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11-10-2009
peggygee

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Peggy is obviously being shady and jealous. I'm not impressed with the bullshit about "research" or helping other trannys. Talk's cheap. She's here because she's a transbian, and she's hoping to impress younger trannys with her pretentious authoritative pose. She obviously regrets srs, and she's not saying anything to prove otherwise.

This is a classic case of ... I'm not sure. But its a classic case of something.

Why don't you just accept people for who they are? Treat others like you would like to be treated. I'm impressed with PeggyGee. And I vow that she would not regret surgery if I got a hold of her. She's at a place that no other woman here has reached. I suggest you wait until you get her age now to criticize her.

Are you serious? She's saying that escorts don't make 200 to 300/hr consistently. That's a lie, and it's pretty shady to boot. So why wouldn't I be offended? FACT: I most assuredly DO make it, and so do lots of girls. She's finding isolated cases in Africa to back that bullshit up? Get real.

Escorting experiences are as unique as the individual doing the job. It's like saying that the food service industry amounts to being a pushcart hotdog vendor, simply because you're not a gourmet chef. Anybody cutting an onion could lose a finger ie. every job has it's occupational hazards. She's saying she did the "sex, drugs, and r'n'r" thing. When? 20 or 30 years ago? Newsflash: it's 2009. I want to know who these sad bitches are that she's referring to. People she knows? Suggestion: get out more. Everything is not as it is in your backyard.

Let me tell you something. I've known PLENTY of transsexuals, of all ages. Many are post ops. All of the older ones were conditioned to believe that getting SRS made you "complete". Most of their vaginas are a few inches deep and have no mucosa. I don't envy them. But I've known PLENTY who envy us. Some are honest enough to say so, but many aren't.

Now, if Peggy was such a hot piece of ass when she was younger, I would love to see a picture. Based on what I have seen, she's not exactly Lena Horne. It's more than easy to come here and copy and paste articles and talk mad smack. But that's certainly not proof of anything, especially when you're a tranny. Getting positive reactions from men is where the proof is; walking down the street and turning heads, getting flirted with, and having men get wood. It won't pay your bills unless you work it. It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted. Don't hate.

Furthermore, this is a HUNG forum. If you're going to chill out here, why talk shit about the industry that pays the light bill?

It sounds like you disagree with Peggy on a specific set of facts. Yet you attack her in general, like saying that she is here for another reason. This takes discussions to another place and everything becomes personal.

But let’s address the issue of escorts. Sure there are some that make $300 an hour. But I would bet for everyone of those there are five like Chanel in New Orleans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nliJU...eature=related
She is open about her life here. She made $100 on Friday, Saturday she was too depressed to work. She admits to having drug problems and is HIV positive. She can’t even get to her clothes and possession cause there at someone’s home she’s having a disagreement with. Her earnings are down, now that she is a little older. She wishes she had put money away when she was earning more. Her and Telaasia, say that they did not know that other possibilities existed in life for trans women, when they were younger. So for them it was about being aware that there are other choices. I believe this represents the view of large numbers of trans women.

PeggyGee has been about empowering trans women to able to make choices. For example, she listed employers who are known to be trans friendly. When I check the Eros listings I see maybe 20-25 listing for the whole state. That does not seem like a lots opportunities to me. It’s not about criticizing the escorts who make that amount of money. It just seem that the life is not for everyone.

I do not question you on the fact there are post op women who regret there surgeries. In some places the law will not grant legal recognition to them as female, unless they have the surgery. There are social pressures to conform. But this does not mean that some are not happy either. Some go for additional surgeries to correct problems. If Peggy says she is happy, I have to respect her words and be happy for her.

Here is the part one for the video about Chanel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_beDjZRkzKM
It is good that there is someone like Telaasia Black to show the lives of these untold stories.

Thank you very much Yodajazz. :wink:

I did wonder how long before the ad hominen attacks wouuld occur from her.

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Now, if Peggy was such a hot piece of ass when she was younger, I would love to see a picture. Based on what I have seen, she's not exactly Lena Horne. It's more than easy to come here and copy and paste articles and talk mad smack.

But that's certainly not proof of anything, especially when you're a tranny. Getting positive reactions from men is where the proof is; walking down the street and turning heads, getting flirted with, and having men get wood. It won't pay your bills unless you work it. It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted. Don't hate.

Most def not hating, and hate to burst your balloon sweety but I do turn
heads, get flirted with, give wood, though I don't identify as a tranny.

And Nicole, talking about looks isn't the best move on your part. :smh

My validation dooes't come from the tranny ghetto, but from the real
world.

As to gettinng my bills paid, they do, by me and my 9 to 5.

By the way Nicole have you finally run out of forums and girls to argue
on and with, and do you plan on doiing this for dozens of threads and
whenever I post.

Cause in my 3+ years on the forums I have seen you get into beef with
just about everyone, from the owners, to the mods, the girls and the
guys.

Won't this take cost you, and take time away from your thriving escort business?

Alas sadly Nicole I may not be a worthy adversary for you as I do not
have the time or inclination to go post to inane post with you, as I have a
life in the real world. :shrug
11-10-2009
lisaparadise

this topic has been nasty since the start,you people need to chill abit.this could have been a great topic but its ruined ,,,,,unreal
11-10-2009
Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

Nicole, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but in my case I am
going to have to say that you are wrong.

Not shady, jealous, regretful of GRS, or the litanty of other allegations
that you have levied.

I will say though that the reason that I made the posts about older escorts
in foreign countries was to show the types of services offered to them by
their respective governments, not to iindict the sex industry.

If I'm right, I wouldn't have actually expected you admit anything. ;) lol

Anyway, you posted your own "facts and figures" based on what you claim to be your own personal experiences. I don't think it's fair to speak about things you have no recent and/or intimate knowledge about and expect people, who do, to not challenge them if they think you're off base. So I suppose we'll just agree to disagree.

But I'm not going to discount the phenomenon of older TS who somewhat regret having SRS and therefore have jealousy issues. You also can't deny that SRS was almost an assumed course of action. Bilateral orchiectomies were basically the rule and not the exception.

Btw, if you don't mind me asking; was your total srs performed with 1 or 2 surgeries? By whom was the surgery performed? And where and when was the surgery performed?
11-10-2009
peggygee

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Let's not compare apples and oranges. I'm going by what she said, and nothing more, The last thing I'd do is say that being post op is not a worthy option. But it's how she's presenting it that I don't like. First, she subscribes to the idea of true and untrue, and that's easily as elitist as making FFS any kind of issue. Second, if she wants to lend a hand to other TS, being sanctimonious is not going to help her cause. She speculating about what escorts make, so I'm speculating why she's speculating. And there's plenty to indicate that her motivation is exactly what I think it is. Again, I know enough post ops who aren't attempting to take the moral high ground that she is. In addition, she doesn't even have anything concrete to base postion on. If she wants to help, imo she's picked a shitty way. I can Google TG employment resources, copy and paste it, and so can anyone. Nice idea, but lets not piss on our sisters' backs and tell them its raining.

Having srs may not be an option for you, that's an individuals' choice, but it is the major option for many transwomen. This site says that there are 30,000 to 40,000 post op women in the US.
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...successes.html
The woman who made this site is a post op who is a computer engineer. She has biographies of numerous successful post op women here.

But I have heard many times stories about girl's lives. Many drop out of high school due to harrasment. Then later they meet a fabuous looking trans woman, who happens to be in sex work. The woman takes tthe youth under her wing, and takes her into 'the life'. This life involves sex work in an athmosphere of drugs and alcohol. They have fun as young pretty things but life changes. They find themselves like Chanel in the video.

Yeah people like PeggyGee and myself do attemp to take the moral high ground. it seems to me that many trans community does not have enough morality. I'm not talking about sex, I'm talking girls hating on one another, picking on people because of their looks, not providing good service in their business, and most ironically of all judging other people because of their sexual tastes.

So while certain people might not be your favorites, maybe some girl out there does need to hear a positive message, or at least about better ways to live. PeggyGee should get props here as being the oldest admitted trans woman.

Yoda, I took a look at Chanel's video, and it was powerful, and feel that
it is a must see.

And you are right about taking a moral high ground. And I like you am
not talking about the ethics and morality of the sex industry, but rather
being positive, doing good for yourself and others.

Nicole, and some may feel that I come from a holier than thou place, that
I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth, and nothing could be further
from the truth. Rather it is because of where I have been and things that
I have done, that I say the things I say.

Some may not approve of my methods, that is unfortunate, but as I have
stated in the past my motives are pure and altrustic. Indeed I would
encourage those who allege that I am shady to pick up the gauntlet, to
not always be being catty to one another, always enagaging in in-fighting,
and to remember that if they are not part of the solution, then they truly
are part of the problem.

