLENT DRUG CRIMES, which is a whole other discussion by itself. Too bad our 'fair and just legal system' doesn't target suburban middle class drug dealers for arrest and conviction, since half of the BM locked up on minor drug offenses could be replaced by their White counterparts if justice was truly blind.
Fair enough. I think that there is merit to what you are saying there.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
jamesedwards
On one motha fucking hand "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" Soon as OJ was found not guilty motha fuckas still said he was guilty, how does that shit work?
Fucked up for OJ, since this person wants to bring this shit up, that dude OJ put half his wife's family through fucking school etc. She was a fucking drug user and doing all types of shit. That's OJ's fault though but it goes to say Nicole was no fucking angel!!!
Lol, you're a basket case. Is Zimmerman innocent until proven guilty? I didn't think so....
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
hard4janira
Lol, you're a basket case. Is Zimmerman innocent until proven guilty? I didn't think so....
Yeah he has that right he is innocent until proven guilty.
But I guess you're swarming all over the innocent until proven guilty thing. That wasn't the initial problem, see you jump and dance so much you forget the first intention of what this was about. IT WAS ABOUT ZIMMERMAN NOT BEING FUCKING ARRESTED AFTER HE ADMITTING TO KILLING A PERSON!!! That's why the people were outraged and people like you made it a fucking race issue when it wasn't about that at all.
You called me a basket case huh, after all I said? Hummm yeah it would come to that being you can't fuck with what I said as facts!!! But I will be a basket case no problem, but I know who I really am, so thank you for those words, cause if that's all you could come up with, I think I will take that as a compliment. :dancing:
