Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
some hearsay is allowed in court
it depends on the state and who did the hearsay and other factors.......
Two acquaintances painted an unflattering picture of Zimmerman in police interviews.
A distraught woman told an investigator that she stays away from Zimmerman because he's racist and because of things he's done to her in the past, but she didn't elaborate on what happened between them.
"I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else. But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that," the unidentified woman says in an audio recording.
A man whose name was deleted from the audio told investigators said he worked with Zimmerman in 2008 for a few months. It wasn't clear which company it was.
The man, who described his heritage as "Middle Eastern," said that when he first started, many employees didn't like him. Zimmerman seized on this, the employee said, and bullied him.
Zimmerman wanted to "get in" with the clique at work so he exaggerated a Middle Eastern accent when talking about the employee, the man said. The employee told investigators that Zimmerman made reference to terrorists and bombings when talking about him.
"It was so immature," said the employee, who ended up writing a letter to management about Zimmerman.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...44ed43b71e48e1
evidence supports the contention of Martin's parents that Zimmerman was the aggressor.
The investigator who called for Zimmerman's arrest, Christopher Serino, told prosecutors the fight could have been avoided if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement. He said Zimmerman, after leaving his vehicle, could have identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and talked to him instead of confronting him. The report was written March 13, nearly a month before Zimmerman's eventual arrest.
He said there is no evidence Martin was involved in any criminal activity as he walked from a convenience store to the home of his father's fiance in the same gated community where Zimmerman lived.
The lawyer for Martin's parents seized on the investigator's recommendation.
"The police concluded that none of this would have happened if George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car," said attorney Ben Crump. "If George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car, they say it was completely avoidable. That is the headline."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...44ed43b71e48e1
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Being African descent is not a crime.
Being tall is not a crime, if it was there would be no NBA.
Having a hoodie is not a crime.
Going to the store late at night is not a crime.
Getting suspended from school is not a crime.
Visiting your father is not a crime.
Not trusting a stranger is not a crime.
Being a teen is not a crime.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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jamesedwards
Lets say Trayvon did fight Zimmerman, fact is Trayvon had no gun, Zimmerman should of fought force with force not a gun shot. Listen to what the first video that Natina put up. I All this evidence for the prosecutor, I don't see this diminishing. The Prosecutors got evidence also.
Papantonio: Trayvon Killer Should Be Charged With Premeditated Murder
I only watched the first minute or two of Papantonio. There are some problems with what he said. He said 911 told him not to pursue Trayvon. The dispatcher didn't give any order. He told Zimmerman that 'we don't need you to do that'. Papantonio says the dispatcher said 'Stop!', but the dispatcher never said that.
Papantonio also thinks he KNOWS what Zimmerman's mental state was. None of us do.
I stopped watching after that. I found him to be way too pompous. There are a lot of things we still don't know about the case, but Papantonio knows everything already. Even though I know he didn't listen to the 911 tape. And if he did, he didn't hear what it said. He heard what he wanted it to say.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
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some hearsay is allowed in court
it depends on the state and who did the hearsay and other factors.......
Hearsay is not allowed but it goes like this by definition of legal law: It states.
Hearsay Rule, that declares not admissible as evidence any statement other than that by a witness while testifying at the hearing and offered into evidence to prove the truth of the matter stated. The hearsay statement may be oral or written (Tray's girlfriend of what she heard and phone log) and includes nonverbal conduct intended as a substitute for words (such as a nodding of the head). If, for example, a witness' statement as to what he or she heard another person say is elicited to prove the truth of what that other person said, it is hearsay. If, however, it is elicited to merely show that the words were spoken, it is not hearsay. The witness' answer will be admissible only to show that the other person spoke certain words and not to sow the truth of the credibility of the witness is the key ingredient in weighing the truth of this or her statement.
Hearsay is prohibited due to the constitutional guarantee of confrontation.
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Zimmerman psychologically wanna be cop profile; He’s like so many other utterly unaccomplished males who fantasize about being a badass law officer, meting out justice to the ne’er-do-wells.
