Why not show some initiative and work your way back through this thread. Guess what - you will find the information you seek.
I'm assuming you both know how to operate the forum.
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Why not show some initiative and work your way back through this thread. Guess what - you will find the information you seek.
I'm assuming you both know how to operate the forum.
Great, here’s the other shoe... the over-reach of this law could be used to deny adult website operators access to traditional banking systems. Looks like we’ll all be using crypto.
“WASHINGTON – With the ink of President Trump’s signature still drying on the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), the U.S. Senate seems poised to pass another new bill ostensibly aimed at curbing human trafficking, but which could have implications for sex workers, and potentially for adult performers and website operators, as well.
The “End Banking for Human Traffickers Act of 2018” (EBHTA), which has already sailed through the House of Representatives by a vote of 408-2, appears to have broad bipartisan support in the Senate, as well. The bill is being championed in the Senate by a strange pair of bedfellows indeed – Senators Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
“Human trafficking is one of the most urgent human rights issues of our time,” Rubio said in a joint statement issued earlier this month by the two senators. “This bill helps provide financial institutions and law enforcement with additional support in their ongoing efforts to help stop human trafficking and hold perpetrators accountable. I am pleased that the House passed it and I look forward to working with my colleagues in the Senate to ensure this bill becomes law.”
“We need to use every tool available to fight human trafficking,” Warren added. “I am glad the House passed our legislation to help financial institutions and regulators cut off traffickers’ access to the banking system and fight perpetrators profiting off the lives of human beings. I look forward to working with my Senate colleagues to pass this bipartisan bill.”
While Rubio and Warren’s statements suggest the legislation offers new tools to financial institutions to deny access to the American banking system, the text of the bill largely calls for review of current procedures and suggestions from relevant stakeholders as to how such procedures and regulations can be improved.
“Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act,” the bill states, “the Financial Institutions Examination Council, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, the private sector, and appropriate law enforcement agencies, shall… review and enhance training and examinations procedures to improve the capabilities of anti-money laundering and countering the financing of terrorism programs to detect financial transactions relating to severe forms of trafficking in persons; review and enhance procedures for referring potential cases relating to severe forms of trafficking in persons to the appropriate law enforcement agency; and determine, as appropriate, whether requirements for financial institutions are sufficient to detect and deter money laundering relating to severe forms of trafficking in persons.”
Several of the key terms and phrases in EBHTA, including “severe forms of trafficking in persons,” take their definitions from section 103 of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA).
Under the relevant section of the TVPA, the term “severe forms of trafficking in persons” is defined as “sex trafficking in which a commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age; or the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery.”
The same section of the TVPA defines “sex trafficking” as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.”
Read narrowly, the provisions of the new bill, coupled with the statutory definitions to which they refer, might seem unlikely to be used in targeting the bank accounts of adult companies and individual sex workers. Some observers are concerned, however, that the financial institutions themselves may interpret their responsibilities under the law more broadly, and with greater aversion to potential risk, than the drafters of the law anticipate or intend.
“There is a concern that banks will substantially increase their anti-money laundering compliance policies relating to anything having to do with sex work, since trafficking has been conflated with sex work to a significant degree in recent political and legislative discussions,” attorney Larry Walters told YNOT. “This could result in decreased access to banking services by not only sex workers, but adult website operators as well. Banks tend to be conservative, and avoid risk at all cost.”
Is there any scope for moving the site, or the reviews part of it elsewhere in the world? I appreciate its a pain, but I'd have thought people posting reviews might be drawn into the other, paying content.
Or is Trump trying to dictate to the world as usual? (Hats off to Macron, even if he is playing RealPolitik with the US/UK 'special relationship')
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There is a possible light at the end of Turnips tunnel - sex sells. It makes a lot of money. That seems obvious but in the Betamx VS. VHS debate, the availability of porn helped to tip the balance against Betamax, a better technology.
So the idea that banks will suddenly become all moral (look at the recent scandals involving US banks and money laundering), seems remote to me.
e.g. https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/us-ban...ering-charges/
fingers crossed...
R
I cant find new thread either and im looking lol
same here
Top of page 43 fellas.
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Originally Posted by hugeadmirer
Hey sent you a PM for the link.
Hey could you send me the link? Have sent PMQuote:
Originally Posted by SheLoverKVB
STFU - you join make two posts and then think people are going to jump because you ask them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhnfgin
ts4rent.com are allowing reviews on their site.
review appears on the girls page.
1 - the reviews are 'checked'/ 'validated'
2 - can't be older than two weeks
3 - doubt negative ones will appear.
its not great but better than nothing - so if you have positive things to say about a girl and she is advertising on ts4rent - get that review posted.
The guy who posted the adverts for that site on here was a spamming moron. Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole...Quote:
Originally Posted by slave2u
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/sho...com-promo-code!
i quite like the site - allows you to see when the girls were last on, which is always a help in knowing if it is worth contacting them (ok there seems to have been a lot of girls who have signed up to it and then never returned).
i end up using it along with ineedescort and birchplace when the desire builds towards me having to make a visit.
the ability to post reviews (albeit that they will more than likely have to be positive) at least means that people who visit a good provider can let others know.
(dang i miss the reviews on here and i miss backpages.....)