Easy to say Peggy ain't this, she ain't that, she think her shit don't stink,
but it's much harder to try and help another girl unknownst to yourself.

So perhaps the question isn't what has Peggy done for the community,
but rather what have you done or are doing for it.
11-10-2009
Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Peggy is obviously being shady and jealous. I'm not impressed with the bullshit about "research" or helping other trannys. Talk's cheap. She's here because she's a transbian, and she's hoping to impress younger trannys with her pretentious authoritative pose. She obviously regrets srs, and she's not saying anything to prove otherwise.

This is a classic case of ... I'm not sure. But its a classic case of something.

Why don't you just accept people for who they are? Treat others like you would like to be treated. I'm impressed with PeggyGee. And I vow that she would not regret surgery if I got a hold of her. She's at a place that no other woman here has reached. I suggest you wait until you get her age now to criticize her.

Are you serious? She's saying that escorts don't make 200 to 300/hr consistently. That's a lie, and it's pretty shady to boot. So why wouldn't I be offended? FACT: I most assuredly DO make it, and so do lots of girls. She's finding isolated cases in Africa to back that bullshit up? Get real.

Escorting experiences are as unique as the individual doing the job. It's like saying that the food service industry amounts to being a pushcart hotdog vendor, simply because you're not a gourmet chef. Anybody cutting an onion could lose a finger ie. every job has it's occupational hazards. She's saying she did the "sex, drugs, and r'n'r" thing. When? 20 or 30 years ago? Newsflash: it's 2009. I want to know who these sad bitches are that she's referring to. People she knows? Suggestion: get out more. Everything is not as it is in your backyard.

Let me tell you something. I've known PLENTY of transsexuals, of all ages. Many are post ops. All of the older ones were conditioned to believe that getting SRS made you "complete". Most of their vaginas are a few inches deep and have no mucosa. I don't envy them. But I've known PLENTY who envy us. Some are honest enough to say so, but many aren't.

Now, if Peggy was such a hot piece of ass when she was younger, I would love to see a picture. Based on what I have seen, she's not exactly Lena Horne. It's more than easy to come here and copy and paste articles and talk mad smack. But that's certainly not proof of anything, especially when you're a tranny. Getting positive reactions from men is where the proof is; walking down the street and turning heads, getting flirted with, and having men get wood. It won't pay your bills unless you work it. It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted. Don't hate.

Furthermore, this is a HUNG forum. If you're going to chill out here, why talk shit about the industry that pays the light bill?

It sounds like you disagree with Peggy on a specific set of facts. Yet you attack her in general, like saying that she is here for another reason. This takes discussions to another place and everything becomes personal.

But let’s address the issue of escorts. Sure there are some that make $300 an hour. But I would bet for everyone of those there are five like Chanel in New Orleans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nliJU...eature=related
She is open about her life here. She made $100 on Friday, Saturday she was too depressed to work. She admits to having drug problems and is HIV positive. She can’t even get to her clothes and possession cause there at someone’s home she’s having a disagreement with. Her earnings are down, now that she is a little older. She wishes she had put money away when she was earning more. Her and Telaasia, say that they did not know that other possibilities existed in life for trans women, when they were younger. So for them it was about being aware that there are other choices. I believe this represents the view of large numbers of trans women.

PeggyGee has been about empowering trans women to able to make choices. For example, she listed employers who are known to be trans friendly. When I check the Eros listings I see maybe 20-25 listing for the whole state. That does not seem like a lots opportunities to me. It’s not about criticizing the escorts who make that amount of money. It just seem that the life is not for everyone.

I do not question you on the fact there are post op women who regret there surgeries. In some places the law will not grant legal recognition to them as female, unless they have the surgery. There are social pressures to conform. But this does not mean that some are not happy either. Some go for additional surgeries to correct problems. If Peggy says she is happy, I have to respect her words and be happy for her.

Here is the part one for the video about Chanel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_beDjZRkzKM
It is good that there is someone like Telaasia Black to show the lives of these untold stories.

Thank you very much Yodajazz. :wink:

I did wonder how long before the ad hominen attacks wouuld occur from her.

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Now, if Peggy was such a hot piece of ass when she was younger, I would love to see a picture. Based on what I have seen, she's not exactly Lena Horne. It's more than easy to come here and copy and paste articles and talk mad smack.