Trayvon Martin, White Denial and the Unacceptable Burden of Blackness in America
By now, you probably know the shameful details, but they are worth repeating, in any event.
On the evening of February 26, George Zimmerman, a self-appointed “neighborhood watch captain” in an Orlando suburb, shot and killed 17-year old Trayvon Martin.
Because Martin was black.
And no, don’t even think of rolling your eyes at the suggestion. That is what happened, just as surely as so many might well be loathe to admit it.
Oh sure, he denies such a motivation, as does his family, but the details of the incident, now emerging from that evening leave very little question about it.
This was not, as we too often hear in the wake of such incidents, “a tragedy.”
This was not, as some would have it, “a terrible accident.”
It was murder, plain and simple. And it would be called such by everyone in a nation that had any commitment to honest language, which, sadly, would pretty much rule out the one in which Martin’s life began and ended, and in which Zimmerman continues to operate as a free man, unarrested by the police.
Trayvon Martin is dead because George Zimmerman believed his neighborhood needed and deserved to be protected from young black men, who could not possibly belong there, in his estimation. Never mind that Martin was in the community with his father, visiting friends. Never mind that Martin was armed only with Skittles and iced tea, while Zimmerman carried a loaded weapon.
Zimmerman, who has a history of aggressive behavior (including assaulting an officer a few years ago), appears to have something of a Dirty Harry syndrome about him. He is someone described by his own neighbors as overzealous,.....
http://www.timwise.org/2012/03/trayv...ss-in-america/
http://www.timwise.org/2012/03/trayv...ss-in-america/
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
Re: 17yr old black kid shot and killed for walking in white suburbia?
First let me say, maybe you should of watched the whole thing. Second if he's pompous then Nancy and Curtis Silva is also, and a slew of others no matter what race they are don't agree with Zimmerman.
Pap, is into law so he knows his stuff and he is fighting cases that means he has experience, just like me, now how much experience of law do you have? Just asking.
Come on Queens Guy we know 911 didn't say stop, all Pap is saying when they said "WE DON'T NEED YOU TO DO THAT" he is saying stop just so he doesn't have to say the whole "WE DON'T NEED YOU TO DO THAT " again, that's all. He even quoted "WE DON'T NEED YOU TO DO THAT", and he just added the extra "STOP" to it, it's equivalent to "WE DON'T NEED YOU TO DO THAT". Lets be real.
The dispatchers are there for a reason, they are trained to handle certain situations and one must listen to them, if you want to be helped correctly. They work with law enforcement to do a job, they're there for a reason. So what do you mean they didn't give any order? They told Zimmerman "YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT", I mean what's up? I could see if they said nothing at all but they told him he need not engage the Teen.
But if you have a beef with Pap then that's your beef but the dude is an attorney and he has much experience, and like him others are upset with how the Police handled the case and what happened with Zimmerman not being arrested at first getty up!!.
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Queens Guy
I only watched the first minute or two of Papantonio. There are some problems with what he said. He said 911 told him not to pursue Trayvon. The dispatcher didn't give any order. He told Zimmerman that 'we don't need you to do that'. Papantonio says the dispatcher said 'Stop!', but the dispatcher never said that.
Papantonio also thinks he KNOWS what Zimmerman's mental state was. None of us do.
I stopped watching after that. I found him to be way too pompous. There are a lot of things we still don't know about the case, but Papantonio knows everything already. Even though I know he didn't listen to the 911 tape. And if he did, he didn't hear what it said. He heard what he wanted it to say.
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natina
Zimmerman psychologically wanna be cop profile; He’s like so many other utterly unaccomplished males who fantasize about being a badass law officer, meting out justice to the ne’er-do-wells.
LOL I laughed when Pap said that lol :dead: He said dudes even dress in tights lol ctfu lol lmao :dead:
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Fine, I'm cancelling my account with you. Your site sucks lately anyway. There's better content on the free tube channels than what you post up every Saturday morning.
I thought you liked freedom of speech? You threaten me with stopping giving me business because I won't alter my moral stances to fit in with your right wing racism - but then you claim you don't like the business anyway?
