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Mamaz wah happened? I thought we were talking about the negative effects of chasers?
Now ppl live in high rises, driving mercedez, being ghetto and beat up, getting their jimmy choos stolen?
At the end of the day seems like we share a common ground, thats why theres no need to bash a group of ts bec in my oppinion woth what is said.
We all have a tendency to b catty, superficial, and defensive.
Nicole has her views
Kelly has hers.
Ultimatley i just wanted to adress the offense to this thread.
I don't think there is anything offensive about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Several men that have dated trans-women long term like Willie Escalade had the same opinion as me..
Or Eric from New York that has done trans documentaries and a huge supporter of trans has said yes he agrees..
Tons of girls on my facebook and twitter agreed...talking about their experience being friends with trans girls and how it let them down.
I pointed out the fact how you went after my looks/age 3 or 4 times
And how Nicole is showing how many transsexuals act..gossips...backstabbers..bullies..and just hateful
I feel many girls watched Mean Girls too much and now craft their life after it
And by the way I have no pity for girls who are passable that complain all day about being treated like sex objects..
What about girls that couldn't pass a day in their life or walk down the street...those girls are not only treated like crap by the public..but by their sisters and men...
Those are the girls that should be complaining...
At least many of us can walk down the street and have some sense of normalcy..
If a girl isn't passable she is labeled a crossdresser by many on here...
Who the hell are you to say a girl isn't a transsexual just cause she doesn't look like a supermodel?
I just find it disgusting..
Oh. Btw, Kelly? I really don't care. lol Lord knows I've heard everything I could possibly have ever needed to know about you. Good luck. :)
You have nothing on my life. I was talking about chasers.
Now where were we...?
I do live for your posts when you're not bullying someone or trying to tear someone down. You were never in the presence of Mimi and I at the same time, so how is that possible?? What stories are these I'm interested, the only story you heard from me is about the shoes which was completely insignificant... Mimi and I aren't even friends anymore.. So who really cares.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
So ur going to completley disregard calling me jaded, delusional, and ignorant for not wanting to date chasers?
Are we playing victim now?
Glad you "heard" and not your own experience...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
I don't ever base my opinion of someone by others...
I have met many girls that everyone spoke bad about were awesome chicks...
And then girls that everyone praised were looney toons...
It's quite sad how people go off gossip and rumors
Ah-hem. lol
Anyway, yes. I don't have high tolerance for chasers. Admirers are fine. Chasers are losers. They're phony. They want what they know that by rights they should pay for, but they want it for free. So they try to play for it.
I said you sound jaded...I didn't say you were jaded...Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Two different things...
I said you and many girls label anything and everything a chaser..
I said girls in my opinion enable mens actions..why would a guy want to treat you with any respect when you treat them like crap?
A totally nice guy who is dumb to transsexuals who could of been taught a thing or two..can be tainted and then he turns into an asshole..why cause some girl with a chip on her shoulder goes off on him. And then that becomes his perception of all of us!
Many girls in my opinion are enablers of how they are treated!
So it's your opinion every guy that doesn't want to pay an escort..if he doesn't know you are a working girl...is a chaser??Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
But then you proceed to tell him oh honey I'm a working girl...and he says oh sorry I'm not into that...he is labeled a chaser?
Sounds quite unfair to me..
Really? What happened? Was Kelly was a better person to be friends with?Quote:
Originally Posted by hefzfavebunii
Wait. Who are you again?
Oh, Ashley. Riiiiight. The two-faced girl. lol
But I'm not a working girl. I retired from escorting almost 9 months ago. My site can come down at any time. lol I have a great job. I'm not kidding. Seriously, people hate me for saying things I feel, but I don't lie. I hate lying and liars. So that's that. I want SRS and I no longer juggle clients and chasers. I've been dating fairly regular guys. I shit you not.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Everyone and their mother can be labeled two-faced..including you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
It's in the past why on earth is it relevant now?
You are living in a 400,000 dollar condo and going to school - you are happy as you say...good...
Ashley lives in a great place and doing well....good
Why is any of the past and mistakes of others so important to you..
Are you so infallible that you have never made mistakes Nicole?
We all have our skeletons in our closet and you dish everyone's but your own...
And when someone dishes yours you get upset...
I find people who are happy in their life have no reason to hate on others..
But your stance in all your statements about chasers has to do with escorting..thats what I was responding to..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
Ah see that was your mistake, because i dont just label any guys chasers, nothing in post indicated that. You just assume because you categorized as one of those ts, so maybe you need to look up what jaded means and apply that to yourself.
I clearly stated and gave an explanation of what i believe is a chaser, so if you cant read its not my fault.
You call me delusional for stating facts about my life yet you dont like it when nicole does the same.
Your a ts who is an activist obviously i want to hold u to a standard, but your thread just gives ts a bad light, and you stated out yourself you have negative views on your own kind.
Do you see how that could be hypocritical?
You don't think I still come across chasers when I tell them I have a dick? Only working girls encounter chasers? I hope you don't actually believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I have sold my body since my teens. Imo my perspective as a provider is still a valid one. But I'm done with it. I wouldn't even hint at being done with it if I wasn't. So what? I can't just chit chat about it? If I do I'm being mean to someone? Your bisexuality is more valid than my sexuality? Is your thread exclusively for providers and people who do porn? Just tell me so, and I won't contribute to it.
Nicole isn't stating facts she is stating heresay and gossip. Then twisting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Just like she is doing to Ashley.
This is what Nicole does..she is good at what she does..and she enjoys it.
She thinks she knows everyone's business, but yet she pays no mind to her own.
Sounds pretty sad to me. I don't spend my days talking about others or berating others. She does - that's her choice. But doesn't sound like a happy person to me.
I have never been nothing but respectful and nice to everyone in my life. Even when others were mean to me I held my head high and tried to be nice. I don't mind being the hated one on my opinions or my thoughts. I have a strong sense of myself and who I am. I will admit there is one or two trans girls I have fought with and no not Jasmine. Wendy...but that's cause she also at times does what Nicole does. And then another porn girl Kimber. Those are the only two I have really ever fought with or spoken ill about. But I've said those things to their faces. Wendy and I now ignore each other. But I still get told she says things about me on her twitter, but I ignore it. It's just stupid and petty. Then I get girls making up phony twitter accounts...I ignore that to. It's all just silliness to me. I know at the end of the day I'm a good person and that's all that matters.
Other than that I ignore drama and try to live my life. I said I doubt what you are saying from you contradicting yourself a few times in your statements. You can also see the contempt you have for men in your writings and your bashing. Not just in this thread, but many threads. For you to pull a blind eye and say that none of this goes on at all is laughable. As well as delusional. You have your opinion - I have mine.
No Nicole in almost every post you made about chasers you said oh they have to pay for it yadda yadda yadda...and if they don't feel they need to pay for it..their labeled a chaser...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
That's what I was responding to.
I honestly never knew what a chaser was till I got into the porn world...
I just called them hard up guys that I dismissed..
Like when I went to the ts clubs in LA it was just weird to me and freaked me out.
They look at you like they are looking through a microscope..
I just thought they were horny guys - cause I feel the same way when I go to straight clubs but less
ok I feel like meat someone asked to see my cock picture lol...I'm an exibitionist at heart I offered to cam it....why someone would want to see it is beyond my understanding:geek:
I never said I haven't made mistakes or that my life's been perfect. But I do think it's pretty nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
And I never said I hated Ashley.I wasn't even thinking about her, let alone discussing her. She came for me. It's pretty obvious. I don't think much of Ashley, but that's how Ashley made it. Not me. When people show me their true colors, I accept it. But I don't hate her. I don't hate a soul.
Anyway, I ran away at 15 and started sucking dicks on the West Side Highway. I lived in hooker hotels. I used hard drugs. I dated men who abused me. I've been raped. I've been broke. My extended family is mostly both career law enforcement and career criminals; cops and robbers, pigs and hoods. That's not exactly a perfect life. But it's ok. I'm still proud. My conscience is clean. And my life is actually really nice now. I was just killing some time while I'm working from home today. I'm actually working now, and typing in between phone calls. lol
I dont know porn girls as most of my friends are straight guys, and gg, i have one ts bestie.. I cant relate
However everything stated is false. I have no contempt in men or admirers.
If thats the case i wouldnt b friends or aqquaintances with some guys on here
Ed jackson
Willie
Oem
Blks
I like them alot and hung out, and i wouldnt call them chasers or bash them. Thats false! So no im not delusional, i speak honestly. Theres no contradictions to anything i say, or hate towards men. I am friends with a few chasers but i will not date them.
If a guy dates only white girls for his personal taste is he racist because he does not date blacks? No...
I dont date chasers so you shpuldnt assume im a man hater... I love men, men love me. Deal with it.
That is precisely what i meant when I said tremendous courage and tremendous resilence. You didn't let the world keep you down and surviving that and not being broken by it shows amazing charactor /bow not to the penis to the triumphQuote:
Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre
But a person you mentioned said I was spot on..so would you say he is wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
I don't hang out with ts porn girls - I have female friends I hang with - I just find we have more in common than transsexuals.
I can't relate to a lot of transsexuals on their views or their drama ways.
As I said I've only met one hand of girls in the porn world that were good people..
The rest were focused on negativity - hatred - depressed - drugged up - and the list goes on...
I think some had to be ADD or just crazy lol
That's why my hanging with transsexuals or speaking to transsexuals consists of online only..