But that's certainly not proof of anything, especially when you're a tranny. Getting positive reactions from men is where the proof is; walking down the street and turning heads, getting flirted with, and having men get wood. It won't pay your bills unless you work it. It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted. Don't hate.

Most def not hating, and hate to burst your balloon sweety but I do turn
heads, get flirted with, give wood, though I don't identify as a tranny.

And Nicole, talking about looks isn't the best move on your part. :smh

My validation dooes't come from the tranny ghetto, but from the real
world.

As to gettinng my bills paid, they do, by me and my 9 to 5.

By the way Nicole have you finally run out of forums and girls to argue
on and with, and do you plan on doiing this for dozens of threads and
whenever I post.

Cause in my 3+ years on the forums I have seen you get into beef with
just about everyone, from the owners, to the mods, the girls and the
guys.

Won't this take cost you, and take time away from your thriving escort business?

Alas sadly Nicole I may not be a worthy adversary for you as I do not
have the time or inclination to go post to inane post with you, as I have a
life in the real world. :shrug

The fact alone that you couldn't come back and easily prove me wrong with some stats speaks volumes. But like I sad, you're pulling your info out of your ass and it's not cute.

And if you can't take the the heat, stay out of the kitchen. But don't play the victim. I'd love for you to prove me wrong. Do you think I get my jollies from making escorting look like a glamorous profession? All I asked for was a little substantiated accuracy. Don't have a cow.

Oh, and you're not shady? Drop the TS Mother Teresa bullshit. FYI I'm not interested in whether or not I'm pushing the sexual buttons for a bisexual granny tranny. So, by all means, get "kicking it" elsewhere. I've seen pics of that mug. P.S. My picture is up, and yours isn't. You do the math.

Btw, I have time do do a number of things I feel like doing, so don't hate. lol
11-10-2009
peggygee

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

Nicole, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but in my case I am
going to have to say that you are wrong.

Not shady, jealous, regretful of GRS, or the litanty of other allegations
that you have levied.

I will say though that the reason that I made the posts about older escorts
in foreign countries was to show the types of services offered to them by
their respective governments, not to iindict the sex industry.

If I'm right, I wouldn't have actually expected you admit anything. ;) lol

Anyway, you posted your own "facts and figures" based on what you claim to be your own personal experiences. I don't think it's fair to speak about things you have no recent and/or intimate knowledge about and expect people, who do, to not challenge them if they think you're off base. So I suppose we'll just agree to disagree.

But I'm not going to discount the phenomenon of older TS who somewhat regret having SRS and therefore have jealousy issues. You also can't deny that SRS was almost an assumed course of action. Bilateral orchiectomies were basically the rule and not the exception.

Btw, if you don't mind me asking; was your total srs performed with 1 or 2 surgeries? By whom was the surgery performed? And where and when was the surgery performed?

Girl you must think I live in a iron lung, in a fortified prison, on a desert
island, and that I'm trapped in 1979, trust me I am very aware of what
is going on in "the life."

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Btw, if you don't mind me asking; was your total srs performed with 1 or 2 surgeries? By whom was the surgery performed? And where and when was the surgery performed?

My surgery was performed 12 years ago, by Dr. Preecha the "Godfather
of GRS", in Thailand, and I have subsequently had labiaplasty.
11-10-2009
Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

Girl you must think I live in a iron lung, in a fortified prison, on a desert
island, and that I'm trapped in 1979, trust me I am very aware of what
is going on in "the life."

If you say so.
11-10-2009
peggygee

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by yodajazz

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Peggy is obviously being shady and jealous. I'm not impressed with the bullshit about "research" or helping other trannys. Talk's cheap. She's here because she's a transbian, and she's hoping to impress younger trannys with her pretentious authoritative pose. She obviously regrets srs, and she's not saying anything to prove otherwise.

This is a classic case of ... I'm not sure. But its a classic case of something.

Why don't you just accept people for who they are? Treat others like you would like to be treated. I'm impressed with PeggyGee. And I vow that she would not regret surgery if I got a hold of her. She's at a place that no other woman here has reached. I suggest you wait until you get her age now to criticize her.

Are you serious? She's saying that escorts don't make 200 to 300/hr consistently. That's a lie, and it's pretty shady to boot. So why wouldn't I be offended? FACT: I most assuredly DO make it, and so do lots of girls. She's finding isolated cases in Africa to back that bullshit up? Get real.

Escorting experiences are as unique as the individual doing the job. It's like saying that the food service industry amounts to being a pushcart hotdog vendor, simply because you're not a gourmet chef. Anybody cutting an onion could lose a finger ie. every job has it's occupational hazards. She's saying she did the "sex, drugs, and r'n'r" thing. When? 20 or 30 years ago? Newsflash: it's 2009. I want to know who these sad bitches are that she's referring to. People she knows? Suggestion: get out more. Everything is not as it is in your backyard.

Let me tell you something. I've known PLENTY of transsexuals, of all ages. Many are post ops. All of the older ones were conditioned to believe that getting SRS made you "complete". Most of their vaginas are a few inches deep and have no mucosa. I don't envy them. But I've known PLENTY who envy us. Some are honest enough to say so, but many aren't.

Now, if Peggy was such a hot piece of ass when she was younger, I would love to see a picture. Based on what I have seen, she's not exactly Lena Horne. It's more than easy to come here and copy and paste articles and talk mad smack. But that's certainly not proof of anything, especially when you're a tranny. Getting positive reactions from men is where the proof is; walking down the street and turning heads, getting flirted with, and having men get wood. It won't pay your bills unless you work it. It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted. Don't hate.

Furthermore, this is a HUNG forum. If you're going to chill out here, why talk shit about the industry that pays the light bill?

It sounds like you disagree with Peggy on a specific set of facts. Yet you attack her in general, like saying that she is here for another reason. This takes discussions to another place and everything becomes personal.

But let’s address the issue of escorts. Sure there are some that make $300 an hour. But I would bet for everyone of those there are five like Chanel in New Orleans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nliJU...eature=related
She is open about her life here. She made $100 on Friday, Saturday she was too depressed to work. She admits to having drug problems and is HIV positive. She can’t even get to her clothes and possession cause there at someone’s home she’s having a disagreement with. Her earnings are down, now that she is a little older. She wishes she had put money away when she was earning more. Her and Telaasia, say that they did not know that other possibilities existed in life for trans women, when they were younger. So for them it was about being aware that there are other choices. I believe this represents the view of large numbers of trans women.

PeggyGee has been about empowering trans women to able to make choices. For example, she listed employers who are known to be trans friendly. When I check the Eros listings I see maybe 20-25 listing for the whole state. That does not seem like a lots opportunities to me. It’s not about criticizing the escorts who make that amount of money. It just seem that the life is not for everyone.

I do not question you on the fact there are post op women who regret there surgeries. In some places the law will not grant legal recognition to them as female, unless they have the surgery. There are social pressures to conform. But this does not mean that some are not happy either. Some go for additional surgeries to correct problems. If Peggy says she is happy, I have to respect her words and be happy for her.

Here is the part one for the video about Chanel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_beDjZRkzKM
It is good that there is someone like Telaasia Black to show the lives of these untold stories.

Thank you very much Yodajazz. :wink:

I did wonder how long before the ad hominen attacks wouuld occur from her.

Quote:

Now, if Peggy was such a hot piece of ass when she was younger, I would love to see a picture. Based on what I have seen, she's not exactly Lena Horne. It's more than easy to come here and copy and paste articles and talk mad smack.

But that's certainly not proof of anything, especially when you're a tranny. Getting positive reactions from men is where the proof is; walking down the street and turning heads, getting flirted with, and having men get wood. It won't pay your bills unless you work it. It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted. Don't hate.

Most def not hating, and hate to burst your balloon sweety but I do turn
heads, get flirted with, give wood, though I don't identify as a tranny.

And Nicole, talking about looks isn't the best move on your part. :smh

My validation dooes't come from the tranny ghetto, but from the real
world.

As to gettinng my bills paid, they do, by me and my 9 to 5.

By the way Nicole have you finally run out of forums and girls to argue
on and with, and do you plan on doiing this for dozens of threads and
whenever I post.

Cause in my 3+ years on the forums I have seen you get into beef with
just about everyone, from the owners, to the mods, the girls and the
guys.

Won't this take cost you, and take time away from your thriving escort business?

Alas sadly Nicole I may not be a worthy adversary for you as I do not
have the time or inclination to go post to inane post with you, as I have a
life in the real world. :shrug

The fact alone that you couldn't come back and easily prove me wrong with some stats speaks volumes. But like I sad, you're pulling your info out of your ass and it's not cute.

