Re: Usama bin Laden is dead
by Falrune
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:08 am
Race is an old concept that should probably be discarded. It was
created by people who had a very limited knowledge of their world. If you
look at any genetic map (mitochondrial or Y chromosome DNA), you can
see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian
race.
Here's a nice map
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
Re: Usama bin Laden is dead
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Originally Posted by
giovanni_hotel
Are you smoking crack?? There's no 'spin' on this one. BHO iced OBL. Something nine years of Bush/Cheney couldn't manage to do.
Already I can hear the arguments, 'killing OBL isn't THAT big a deal.'
Turn on a TV. People have been celebrating in front of the WH since 12AM. The FUCKING STOCK MARKET ticked up with news of OBL's murder!!!
U.S. Navy SEALS put a bullet through Bin Laden's dome and dumped his body at sea.
WIN.
Clinton couldn't do it either.
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Why is natina posting vast swathes of material on race in a thread that I thought was about Osama bin Laden? Way too much to read but shouldn't it be a thread of its own.
Offer us a two or three sentence summary of what this about natina - please?
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Natina/TS Brenda is incapable of offering a two or three sentence summary
Re: Usama bin Laden is dead
According to a former CIA guy interviewed on the BBC today Clinton didn't really want to catch Bin Laden out of concern for US image at the time. Bush couldn't - though they say that the US Government knew about this location four years ago, but the operation to kill him took a long time to plan in detail.
Re: Usama bin Laden is dead
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Originally Posted by
Prospero
According to a former CIA guy interviewed on the BBC today Clinton didn't really want to catch Bin Laden out of concern for US image at the time. Bush couldn't - though they say that the US Government knew about this location four years ago, but the operation to kill him took a long time to plan in detail.
I thought in a Clinton interview with someone from Fox News that he wanted to capture/kill bin Laden. He had intel on bin Laden, but just couldn't do it.
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This neocon tj347 posted this below,thats why
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Originally Posted by
tj347
can someone please explain to me how he is an african american? I've been trying to understand that for years. His mother was a white woman, his father was a black african... You know, i suppose that does make him an african american actually, but if that's the case then we need to find another name for everyone else currently called an african american. I'm just going to call myself a black american from now on so that there's no confusion.
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Originally Posted by
prospero
why is natina posting vast swathes of material on race in a thread that i thought was about osama bin laden? Way too much to read but shouldn't it be a thread of its own.
Offer us a two or three sentence summary of what this about natina - please?
Re: Usama bin Laden is dead
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Originally Posted by
robertlouis
Sadly it isn't. While the presence of large numbers of US and other nato forces in Afghanistan serves two purposes - one to attempt to stabilise a country that has successfully resisted every previous attempt to do so, so good luck with that one, and secondly it means that there are forces available in the region should the situation in Pakistan fall into anarchy or worse. In my view this event potentially changes all the political undertakings to withdraw by 2014.
Walking away now, however emotionally desirable, would be like pouring petrol on the flames
Unfortunately, despite my earlier post, I am aware of that. In fact, it is quite possible that if we had stayed around after semi-covertly helping them push the Soviets out of there, bin Laden and his merry band would never have even existed. I am well aware that we are going to be stuck in the region for the foreseeable future if for no other reason then to prevent a disastrous war between Pakistan and India.
Then again if Mayans are correct, withdrawal by 2014 becomes a moot point.:)
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Originally Posted by
BigDF
Then again if Mayans are correct, withdrawal by 2014 becomes a moot point.:)
The Mayans didn't predict their own demise, so their record as forecasters is shaky to say the least lol.
Re: Usama bin Laden is dead
It is strange this thread has taken on a different tone. From Osama to Politics to Race to future predictions.
Personally, I feel some redemption over his death. Having deployed 4 times (twice to Iraq) it is as if all that hard work is now justified. Actually, I had given up hope he would ever be caught/found. However, I just continued to do my duty because that is what soldiers do.
I am not sure what will become of this. Do I feel safer? I never felt unsafe anyway.
As for politics, my boss is the Commander and Chief, whoever that may be, and my job is to carry out his orders. I have no political leanings, just that the guy in charge do a good job. And I am happy Bin Laden is dead.
Obama will get the credit for this operation for sure, and so he should. He is the one who authorized the operation.
On a humorous note, I too cannot believe that I found out about Bin Laden's death on Hung Angles. To me that is kind of crazy.
Take care all.