Unless I already knew the girl like Foxxy or Jesse
Well, yes. Certain guys DO have to pay for it. What's wrong with that? I mean, c'mon. How would the dorks and dweebs in life ever get laid without paying? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Let me also point out, chasers don't hold up a sign that says "I'm a chaser". They're sneaks. Often they even have some money. But their pride won't allow them to give you a gift. I just have my own theories on chasers. There are different types, but they're mostly all the same. Chasers in clubs are the most transparent chasers there are. I've encountered my share of them too. But all chasers are "dogs" or "playas". That's what GG's call them. I just call them chasers because they have that cock obsession for transsexuals going as well.
Not at all! Because ppl have diffrent views Kels.Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
I wasnt even wanting to mention my offense to your thread bec your allowed on your view, what pissed me off was when you stated i sound jaded. Then i had to say it because its not fair for u to assume one mentality without proper knowledge.
Ok, back to work now. I'll let Ashley be your bright beam of transsexual sunshine for the rest of the day. ;-)
Toodles. lol
But I said a majority - if you weren't part of the majority why did you respond at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by EvonRose
Why do you deny what goes on when it's so prevalent?
I had a ts girlfriend who went out with this great guy - he didn't try to have sex with her - he just took her on dates - they dated a month or so - and then they started talking about past experiences - he brought up he dated another transsexual for 8 years- bam she calls me up crying saying he is just a tranny chaser.....
I'm like girl where is it written in the stars he is a tranny chaser cause he dated another trans girl? She said yes it means he isn't straight...I was like ummmmmmmm...I said other than that what's wrong with him...and she said nothing he is perfect..but because of that she never saw him again..and now she is pretty miserable.
That is what I'm talking about as well..girls that get so up in arms if a guy watches tranny porn when they are dating or been with another trans..girls are so competitive they can't stand it..Their pride gets in the way to allowing them a real worthwhile relationship.
Kels when you say i sound jaded then make a comment and say this is the reason why you have no ts friend. You automatically grouped me along with them. Thats why i responded.
Kelly...i think you are right !Quote:
Originally Posted by KellyShore
Agree 100% with the above...
Ive seen girls here that claim non-passable girls can only date gay guys and calling guys dating them gay...
While at the same time they top guys for money...thats idiotic!
I also think you have a realistic view on life and men and have enjoyed reading your posts here...
The problem i have with chasers is that i often dont match with them...i dont top...and i want te be treated like a woman...
Most chasers dont give me that feeling...
Ladies, it is interesting to read all your comments here, because they show different sides of one bigger picture. I would not judge anyone, because anyone is different person with different life experiences, positive and negative and live in different environment.
I could also say for men, there are good ones and there are bad ones. It is wise to look on everyone as an individual.
Also I think not every tgirls admirer is chaser, I think there are those, who understand, respect and support tgirls and see them human being and woman. Also I don't think liking tgirls means automatically being gay. I like both GG and Tgirls and admire their feminine, not matter cock or vagina between legs. On the other hand I have no sexual interest in Tmales (males, born in female body), who transition into males and get male body although they have vagina between their legs. They are males for me. I respect them as human beings, but I'm not interested into males. It is more important who you are, than what you have between legs.
You people started with a nice thread and in the end start killing each others with such a deep words...Sometimes im really shocked in what stage goes this respect btw you.
Very true...same goes for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by sosed
Thats why i wont date a man in drag that wants to bottom...
But i would date a female to male TS....
Its not the private parts...its the soul and sexual behavior thats important to me...(and looks of course, but less so).
I so agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by tsadriana
Remember this everyday when u look in the mirror as is so true so deep and im gonna post always when is needed.
Before you Judge my Life, my Past or my Character...Walk in My Shoes!!!Walk the Path I have Travelled,Live my Sorrow, my Doubts, my Fear, my Pain ... and my Laughter!Remember, "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!"Everyone has Their Own Story!When you've Lived My Life, Then and Only Then,You Can Judge Me!!!
i love the whole "kelly shows ts in a bad light" angle when just a few pages later the, for lack of a better word, community shows that you clearly dont need kelly to make yourselfs look like a bunch of psychopaths
please keep going this is precisely why i still visit these parts
My view is that people are really confused with their own image but with others image.
Of course not but sexuality isnt a gay, a bi, a hetero hole to put a peg in it's a scale and not a simple one more like a three dimmesional 4 axis chart with tonds of different variabes. Thinking it's cookie cutter labels leads to pyscho drama and conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by sosed
Liking tgirls doesnt make u gay ,because actualy u like the femininity with that someting extra....liking a gay does make u gay imao
Welcome to Hung Angels luv... hope you survive the experience lolz...Quote:
Originally Posted by allurstouse
You guys are so mean I don't get why ts hate on each other so much I could care less about another girl but maybe thats due too the fact I'm doing well I think ppl hate on others when there lives are not what they really want
I hate to say it but it's not simply a TS thing - I know plenty of non-TS women who behave similarly... but you're right typically low self-esteem results in lashing out at others.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshyneMonroe