Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
As a kid I've seen skinny Black kids like Trayvon get beat down by their mother's(!), much less a grown man who outweighs him by 40#.
There's something to be said for some of you having an irrational fear of someone else's skin color.
:werd: You hit it on the head, as I told Queen I don't see Trayvon as a threat, now the news said he was only 5'11 not no dam 6'3, see how they tried to make a monster out of him? A teen just going to the store they want to make him the killer when he's dead, how the fuck does that work?
Yep you nailed it, FEAR!!! Fear of a young African descent male because some others did crime. It goes deeper than that but I won't even comment cause some are not on that level.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
hard4janira
The fact is black poeple are probably the most racist hate filled people in the country (not that whtie people aren't). I'm just saying that black people exhibit so much anger violence towards other races because they have MASSIVE inferiority complexes that they refuse to admit. Who else advocates the killing of Korean grocers because they are EARNING money in black neighborhoods? Black people are a fucking disaster area in America (I apologize to those of you who have actually clawed your way to respecabiltity - you get a bad rap but you're stuck in a barrel of rotten apples).
Classic!!! the most pompous jack ass rhetoric yet, who can out do this person?
You said African descent people are the most racist? First off I don't us the word black to describe myself or my people, it's a foolish misnomer made up by Caucasian people who run this govt to classify us in a racial status so we're not black, we are African descent, or some perfer African american. Now that I got that out the way.
How dare you call my people the MOST RACIST in America? Are you fucking kidding me? If we were the most racist there would have been racial fights that would of lasted for 200 years.
Do you have a factual statistic showing African descent people are the most racist? Or is that her own personal opinion? I hope you have a statistic, because your personal is just that and it sounds foolish!!!
Do you even know what the real word RACISM MEANS? No it doesn't mean hate, hate means hate and that's it, to be a racist from the old dictionary not these new watered down ass dictionaries to beguile people in bullshit. If you look up the word hate, the word racism is not there, so the word hate can't mean racism, that shit makes no sense. If I hate cookies of every kind am I being a racist?
Give me the definition of a racist if you can, not this new modern shit, if you can't then I will correct you and type you a nice little educational note on real racism and why my people aren't. And you had the nerve to say "AND THE FACT IS......." That's no dam fact that's your personal opinion!!!
THEN YOU SAID THIS BULLSHIT!!! YES I HAD TO CALL IT BULLSHIT BECAUSE IT SMELLS LIKE BULLS SHIT!!!
"I'm just saying that black people exhibit so much anger violence towards other races because they have MASSIVE inferiority complexes that they refuse to admit."
Inferiority complex? Are you fucking kidding me ? LOL You don't even know the extent of why some African descent people are angry at Caucasians, don't say other races, it's mostly Caucasians. Since you said this, you never gave the reason why African descent people have an inferiority complex, you just said we do and that's it, you gave no history or scientific proof, nothing. And we are suppose to believe that? Give ten reasons why we have inferiority complexes, if you can.
I will respond to you.
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Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Well the guy changed his story and said he wasn't sure who was yelling for help, but assumed it was zimmerman since he did see trayvon on top of him mma style beating him down. One could only assume that the person getting the crap beat out of them would be the one calling for help. I guess you can decide how that makes either of them look. Also, the police report says trayvon is 6'0 160 lbs and zimmerman is at 5'9 with no weight listed, but most news pages are listing him at 170 lbs.
Also, pic posted is related to this thread. Its Zimmerman after he got is ass beat lol kinda looks like a cholo to me
amydaly and zimmermans depraved indifference
depraved indifference
I keep hearing many on this board make excuses for zimmerman but he is in the fight of his life for his life because the federal charge is the death penalty for this
Criminally Negligent Homicide
(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...oAT_story.html
What this means is that the state is not attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully murdered Trayvon Martin.
Instead they will set out to prove that -- by going after Trayvon with a loaded gun:
-- even after he had been reminded not to by the 911 operator
-- despite the proper protocols for any neighborhood watch program
-- despite zimmerman's own training in law enforcement
Zimmerman recklessly endangered Trayvon's life.
He WILLFULLY CREATED the circumstances where the gun was used.
In the absence of any eyewitness who had a clear view of the start of the fight,
or the firing of the gun.
Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.
If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...
then he's guilty under the law.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
AmyDaly
Also, the police report says trayvon is 6'0 160 lbs and zimmerman is at 5'9 with no weight listed, but most news pages are listing him at 170 lbs.
Also, pic posted is related to this thread. Its Zimmerman after he got is ass beat lol kinda looks like a cholo to me
I just heard the report and I don't trust the police report because they have been fucking up ever since. Anytime they tell the public that clown Zimmerman is clean and comes to find out he's not I can'f fuck with Sanford dept, and to back me up that's why they want that chief or whatever the hell his position is to step down.
Here's what the medical examiner said, those the people I listen to in their report because they are thorough in their shit!!!
http://img1.imagehousing.com/62/8927...9b09df859b.jpg
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ged-story?lite
Well if he wouldn't have gotten out of his SUV his ass wouldn't look like a cholo!!! You don't run up on people, even if you are a dam watchmen. Even when I trained as a security officer back in the day, unarmed, they told me to not engage to call police and have information about any suspects. That's what I would of done instead trying to be a dam hero.
Re: amydaly and zimmermans depraved indifference
From the other report he faces, life if convicted on 2nd degree murder, but since the race thing is now pertinent, if he is convicted of that HE WILL GET THE DEATH PENALTY FOR A RACE HATE CRIME KILLING!!! Which I don't think he will get, but if he was to get it, I WOULD BE IN TOTAL SHOCK!!! More likely he'll get life in prison or some time!!!
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Originally Posted by
natina
depraved indifference
(or "depraved indifference") in the language of the indictment for second degree murder.
Florida authorities wisely avoided the pitfalls of attempting to prove that Zimmerman willfully shot Trayvon in a situation where he had other options.
If the Jury believes that Zimmerman's actions willfully created a situation where he might well use his gun...
then he's guilty under the law.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
LOL.
Zimmerman may be 170# now after starving himself after going in seclusion for three months, but he wasn't 170# on the night of the altercation.
About the pic you posted Amy, this is one of the main reasons I think Trayvon decided to fight Zimmerman. With his shaved head and red jacket, after following Trayvon for three blocks, IMO this kid thought he was being run up on by a gang banger.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/att...1&d=1337504097
It's typical of gang members to ask 'who you with?' or 'what are you doing here?' when they're checking out strangers who they feel shouldn't be on their turf.
IMO at night Zimmerman looked just as threatening to Trayvon as Travyon erroneously looked to George Zimmerman.
Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the
To constitute depraved indifference, the defendant's conduct must be 'so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime. Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the injuries actually resulting.
In one case, People v Register, 60 NY2d 273, 469 NYS2d 599 (1983),while exploring the meaning of "depraved indifference recklessness" the Court of Appeals ruled that intoxication is not a defense or excuse to "depraved mind murder," although it may be to intentional murder. Its analysis started with distinguishing reckless manslaughter from the "depraved indifference recklessness" necessary for murder:
"to bring defendant’s conduct within the murder statute, the People were required to establish also that defendant’s act was imminently dangerous and presented a very high risk of death to others and that it was committed under circumstances which evidenced a wanton indifference to human life or a depravity of mind. . . . . The crime differs from intentional murder in that it results not from a specific, conscious intent to cause death, but from an indifference to or disregard of the risks attending defendant’s conduct." 60 NY2d at 274.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depraved-indifference/
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
zimmerman is 250lbs
travon martin is 157lbs and skinny
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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Originally Posted by
jamesedwards
Here's what the medical examiner said, those the people I listen to in their report because they are thorough in their shit!!!
I tend to believe the medical examiner more as well, and yes, it does list him at 5'11 158 lbs on that report. In comparison to zimmerman, he is about 2 inches taller and 12 lbs lighter. Pretty negligible differences. The 7-11 video gives a good idea of the actual size of him compared to the clerk. It also looks like the coroners report also indicates 2 injuries on martin. His knuckles from punching zimmerman, and the gun shot wound that was made from being shot from inches apart.
Here is the coroners report: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im....pdf?hpt=hp_t1