I was thinking to implement a review section on ineedescort, but there is no point at all:
- There will be lots of fake reviews will be on the website (not like here, where you know the old and reputable members)
- If there is a bad review how do you know it is not from another girl/competition
- If you have bad reviews for a paying (VIP) escort and you do not remove them, most likely she will not advertise/pay you again...
So in the end, better not, less hassle.
I even will try to make the things more simple on the ineedescort.co.uk in the near future.
P.S. On ineedescort also can see when the escort was last online
Have a nice week,
Kalin London
Please send me the link bro...Quote:
Originally Posted by SheLoverKVB
Thanks in advance.
Please send me the link to the UK Forum pls thank you
Bedpage took down my paid ad and refunded me more than double what i spent. I placed a new ad, which was “expired” early, and my account balance is magically $0Quote:
Originally Posted by br69ke69
One look at the ads in Hudson valley, and they are ALL FAKE PICS, except for a few older ads from far away locations.
Bedpage sucks
I agree, aside from that I heard they ask for personal information such as an ID! I'm not sure if they are asking it for the client or escort. After Eros getting raided even if it's not US based website I would suggest NOT signing up. Idk why girls would advertise there, even worse if asked for an ID and also it's a semi messy site when it comes to specific cities. Backpage has yet to be fully replaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laphroaig
I can just lol...not at the gals, but at the dudes.
Eros got raided? Aren't they not in the US??
Sex does sell, but that porn in the Betamax vs VHS is pure BS. It was cost vs proprietary format, a lesson that Sony has STILL not learned.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal13
Why would you complain? They refunded you “double what I spent”? You just seem to have that proverbial horseshoe up your @$%. Not only do you get a windfall of a refund but your business has increased since all of the websites sit down. Must be nice.:salad:saladQuote:
Originally Posted by KelliBlueEyes
as i mentioned your site is one of my go to sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkrose2000
i appreciate that reviews are going to be a bone of contention when it comes to a site such as yours - which is why ts4 probably won't post negative ads. i quite like the site, and it will be interesting to see if more girls end up using it (one girl i am interested in has recently posted a whole heap of photos of herself on there - which has just made me even more interested in her), on birchplace i would only be able to see a few of them, i am not sure if there are limits to your site.
if i could ask you to do one thing with your site it would be that once the vip page has loaded that there was an option to just view all the girls who are listed as available.
Bedpage has been taken off lineQuote:
Originally Posted by KelliBlueEyes
Though it has been done in extreme cases , the F.B.I has been known to transfer suspect websites to their own servers before shutting them down. They infect users computers with malware that strips them of their anonymity to show their actual ISP addresses. In essence "Leaving the barn door open" for the cows to come home again. This might also explain why things got weird before Bedpage shut down completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
Very wise IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkrose2000
For reviews, ukpunting which I know many on here don't like, works because there's no chance of influence from advertisers as they aren't allowed and the site is run solely for the benefit of punters.
Adultwork also ask the girls (not punters) for ID and their verification process can be torturous. All done to cover their arse against potential misuse by underage or traffickers. Not much use to punters as once verified, profiles can still easily change hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by johncock0
This thread has got to be one of the funniest and most entertaining threads ever to grace the pages of hungangels.
But I have a question. How many of the complainers here voted for one of the lawmakers that passed fosta/sesta? I know I haven't. But if you have, I guess you got what you paid for. Or should I say, voted for. And you can be sure that there will be more laws just like it. Most of them catering to the religious right. They will be disguised as something else like child protection, some bullshit freedom or some other label . But at the end of the day it will cater to the almighty Lord and savior Jesus Christ. A true deity. Something that never even existed and something that most bow down to at the drop of a hat. Just sayin.
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Originally Posted by gaysian71
Are you sure you didn't vote for someone who passed it? The way it was written, most democrats and republicans voted for it.
I've not voted for a Democrat or a Republican since I was 19. But I have voted every election since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Don't know if the admin will see this but many boards have moved their forums to a server in a country where it is legal. I'm guessing this gets around the US law. i know i dont post much.. but i figured i could maybe help.
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Originally Posted by italianm33ny
It doesn't get around US law.
And I really don't care - as mentioned earlier, it's not my business.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by GroobySteven
Plz pm me the link buddy...
Thanks in advance
Plz pm me the link buddy...Quote:
Originally Posted by SheLoverKVB
Thanks in advance
what about "p.m me for details" threads on here with nothing but photos...??? asking for a friend...
Its still online but its spotty, going down frequently. Also in the F4M section is 99% spam ads. The Tranny section has fewer spam ads but the site isnt taking off very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by flabbybody
**Admin - this is not promoting competition for HA and you allowed discussion earlier in this thread so we'd appreciate it if you would allow this post**
A brief update about the UK escort review forum - trans_escortsuk.forumotion.com - that was setup when HA removed their escort section. This forum was only setup to fill the void and to continue HAs good work.
The site was a great success but is down at the moment whilst the webhost liaises with Rogue (the admin) to verify whether it meets their Ts and Cs. Rogue was already in the process of setting up his own hosting to avoid this problem so in the event of a worst-case scenario, and the forum is closed, can existing members (and interested parties) please email their usernames and email addresses to trans_escortsuk@gmx.com so your account can be setup on the new forum.
Thanks in advance - especially to Steve and the HA admin.
Just tried to log on. Wondered why I couldn't. Damn, we really need a site that provides this service.
That's why Rogue is building a new one (providing he gets enough interest from punters).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrslovefeet