TRUVADA: Why are we ALL not taking this???!!!!

as an add on to condoms I agree... but not as a substitute

Why are poppers stupid when used with restraint?

^ They aren't anymore stupid than booze or a joint.

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I've had a bit of a turn around on my thinking on this, (don't get me wrong, i still think he's a cock). But, that's his right.

Lets face it, there's only a thin membrane between our viewpoints. And, as much as we castigate him, people who don't play in the 'war zone' could say the same of us. ...

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I agree. Some caution is warranted, but... At this point it seems like it is a real additional prevention option for a lot of people.

I think cost is really the biggest issue preventing widespread adoption right now. $14k a year is a lot. I'm just wondering if more people buying it will enable the cost to go down...

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Originally Posted by Westheangelino

^ How is this NOT doing that??? Half of all men who have sex with men will become HIV positive by the time they are fifty if current rates continue. We have plateaued in our efforts to combat this endemic disease through condoms. Let's live in reality. I'm not saying that we should go back to the utter hedonism of the 70's (yet), but the reality is that people WILL be careless and not use a condom every time. So, why not have this extra safety net?

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Because, if people are careless to not use a condom, what make you think they'll use this. Just be smart and stay safe. And if your partner doesn't like condoms, then you should rethink your partners.

^ Read any of the articles I've posted, and cost really isn't an issue. Just this week, Andrew Cuomo of NY came out preaching the Truvada gospel. Medicaid is covering this as are most private health insurers (benefits them as it's far cheaper than providing meds after someone is already POZ).

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Originally Posted by datguy69

Because, if people are careless to not use a condom, what make you think they'll use this. Just be smart and stay safe. And if your partner doesn't like condoms, then you should rethink your partners.

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1. Condoms suck
2. Condoms are not sexy
3. Condoms do not feel good
4. Condoms are NOT as effective as properly taken Truvada
5. Condom usage campaigns have failed to halt the spread of HIV among men who have sex with men


Would you use the same argument against the birth control pill?

Ok. Here's the thing.

What if there were a pill that let you blow the legal limit in a breathalyzer but still be shitface drunk? Would you be applauding that? NO. Because you KNOW drunk driving accidents (and other alcohol related crimes) would skyrocket right?

Well, JUST taking this pill as your excuse to bareback freely,is pretty much the same thing.

You take this pill and think you can just avoid condoms permanently....which opens you up to OTHER diseases.

FYI There has been a cure for years, since the epidemic, they not going to release it. Yes we are not in the 80s anymore, where alone 40,000+ people died in SF from AIDS. But I wouldnt want to take this drug in order to have bareback sex, or what not. I have been sexually active (anal sex) since I was real young. In my 34 years of life, I have had scares but for most part have been safe. I also was in a relationship with an HIV+ person for 2 years, and I am still negative. I rather take safe sex over a pill. Sorry, I hate taking my hormones, how the fuck I wanna take a magic pill so I can have bareback sex.

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Originally Posted by Chaos

Ok. Here's the thing.

What if there were a pill that let you blow the legal limit in a breathalyzer but still be shitface drunk? Would you be applauding that? NO. Because you KNOW drunk driving accidents (and other alcohol related crimes) would skyrocket right?

Well, JUST taking this pill as your excuse to bareback freely,is pretty much the same thing.

You take this pill and think you can just avoid condoms permanently....which opens you up to OTHER diseases.

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That is the weakest analogy I have yet heard. If you took a pill that let you blow the legal limit, that would mean that it made you NOT DRUNK, since the breathalizer analyzes your blood alcohol level. So, it would eliminate your impairment. Basically, you just made an affirmative argument for what I'm saying. YES I would take a drug that made me sober while I was driving home after a night of heavy drinking. YES I would take a drug that eliminated the risk of me contracting HIV after a night of bareback sex. WHAT IS YOUR POINT???????

As for other diseases, they are all curable and (please reference the latest article I posted), this drug also reduces the risk of genital herpes.