And if you can't take the the heat, stay out of the kitchen. But don't play the victim. I'd love for you to prove me wrong. Do you think I get my jollies from making escorting look like a glamorous profession? All I asked for was a little substantiated accuracy. Don't have a cow.

Oh, and you're not shady? Drop the TS Mother Teresa bullshit. FYI I'm not interested in whether or not I'm pushing the sexual buttons for a bisexual granny tranny. So, by all means, get "kicking it" elsewhere. I've seen pics of that mug. P.S. My picture is up, and yours isn't. You do the math.

Btw, I have time do do a number of things I feel like doing, so don't hate. lol

Granny, not quite, and there's no shame for me that I like women
somewhat, but prefer men.

I have had my photo up before, however for the job that I'm in now that
would be problematic. And contrary to what you might have inferred I
don't work in human services, or with trans issues, and for a variety of
reasons I needed to go back to being more stealth, particularly on a porn
forum.

But don't try and imply a fugly, old brick image of me, which is far from
accurate, cause as I said, you really don't want to go there.

The prudent course of action is to stick to the topics at hand.
11-11-2009
SarahG

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Originally Posted by Nicole Dupre

Are you serious? She's saying that escorts don't make 200 to 300/hr consistently. That's a lie, and it's pretty shady to boot.

Certainly it would be easy for attractive girls in their prime to make that kind of money, or better. But like you said, it's all about the individual. An older lady who hasn't aged well isn't going to be able to bring in that kind of money as easily, and if she has nothing to fall back on (no retirement, no education, no other work experience) her options might not be that good.

Unless things are very different for trans escorting, with GG's I would not expect many girls to make 200-300/hr into their mid to late 50s onward, and if they do, I would be surprised if they were still booking as many sessions as they did a decade or two earlier. After all, isn't youthfulness one of the standards of beauty in our society?

I think that's the bigger issue here. It isn't "shade" to mention that people usually can't rely on escorting for being their ONLY source of employment, for their entire lives. Having a retirement fund, education, health insurance, some other work experience- that's not elitism, that's just reality. Basic things like health insurance and a retirement income are things that everyone needs. Anyone in escorting should care about them, just as anyone else who is self employed does.

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It may not be healthy validation, but it beats being old and unwanted.

Sure, why do you think so many girls in our society become grumpy in their old age, or become attracted to feminism when previously they didn't care for it? The way I've heard older girls describe being old is, in our society, it's like becoming invisible. People don't take you as seriously, people are less likely to interact with you, less likely to care about you the way they used to. Throw in how girls live longer and usually end up living a decade or more alone after their husband dies (assuming he hadn't left her for a younger girl by that point anyway)- growing old sucks. It's also a fate for everyone who doesn't die along the way from something else (be it murder, suicide, aids, car accidents, or anything else life can throw at people). But some of this conversation is somewhat offtopic, I don't believe anyone on HA is old enough to be retired (??).
11-11-2009
Nicole Dupre

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Originally Posted by peggygee

Granny, not quite, and there's no shame for me that I like women
somewhat, but prefer men.

I have had my photo up before, however for the job that I'm in now that
would be problematic. And contrary to what you might have inferred I
don't work in human services, or with trans issues, and for a variety of
reasons I needed to go back to being more stealth, particularly on a porn
forum.

But don't try and imply a fugly, old brick image of me, which is far from
accurate, cause as I said, you really don't want to go there.

The prudent course of action is to stick to the topics at hand.

Really now? Why don't I want to "go there"? You'll read me? Well please do, grandma. Bring all the bluffs you've got to the table, and we'll see where it takes you. lol

And "excuses, excuses" about your sacred anonymity. You've posted pics here before, so stop lying. I didn't call you a "fugly, old brick". Those are your words, not mine. ;) You're the one playing the tough old sexchange here. Again, "if you can't stand the heat', copy and paste something and kindly stfu. "The prudent course of action" was to not talk out of you ass in the first place, but I think it's a little too late.

But let's just say, I've seen your pics and that I think you've... 'passed your expiration date'. lol That shit about how the younger girls are bumping the older ones is a case of you "going there" first anyway. So don't get all insecure on me now. You've accidentally blurted out some shade, so get it off your chest. I'm not sweating you. ;)

Anyway, I thought you have better shit to do than "argue" with me? ;) lol

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